On 08/03/2012 06:09 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
While it's technically true to call such distros
"GNU/Linux", such a label ignores a large portion of the origin and
richness of those distros.
I don't think that's true. Linux is the kernel. GNU/Linux is the
(POSIX) operating system. Fedora is the
> work with the Program" and I was just speaking about what I heard and
> read about "delisenced kernel headers" in android.
Which is rubbish - beware of junk spouted by PR people involved in
lawsuits. The are paid to dissemble, deceived and damage.
> unfortunately I disagree with you, there migh
I must confess that I really am much less informed than you about the
matter, I didn't know about "Mere aggregation of another independent
work with the Program" and I was just speaking about what I heard and
read about "delisenced kernel headers" in android.
> Free software is a good thirty years
> Suggested naming convention was invented by pioneers of Free Software
> to show the role of GNU and free software philosophy in creation of a
> free community-based "Operating System". they want to show OS (not
> kernel) as a representer of Free Software.
Free software is a good thirty years old
> However, a significant portion of the development of gcc and glibc
> (among many other GNU projects) over the last 20 years has come from the
> Linux community. Without Linux, gcc and glibc would be very different
> than they are today. Does that mean they should be renamed to Linux/GNU
> CC an
Once upon a time, Shibi said:
> in my opinion Linux couldn't and still cannot exist without certain
> parts of gnu project including software and licenses, especially gcc,
> glibc
However, a significant portion of the development of gcc and glibc
(among many other GNU projects) over the last 20 y
Why GNU/Linux? Why not GNU Linux // GNU && Linux // GNU-Linux etc?
GNU/Linux implies either GNU or Linux, right?
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 13:13:59 +0100
Subject: Re: Linux or GNU/Linux
From: discordia...@gmail.com
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
I call it Linux/Gnu.
Without the k
> in my opinion Linux couldn't and still cannot exist without certain
> parts of gnu project including software and licenses, especially gcc,
> glibc, gpl and lgpl. and that's true for android too, unless it uses
> kernel header's without gpl licensing instead of glibc.
At the time Linux was creat
Why GNU/Linux? Why not GNU Linux // GNU && Linux // GNU-Linux etc?
GNU/Linux implies either GNU or Linux, right?
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 13:13:59 +0100
Subject: Re: Linux or GNU/Linux
From: discordia...@gmail.com
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
I call it Linux/Gnu.
Without the k
I call it Linux/Gnu.
Without the kernel it wouldn't even boot.
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On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 14:36 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> In some cases - by code volume the FSF is not the biggest contributor,
> even when you include (as they like to) all the third party code they
> took and labelled GNU. In the case of the largest and most common
> Linux
> distribution today there
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 5:39 AM, DJ Delorie wrote:
> While it's technically true to call such distros
> "GNU/Linux", such a label ignores a large portion of the origin and
> richness of those distros. It would be like calling the USA "the
> country that contains Boston."
>
> Also, outside of mys
This is all IMHO...
Linux is the kernel.
GNU is a project to create a Free operating system, which has created
such components as glibc, gcc, emacs, gdb, etc.
GNU/Linux is a combination of the two - any Linux-based operating system
that uses the GNU components.
There are other GNU-based operat
> However, the kernel was far less successful. Despite the claims
> of "superior architecture", Hurd has never caught on; almost every
> implementation you'll run into (I'd say 'every', but someone would come
> up with John Drutin's Distro as a counter-example) uses the Linux kernel
> and GNU libr
Once, long ago--actually, on Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 09:05:51PM -0700--Gordon
Messmer (yiny...@eburg.com) said:
> That's a load of hooey. GNU the project provides a collection of
> Free Software, but GNU the operating system existed before Linux.
> The goal was an implementation of the POSIX operati
On 3 August 2012 12:29, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Gordon Messmer wrote:
>
> > GNU the project provides a collection of Free
> > Software, but GNU the operating system existed before Linux.
>
> Did you run this operating system?
>
Although I hate people calling Linux "GNU/Linux"... See the history o
Gordon Messmer wrote:
> GNU the project provides a collection of Free
> Software, but GNU the operating system existed before Linux.
Did you run this operating system?
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On 08/03/2012 11:29 AM, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus wrote:
Well I think the doubt in fact is about the correct way for call this
Operating System (OS). I think the political correct way for it must
be gnu/linux because historically it was the way as this OS was
completed and worked. We are
Well I think the doubt in fact is about the correct way for call this
Operating System (OS). I think the political correct way for it must be
gnu/linux because historically it was the way as this OS was completed and
worked. We are talking about the firsts years of the 90's. Nowadays this OS
family
On 07/29/2012 10:31 PM, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
GNU is a software collection project founded by Richard Stallman that
provides open source versions of a who lot of programs that work with
the Linux (and other) kernel environment.
The GNU folks, not having a successfully popular kernel component,
On 30 July 2012 15:48, Chris Tyler wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-07-29 at 23:53 -0700, John Wendel wrote:
> "Linux" is shorthand. "GNU/Linux" is still shorthand. I personally run
> GNU/Linux/Xorg/Apache/BSD/LibreOffice/MySQL/Mozilla, but don't usually
> refer to it that way, and that's still an abbrevia
On Sun, 2012-07-29 at 23:53 -0700, John Wendel wrote:
> On 07/29/2012 10:09 PM, Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Just thought about asking you guys what the actual name is, Linux or
> > GNU/Linux (In our Bangladeshi community, we're really divided on
> > this issue).
> >
>
On 07/30/2012 06:09 AM, Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote:
> Just thought about asking you guys what the actual name is, Linux or
> GNU/Linux (In our Bangladeshi community, we're really divided on this
> issue).
>
> I personally prefer Linux , what do you think?
If you haven't done so already, I th
On Mon, 2012-07-30 at 10:50 +0100, Phil Dobbin wrote:
> Interesting, I've never come across such a beast. Could you supply a URL
> to one that you'd recommend as I'd be fascinated to check one out?
Embedded systems may use considerably less GNU bits than we're used to
in a general purpose distribu
2012-07-30 11:50 keltezéssel, Phil Dobbin írta:
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On 07/29/2012 10:09 PM, Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote:
Hello all,
Just thought about asking you guys what the actual name is, Linux or
GNU/Linux (In our Bangladeshi community, we'r
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> On 07/29/2012 10:09 PM, Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Just thought about asking you guys what the actual name is, Linux or
>> GNU/Linux (In our Bangladeshi community, we're really divided on this
>> issue).
>>
On 07/29/2012 10:09 PM, Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote:
Hello all,
Just thought about asking you guys what the actual name is, Linux or
GNU/Linux (In our Bangladeshi community, we're really divided on this
issue).
I personally prefer Linux , what do you think?
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On 30.07.2012 07:09, Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote:
>
> I personally prefer Linux , what do you think?
>
>
Please, don't tell this to Richard Stallman.
Mateusz Marzantowicz
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On 07/30/2012 01:09 PM, Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote:
> Just thought about asking you guys what the actual name is, Linux or
> GNU/Linux (In our Bangladeshi community, we're really divided on this issue).
>
> I personally prefer Linux , what do you think?
By this question, I assume you are asking
On 07/30/2012 01:09 AM, Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote:
Hello all,
Just thought about asking you guys what the actual name is, Linux or
GNU/Linux (In our Bangladeshi community, we're really divided on this
issue).
I personally prefer Linux , what do you think?
It is a political/religious issu
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