On 20.01.2014 18:36, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> Not only does it not work but it appears I am creating something I don't
> want, a log-in GUI? I normally use a text screen and startxfce4.
$ yum info cdm
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On 01/20/2014 09:36 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
It looks like I have to tell systemd somehow to run lightdm?
If you're not using gdm, remove it. Even if you're not running Gnome,
it tries to take over sometimes, no matter what you tell your system.
Once it's gone, lightdm ma
On 20/01/14 11:24, Tim wrote:
General purpose solution: Copy the text, open a text editor in the same
session, paste into it, save the file. Now you have the text saved as a
file, rather than just sitting in a copy buffer.
Yes, that was my first try, the session appeared to crash dumping me
b
Allegedly, on or about 20 January 2014, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia,
USA sent:
> Is there a scheme for copy/paste between the two sessions that I don't
> know about. My typing is error prone and I would really like to copy
> and paste this.
General purpose solution: Copy the text, open a text e
On 20.01.2014 14:22, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
>
> On 19/01/14 19:07, poma wrote:
>> 1. Start point - Xfce session
>> Open the 'xfce4-terminal', log in as root and run this command:
>> # yum install xorg-x11-apps netpbm-progs
>>
>> 2. Log out Xfce session
>>
>> 3. Switch to
On 19/01/14 19:07, poma wrote:
1. Start point - Xfce session
Open the 'xfce4-terminal', log in as root and run this command:
# yum install xorg-x11-apps netpbm-progs
2. Log out Xfce session
3. Switch to 'tty2' - press CTRL+ALT+F2, log in as root and run this
command:
# chvt 1; slee
On 19/01/14 16:55, Joe Zeff wrote:
No, it's not running. That line shows that when the command was run,
grep was running with lightdm as its search string. Try running this,
as yourself:
systemctl status lightdm.service
and see if the service is active.
You are right Joe, it is dead!
On 20.01.2014 00:11, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> I suspected that. I've had enough for today, dinner time here. Tomorrow
> is another day for playing with computers.
1. Start point - Xfce session
Open the 'xfce4-terminal', log in as root and run this command:
# yum install x
On 19/01/14 18:03, Joe Zeff wrote:
Is it working properly?
No. One of the programs listed by ps was grep, looking for lightdm.
Here's what you'd see if you had it running, as I do:
I suspected that. I've had enough for today, dinner time here. Tomorrow
is another day for playing with co
On 01/19/2014 02:49 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
Still does not show lightdm? But ps does?
[bobg@box10 ~]$ ps aux | grep lightdm
bobg 3487 0.0 0.0 112664 900 pts/0S+ 17:45 0:00 grep
--color=auto lightdm
Is it working properly?
No. One of the programs listed
On 19/01/14 16:48, poma wrote:
On 19.01.2014 22:34, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
This is all I get. How do I get lightdm to run?
[bobg@box10 ~]$ loginctl
SESSIONUID USER SEAT
1 1000 bobg seat0
# systemctl isolate multi-user.t
On 19.01.2014 22:31, Joe Zeff wrote:
> ps aux | grep lightdm
>
> If you get more than one line of output (showing grep) it's running.
$ ps axu | grep [l]ightdm
to exclude a grep-ish output. ;)
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On 01/19/2014 01:38 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
On 19/01/14 16:31, Joe Zeff wrote:
ps aux | grep lightdm
[bobg@box10 ~]$ ps aux | grep lightdm
bobg 4582 0.0 0.0 112664 900 pts/0S+ 16:35 0:00 grep
--color=auto lightdm
I guess it is running but did not show u
On 19.01.2014 22:34, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> This is all I get. How do I get lightdm to run?
>
> [bobg@box10 ~]$ loginctl
> SESSIONUID USER SEAT
> 1 1000 bobg seat0
# systemctl isolate multi-user.target
# ln -sf /usr/lib/sy
On 19/01/14 16:31, Joe Zeff wrote:
ps aux | grep lightdm
[bobg@box10 ~]$ ps aux | grep lightdm
bobg 4582 0.0 0.0 112664 900 pts/0S+ 16:35 0:00 grep
--color=auto lightdm
I guess it is running but did not show up with loginctl? I'm getting in
over my head ...
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On 19/01/14 16:29, poma wrote:
On 19.01.2014 22:22, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
How do I determine if lightdm is running?
It appears to be installed ...
$ loginctl
SESSIONUID USER SEAT
c1986 lightdm seat0
2 1000 p
On 01/19/2014 01:22 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
On 19/01/14 14:32, poma wrote:
LightDM/Xfce?
Save the file
'50-org.freedesktop.login1.power-off-multiple-sessions.rules' in the
attachment to a dir '/etc/polkit-1/rules.d'.
Create a group 'poweroff'
# groupadd yumex
Add your us
On 19.01.2014 22:22, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> How do I determine if lightdm is running?
>
> It appears to be installed ...
$ loginctl
SESSIONUID USER SEAT
c1986 lightdm seat0
2 1000 poma seat0
2 session
On 19/01/14 14:32, poma wrote:
LightDM/Xfce?
Save the file
'50-org.freedesktop.login1.power-off-multiple-sessions.rules' in the
attachment to a dir '/etc/polkit-1/rules.d'.
Create a group 'poweroff'
# groupadd yumex
Add your username to this group
# gpasswd -a poweroff
Re-log-in.
How do I
On 19.01.2014 21:04, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> [bobg@box10 ~]$ w
> 14:32:04 up 37 min, 3 users, load average: 0.14, 0.13, 0.13
> USER TTYLOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT
> bobg tty1 13:55 30:28 0.12s 0.01s xinit /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc
> bobg pts/0
On 01/19/2014 09:16 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 01/19/2014 09:07 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new,
I've used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long time and never had
this requirement. I am the sole user of th
On 19/01/14 14:14, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 14:11:01 -0500
"Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote:
My interest in correcting this is waning, I have other stuff I can do
to amuse myself this afternoon.
Thanks much for your patience,
Bob
No problem:
Another test
open a ter
On 19.01.2014 15:07, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
>
> Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new, I've
> used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long time and never had this
> requirement. I am the sole user of this computer and see it as an
> annoyance, more so
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 14:11:01 -0500
"Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote:
> My interest in correcting this is waning, I have other stuff I can do
> to amuse myself this afternoon.
>
> Thanks much for your patience,
>
> Bob
>
No problem:
Another test
open a terminal type in "w".
it will te
On 19/01/14 13:45, Frank Murphy wrote:
between *** is the one line for me for these twon lines
line 1
***
if (action.id == "org.freedesktop.login1.power-off-multiple-sessions"
||
***
line 2
***
action.id == "org.freedesktop.login1.reboot-multiple-sessions") {
***
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On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 13:39:10 -0500
"Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote:
/etc/polkit-1/rules.d/00-no-reboot-password.rules
>
> /* Allow shutdown when others are logged in */
> polkit.addRule(function(action, subject) {
> if (action.id ==
> "org.freedesktop.login1.power-off-multiple
On 19/01/14 13:31, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 13:12:00 -0500
"Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote:
I believe the permissions are ok too? It only needs to be read?
Bob
-rw--r--r--. 1 root root 285 Sep 4
17:04 /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/00-no-reboot-password.rules
You may n
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 13:12:00 -0500
"Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote:
> I believe the permissions are ok too? It only needs to be read?
>
> Bob
>
>
>
-rw--r--r--. 1 root root 285 Sep 4
17:04 /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/00-no-reboot-password.rules
You may need to reload polkit or reboot f
On 19/01/14 12:49, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 11:42:59 -0600
g wrote:
another thought, are you trying to run 'shutdown' from a terminal
or is it within xfce?
if while in xfce, could be way xfce is working.
It is a known random problem, not everyone will get it.
Been there don
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 11:42:59 -0600
g wrote:
> another thought, are you trying to run 'shutdown' from a terminal
> or is it within xfce?
>
> if while in xfce, could be way xfce is working.
>
It is a known random problem, not everyone will get it.
Been there done that. Also on Xfce.
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On 01/19/2014 11:07 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
On 19/01/14 11:56, g wrote:
[bobg@box10 ~]$ ll /sbin/shutdown
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 16 Dec 18 12:01 /sbin/shutdown ->
../bin/systemctl
interesting. it is 'world' writeable.
what does /bin/systemctl look like?
g
[bobg@box
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 12:11:08 -0500
"Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote:
> [bobg@box10 ~]$ locate ConsoleKit
>
> [bobg@box10 ~]$ locate *onsoleKit*
>
> Apparently not?
>
That's good, it can also cause problems,
and no longer required as systemd took over most of the duties.
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On 19/01/14 11:56, Frank Murphy wrote:
By any chance do you have ConsoleKit installed?
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[bobg@box10 ~]$ ConsoleKit
bash: ConsoleKit: command not found
[bobg@box10 ~]$ locate ConsoleKit
[bobg@box10 ~]$ locate *onsoleKit*
Apparently not?
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On 19/01/14 11:56, g wrote:
[bobg@box10 ~]$ ll /sbin/shutdown
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 16 Dec 18 12:01 /sbin/shutdown ->
../bin/systemctl
interesting. it is 'world' writeable.
what does /bin/systemctl look like?
g
[bobg@box10 ~]$ ll /bin/systemctl
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 357760 Dec 5 17:
On 01/19/2014 10:42 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
<>
[bobg@box10 ~]$ ll /sbin/shutdown
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 16 Dec 18 12:01 /sbin/shutdown -> ../bin/systemctl
interesting. it is 'world' writeable.
what does /bin/systemctl look like?
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On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 09:07:14 -0500
"Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote:
>
> Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new,
> I've used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long time and never had
> this requirement. I am the sole user of this computer and see it as
> an anno
On 19/01/14 11:39, Greg Woods wrote:
Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown.
My F19 also does this, but only if I have logged in on one of the
consoles (e.g. CTRL-ALT-F2) as well as through the GUI. Then I get some
verbiage about password being required when other users are logged in.
But it
On 19/01/14 11:18, g wrote:
hi bob,
On 01/19/2014 08:07 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new, I've
used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long time and never had this
requirement. I am the sole user of this computer and
On Sun, 2014-01-19 at 09:07 -0500, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
wrote:
> Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown.
My F19 also does this, but only if I have logged in on one of the
consoles (e.g. CTRL-ALT-F2) as well as through the GUI. Then I get some
verbiage about password being required
hi bob,
On 01/19/2014 08:07 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new, I've
used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long time and never had this
requirement. I am the sole user of this computer and see it as an
annoyance, more s
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 11:00:40 -0500
"Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote:
> Ok Frank, I'll save that for use if nothing better comes along ...
>
> Thank you,
>
> Bob
>
It only ever happened to one of my boxes.
The others were fine.
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On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 09:07:14 -0500
"Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote:
found one from the users list. but the problems started going back as
far as 2012 in bz's
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-September/440457.html
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Foud one f
On 19/01/14 10:54, Frank Murphy wrote:
That was the solution that was given when in happened to some of us,
when F20 was still rawhide.
Check the test-list archives for maybe
12-18mths back.
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Ok Frank, I'll save that for use if nothing better comes along .
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 10:50:57 -0500
"Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote:
> >
> I could try that [I'm afraid line-wrap may have caused problems] but
> why would I have to add anything to a system that I think ought to
> "just work?"
>
> This has not been a problem in the past and I see no o
On 19/01/14 10:37, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 09:07:14 -0500
"Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote:
Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new,
I've used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long time and never had
this requirement. I am the sole user of thi
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 09:07:14 -0500
"Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote:
>
> Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new,
> I've used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long time and never had
> this requirement. I am the sole user of this computer and see it as
> an anno
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 10:06:12 -0500 "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA"
wrote:
>
> On 19/01/14 10:01, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > Does the command
> >
> > poweroff
> >
> > also require a password now? I only reboot (or hibernate also, for my
> > laptop) so I have not done either for
On 19/01/14 10:01, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
Hi Bob,
Does the command
poweroff
also require a password now? I only reboot (or hibernate also, for my
laptop) so I have not done either for a long long time.
Ranjan
[bobg@box10 ~]$ poweroff
Failed to issue method call: Did not receive a reply. Pos
On 01/19/2014 09:57 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
On 19/01/14 09:16, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 01/19/2014 09:07 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new,
I've used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 09:16:31 -0500 "Eddie G. O'Connor Jr."
wrote:
> On 01/19/2014 09:07 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> >
> > Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new, I've
> > used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long time and never had this
> > requirem
On 19/01/14 09:16, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 01/19/2014 09:07 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new,
I've used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long time and never had
this requirement. I am the sole user of this c
On 01/19/2014 09:07 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new, I've
used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long time and never had this
requirement. I am the sole user of this computer and see it as an
annoyance, more so when
Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new, I've
used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long time and never had this
requirement. I am the sole user of this computer and see it as an
annoyance, more so when rebooting than for shutting down at night.
How do I fix this?
B
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