Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-18 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/19/2010 05:52 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > My point is that is my experience that the gnome configuration files > (files with names like .gnome* change from version to version so the old > home directory will not work under the new version. gnotes won't work if > the location of the database c

Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-18 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 22:26 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/18/2010 08:22 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > It is my experience that the system files change from one version to the > > next. For example the gnote database changed location between recent > > versions so you can't easily just maintain yo

Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-18 Thread fred smith
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 09:13:10AM -0700, Phil Meyer wrote: > On 11/17/2010 04:19 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:13:15 -0700 > > Phil Meyer wrote: > > > >> We have noticed a couple times that if /boot is very full BEFORE > >> preupgrade downloads anything, it will prompt to do a

Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-18 Thread Phil Meyer
On 11/17/2010 04:19 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:13:15 -0700 > Phil Meyer wrote: > >> We have noticed a couple times that if /boot is very full BEFORE >> preupgrade downloads anything, it will prompt to do a network based >> preupgrade which works well. > Just for curiosity, why

Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-18 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/18/2010 08:22 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > It is my experience that the system files change from one version to the > next. For example the gnote database changed location between recent > versions so you can't easily just maintain your home directory that way. I don't quite get your point. It

Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-18 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 07:33 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/18/2010 07:19 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > Just for curiosity, why have a separate /boot partition at all? > > I always just make a single / partition, install everything on it > > and never run out of space in /boot or /home because it is

Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 19:30:03 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > > But even if you want /home separate, having /boot separate always > seems to cause nothing but trouble. If you aren't encrypting root > or using a filesystem grub doesn't understand, I can't imagine > any good reason to make /boot s

Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:33:37 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > So, you always do upgrades and never complete installs? What happens if > it becomes necessary to do a complete install? Wouldn't you want to > have a separate /home so you wouldn't have to back it up? > > There are certainly other reasons

Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-17 Thread Andras Simon
On 11/18/10, Phil Meyer wrote: > We have noticed a couple times that if /boot is very full BEFORE > preupgrade downloads anything, it will prompt to do a network based > preupgrade which works well. > > We are now planning to always slam junk into /boot before running > preupgrade :) > > The netw

Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/18/2010 07:19 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > Just for curiosity, why have a separate /boot partition at all? > I always just make a single / partition, install everything on it > and never run out of space in /boot or /home because it is all the > same chunk of space. So, you always do upgrades and

Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:13:15 -0700 Phil Meyer wrote: > We have noticed a couple times that if /boot is very full BEFORE > preupgrade downloads anything, it will prompt to do a network based > preupgrade which works well. Just for curiosity, why have a separate /boot partition at all? I always j

Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-17 Thread Phil Meyer
On 11/17/2010 12:40 PM, Alan J. Gagne wrote: >> Jerry Feldman wrote: >>> On 11/17/2010 11:36 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Just a "in my experience" note, running an upgrade from a DVD/USB has been far more successful than preupgrade for me. Older installs had a small /boot and >>>

RE: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-17 Thread Alan J. Gagne
> Jerry Feldman wrote: >> On 11/17/2010 11:36 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: >>> Just a "in my experience" note, running an upgrade from a DVD/USB has been >>> far >>> more successful than preupgrade for me. Older installs had a small /boot and >>> often don't work well due to lack of room. YMMV. >> Whe

Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
Jerry Feldman wrote: > On 11/17/2010 11:36 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> Just a "in my experience" note, running an upgrade from a DVD/USB has been >> far >> more successful than preupgrade for me. Older installs had a small /boot and >> often don't work well due to lack of room. YMMV. > When I inst

Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-17 Thread Andras Simon
On 11/17/10, Jerry Feldman wrote: > On 11/17/2010 11:36 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> Just a "in my experience" note, running an upgrade from a DVD/USB has been >> far >> more successful than preupgrade for me. Older installs had a small /boot >> and >> often don't work well due to lack of room. YMM

Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-17 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 11/17/2010 11:36 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Just a "in my experience" note, running an upgrade from a DVD/USB has been > far > more successful than preupgrade for me. Older installs had a small /boot and > often don't work well due to lack of room. YMMV. When I installed F13 from DVD, I speci

Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
Jerry Feldman wrote: > On 11/15/2010 03:29 PM, mike cloaked wrote: >> At the weekend I was invited to attend a local linux user group >> "installfest" since all the other people there was Ubuntu-centric. I >> took along a Fedora f14 Gnome desktop install DVD, as well as a >> bootable usbkey contai

Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-15 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 11/15/2010 03:29 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > At the weekend I was invited to attend a local linux user group > "installfest" since all the other people there was Ubuntu-centric. I > took along a Fedora f14 Gnome desktop install DVD, as well as a > bootable usbkey containing the DVD iso as an inst

One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-15 Thread mike cloaked
At the weekend I was invited to attend a local linux user group "installfest" since all the other people there was Ubuntu-centric. I took along a Fedora f14 Gnome desktop install DVD, as well as a bootable usbkey containing the DVD iso as an install medium in case of need (written with livecd-iso-