Re: OT: majordomo and ezmlm are so uncool

2013-12-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 23:21:19 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: Doesn't matter, it's still a bug that increases the administrative burden of running a mailing list. It isn't a bug. It is a feature. (It makes it simple to confirm subscription.) And mailman has a similar feature, and broken au

Re: OT: majordomo and ezmlm are so uncool

2013-12-11 Thread Florian Weimer
* Bruno Wolff, III: > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 23:05:01 +0100, > Florian Weimer wrote: >> >>The confirmed opt-in subscription functionality is broken. It tends >>to subscribe auto-responders if someone or something sends malware. >>That happens less with the approach used by Mailman (even thoug

Re: OT: majordomo and ezmlm are so uncool

2013-12-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 23:05:01 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: The confirmed opt-in subscription functionality is broken. It tends to subscribe auto-responders if someone or something sends malware. That happens less with the approach used by Mailman (even though it is still convenient) or cl

Re: OT: majordomo and ezmlm are so uncool

2013-12-11 Thread Florian Weimer
* Mike Wright: > 12/11/2013 06:29 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > >> What is the attraction of these decrepit mailing-list programs? > > I can't speak to Mailman but I'll speak up for ezmlm. > > It hasn't been updated for years because it was well written and it > just works. No bugs have been found

Re: OT: majordomo and ezmlm are so uncool

2013-12-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/11/2013 06:44 AM, Greg Woods wrote: Personally, I looked briefly at qmail way back when, and decided it was a no-go because of the "my way or the highway" license it carries. The maintainer is known to watch UseNet for mentions of his program that he doesn't consider sufficiently complim

Re: OT: majordomo and ezmlm are so uncool

2013-12-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 07:19:54 -0800, Mike Wright wrote: 12/11/2013 06:29 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: What is the attraction of these decrepit mailing-list programs? I can't speak to Mailman but I'll speak up for ezmlm. It hasn't been updated for years because it was well written and it

Re: OT: majordomo and ezmlm are so uncool

2013-12-11 Thread Mike Wright
12/11/2013 06:29 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: What is the attraction of these decrepit mailing-list programs? I can't speak to Mailman but I'll speak up for ezmlm. It hasn't been updated for years because it was well written and it just works. No bugs have been found that would require changes

Re: OT: majordomo and ezmlm are so uncool

2013-12-11 Thread Greg Woods
On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 14:29 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: > the ezmlm mailing-list software, > which according to Wikipedia has not been updated since 1997, > and which "only works with the qmail mail transfer agent". > (Can this really be true?) Yes, it could. But they mean that qmail has to be r

OT: majordomo and ezmlm are so uncool

2013-12-11 Thread Timothy Murphy
I've been trying to work out how spamassassin works in the postfix/amavis context. (Either the quantity of spam email has decreased dramatically, or spamassassin is working for me, but how?) I've been trying to join the spamassassin-users and postfix-users mailing lists so that I can pursue this