RE: OT: Spam Problems

2012-07-11 Thread Errol Mangwiro
> Subject: Re: OT: Spam Problems > From: ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au > To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 18:43:03 +0930 > > Tim: > >> Spam shouldn't be bounced, though. Even /that/ address will be > >> faked, and most likel

RE: OT: Spam Problems

2012-07-11 Thread Errol Mangwiro
> Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 13:13:26 +0200 > From: h...@fritha.org > To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Subject: Re: OT: Spam Problems > > On 09.07.2012, Errol Mangwiro wrote: > > > Recently I started receiving bounces from mail purporting to having > > been

Re: OT: Spam Problems

2012-07-11 Thread Tim
Tim: >> Spam shouldn't be bounced, though. Even /that/ address will be >> faked, and most likely a forgery of someone else's address, so you >> will be spamming someone with the bounce. > Reindl Harald: > generally a proper configured server NEVER send bounces in any case > it REJECTS with a fai

Re: OT: Spam Problems

2012-07-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.07.2012 14:13, schrieb Tim: > On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 20:13 +0100, James Wilkinson wrote: >> Bounces should be sent to the SMTP envelope FROM address, not the >> address in the header. > > Spam shouldn't be bounced, though. Even /that/ address will be faked, > and most likely a forgery of s

Re: OT: Spam Problems

2012-07-10 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 10.07.2012, Errol Mangwiro wrote: > Here's a sample of the spam bounces. [] All this is unuseable, because most of the header fields are missing. See here for what the full header is: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc0822.txt -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscr

Re: OT: Spam Problems

2012-07-10 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 20:13 +0100, James Wilkinson wrote: > Bounces should be sent to the SMTP envelope FROM address, not the > address in the header. Spam shouldn't be bounced, though. Even /that/ address will be faked, and most likely a forgery of someone else's address, so you will be spamming

Re: OT: Spam Problems

2012-07-10 Thread Errol Mangwiro
Here's a sample of the spam bounces. Also does anyone use DKIM? I heard that it complements SPF records but I haven't seen much of it in the wild accept with some Google Apps domains. --Original Message-- From: Mail Delivery System To: keena...@cypherworld.net Subject: Undelivered Mail Re

Re: OT: Spam Problems

2012-07-09 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 09.07.2012, James Wilkinson wrote: > Bounces should be sent to the SMTP envelope FROM address, not the > address in the header. I didn't think on bouncing spam (which I personally regard as useless traffic), but a complaint to the servers admin where it originates. The IP-adress in the last r

Re: OT: Spam Problems

2012-07-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.07.2012 15:47, schrieb Alan Cox: > On Mon, 9 Jul 2012 11:03:38 + > "Errol Mangwiro " wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Recently I started receiving bounces from mail purporting to having been >> sent from addresses in my domain. But the addresses don't exist. So I >> thought that someone was fa

Re: OT: Spam Problems

2012-07-09 Thread Mark C. Allman
On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 20:13 +0100, James Wilkinson wrote: > Errol Mangwiro wrote: > > Does anyone know of a way I can tighten fake sender policies & prevent > > this from occuring again? > > Heinz Diehl wrote: > > You can't prevent people from faking the From: header. > > But you can detect thos

Re: OT: Spam Problems

2012-07-09 Thread James Wilkinson
Errol Mangwiro wrote: > Does anyone know of a way I can tighten fake sender policies & prevent > this from occuring again? Heinz Diehl wrote: > You can't prevent people from faking the From: header. But you can detect those fakes. Bounces should be sent to the SMTP envelope FROM address, not th

Re: OT: Spam Problems

2012-07-09 Thread Alan Cox
On Mon, 9 Jul 2012 11:03:38 + "Errol Mangwiro " wrote: > Hi, > > Recently I started receiving bounces from mail purporting to having been sent > from addresses in my domain. But the addresses don't exist. So I thought that > someone was faking the sender header and sending spam. I added SP

Re: OT: Spam Problems

2012-07-09 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 09.07.2012, Errol Mangwiro wrote: > Recently I started receiving bounces from mail purporting to having > been sent from addresses in my domain. But the addresses don't > exist. So I thought that someone was faking the sender header and > sending spam. Please post the _full_ header of such a

OT: Spam Problems

2012-07-09 Thread Errol Mangwiro
Hi, Recently I started receiving bounces from mail purporting to having been sent from addresses in my domain. But the addresses don't exist. So I thought that someone was faking the sender header and sending spam. I added SPF and domain-key records to try to combat this. However, either hotmai