On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 05:34 +0600, Ariful Hossain wrote:
> I dont understand cloud very well. I just have a ubuntu one account
> which is supposed to be private cloud.
>
> I just wanna if all the applications run on servers then the general
> users can be at submission and monopolistic business
On Sun, 2010-07-25 at 10:57 -0700, Les wrote:
> Thank you for the offer of your article. I would certainly love to read
> it. I do strive to keep current, and the cost of books and periodicals
> is not getting cheaper. My wife's favorite joke to me is about the cost
> per pound of knowledge.
S
On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 05:34 +0600, Ariful Hossain wrote:
> My employer's journal for
> > CxO types has an article I just wrote on this, where I detail why I
> > believe this is true. I'm happy to send you a copy off-line if you
> like.
> > It's a good read, and definitely clarifies these points in
uh what's this bottom-posting activity? if i build a barbed-wire
fence, should I use bottom-posting? and what should I change of my
toiletries? sign of the times, i suppose. take back this G-Mail; take
back Joe Piscapo-- give 'em all some place to go.
greasemonkey hmph!
oh-- is this an op
On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 21:47 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 13:46 -0700, Les wrote:
> > On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 07:36 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
>
> > > ...So does this also mean you have the same inherent distrust for that
> > > private internal cloud? You k
On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 13:46 -0700, Les wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 07:36 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > ...So does this also mean you have the same inherent distrust for that
> > private internal cloud? You know the one that sits inside of your house
> > and that you control?
> >
>
On 07/24/2010 10:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 07/25/2010 06:40 AM, Michael Semcheski wrote:
>> To sum up this thread:
>>
>> "I think cloud computing means Y, and Y is good because..."
>>
>> "But I think cloud computing means X, and X is bad because..."
>
> You forgot
>
> "I think cloud comp
On 07/25/2010 06:40 AM, Michael Semcheski wrote:
> To sum up this thread:
>
> "I think cloud computing means Y, and Y is good because..."
>
> "But I think cloud computing means X, and X is bad because..."
You forgot
"I think cloud computing means Y, and Y is bad because..."
.
:-)
-
To sum up this thread:
"I think cloud computing means Y, and Y is good because..."
"But I think cloud computing means X, and X is bad because..."
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On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 07:36 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 16:23 +1000, Roger wrote:
> > On 07/24/2010 01:32 PM, Nathan W wrote:
> > > *snip*
> > >
> > >> I don't pretend to know what's coming, but I do know that
> > >> when stuff is outside my house it can be p
On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 16:23 +1000, Roger wrote:
> On 07/24/2010 01:32 PM, Nathan W wrote:
> > *snip*
> >
> >> I don't pretend to know what's coming, but I do know that
> >> when stuff is outside my house it can be priced annually, it can be
> >> arbitrarily withheld, it can be surveiled, it c
On 07/24/2010 01:32 PM, Nathan W wrote:
> *snip*
>
>> I don't pretend to know what's coming, but I do know that
>> when stuff is outside my house it can be priced annually, it can be
>> arbitrarily withheld, it can be surveiled, it can be compromised by
>> those who have direct physical acces
*snip*
> I don't pretend to know what's coming, but I do know that
> when stuff is outside my house it can be priced annually, it can be
> arbitrarily withheld, it can be surveiled, it can be compromised by
> those who have direct physical access, and it is not something I really
> want or need. J
On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 15:58 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > Look at the Cloud Harmony benchmarks for your favorite cloud provider here:
> >
> > http://blog.cloudharmony.com/2010/06/cloud-server-benchmarking-part-4-memory.html
> >
> > Consider that you can get (on paper) more throughput
On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 14:23 -0600, Phil Meyer wrote:
> On 07/23/2010 12:59 AM, JD wrote:
> >
> > Can you describe the hardware of the private cloud
> > and the hardware of the non-cloud machine in the
> > location where you were involved in the installation
> > or configuration?
> > I would like to
On 07/23/2010 12:59 AM, JD wrote:
>
> Can you describe the hardware of the private cloud
> and the hardware of the non-cloud machine in the
> location where you were involved in the installation
> or configuration?
> I would like to know what is being compared to what
> when claims of doubling the
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 23:59 -0700, JD wrote:
> On 07/22/2010 10:40 PM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 23:31 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> >> On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 22:14 -0700, JD wrote:
> I've personally deployed Tier 1 databases - Oracle RAC in all of its
>
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 18:58 -0700, Les wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 09:25 +0200, birger wrote:
> > But if it works and it means
> > we (the back-end admins) can continue to override the users wishes and
> > provide what they need instead of what they ask for, I'm all for it
> > (like when DBA's
On 07/22/2010 10:40 PM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 23:31 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
>> On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 22:14 -0700, JD wrote:
I've personally deployed Tier 1 databases - Oracle RAC in all of its
glory - on cloud infrastructure. Our RAC nodes
On 07/22/2010 10:40 PM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> Almost forgot. Have a look at:
> http://www.vmware.com/solutions/business-critical-apps/exchange/
Thank you. I will take a look.
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On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 23:31 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 22:14 -0700, JD wrote:
> > > I've personally deployed Tier 1 databases - Oracle RAC in all of its
> > > glory - on cloud infrastructure. Our RAC nodes outperformed their
> > > physical counterparts in benchma
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 22:14 -0700, JD wrote:
> On 07/22/2010 10:05 PM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> >
> >> Reminds me of GFS. Though it is certainly interesting technology,
> >> no one has come out with models that show it's performance
> >> benchmarks exceeding the performance of local storage
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 18:58 -0700, Les wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 09:25 +0200, birger wrote:
> > But if it works and it means
> > we (the back-end admins) can continue to override the users wishes and
> > provide what they need instead of what they ask for, I'm all for it
> > (like when DBA's
On 07/22/2010 10:05 PM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
>
>> Reminds me of GFS. Though it is certainly interesting technology,
>> no one has come out with models that show it's performance
>> benchmarks exceeding the performance of local storage.
>> Does anyone know of large and mission critical d
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 19:14 -0700, JD wrote:
> On 07/22/2010 06:58 PM, Les wrote:
> >
> Reminds me of GFS. Though it is certainly interesting technology,
> no one has come out with models that show it's performance
> benchmarks exceeding the performance of local storage.
> Does anyone know of larg
On 07/22/2010 06:58 PM, Les wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 09:25 +0200, birger wrote:
>> But if it works and it means
>> we (the back-end admins) can continue to override the users wishes and
>> provide what they need instead of what they ask for, I'm all for it
>> (like when DBA's come with ve
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 09:25 +0200, birger wrote:
> But if it works and it means
> we (the back-end admins) can continue to override the users wishes and
> provide what they need instead of what they ask for, I'm all for it
> (like when DBA's come with very specific orders detailing raid type and
>
On 7/20/2010 3:23 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 20/07/10 20:18, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 19:45:26 Antonio Olivares wrote:
>>
>>> What's a YAA?
>>>
>> YAA stands for "Yet Another Acronym". ;-)
>>
>>
> But it's also a TLA
>
>
Three letter acro
On 7/20/2010 3:23 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 20/07/10 20:18, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 19:45:26 Antonio Olivares wrote:
>>
>>> What's a YAA?
>>>
>> YAA stands for "Yet Another Acronym". ;-)
>>
>>
> But it's also a TLA
>
>
>
Three Letter Ac
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 15:58 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> IMHO you forgot to add IMHO since we've now entered the realm of
> opinion, IMHO. :-)
;-)
I think that it goes without saying that anything that someone expresses
about something is an opinion. Usually their own, but it can be someone
else'
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, Tim wrote:
> You can argue for bottom posting, but you usually have to scroll past
> lots of needlessly quoted text, as few people trim the quotes. And
> those that don't tend to be the ones that include 300 lines of quotes.
Rather a lot of the noise on mailing lists is quot
On 07/22/2010 03:48 PM, Tim wrote:
> The biggest sin is not editing out the quoted text that's not needed,
> not the posting style. Use the damn delete key, or we will use ours.
IMHO you forgot to add IMHO since we've now entered the realm of
opinion, IMHO. :-)
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On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 17:51 -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> No, actually, those using Thunderbird (esp those who think bottom
> posting is a pain) should install the Quote Collapse add-on. If you
> need to read the collapsed quote, just click on the +.
There is no substitute for posting a clear
On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 22:27 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Dear fellow Fedora users,
>
> In light of the other(s) Big Distro makers, Red Hat is also taking a look at
> not staying behind. Here's an article that might be of interest:
>
> http://press.redhat.com/2010/07/12/red-hat-introduces-cl
On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 11:10 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> BTW: Was that in Latin? What language was that in? I tried to
> follow it, but could not understand, and then understood a few lines,
> then again, the same thing, then one line ..., etc.
Yes, it was ipsum lorem. It can be random
On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 18:51 -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 17:26 -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> >
> >> If your MUA requires you to tell others to not quote, to not top-post,
> >> to do anything other th
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 17:26 -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
>
>> If your MUA requires you to tell others to not quote, to not top-post,
>> to do anything other than post whatever they like, in order to read
>> your email comfortably, t
On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 17:26 -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> If your MUA requires you to tell others to not quote, to not top-post,
> to do anything other than post whatever they like, in order to read
> your email comfortably, then you are using the wrong MUA.
If your implication is that no ma
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Steve Searle wrote:
> Around 11:26pm on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 (UK time), Christofer C. Bell
> scrawled:
>
>> regardless of one's taste in MUA, one should not be using an MUA that
>> makes it difficult to read one's email without enforcing one's
>> personal view
Around 11:26pm on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 (UK time), Christofer C. Bell
scrawled:
> Come to think of it, I doubt the folks who missed it the first go
> around are going to get it this time, either. To speak plainly:
I am glad, because I didn't get your point until you wrote this third
email.
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Christofer C. Bell
wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
>>
>> Christofer:
>> Here in the 21st century we have considerable choice as to how we use
>> our computers. Gmail is just one of many possible solutions..
>
> I see that the joke
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
>
> Christofer:
> Here in the 21st century we have considerable choice as to how we use
> our computers. Gmail is just one of many possible solutions..
I see that the joke was lost on more than one person. My reference to
the 20th century w
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Kevin J. Cummings
wrote:
> On 07/21/2010 05:46 PM, Tom H wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Athmane Madjoudj wrote:
In fact, it makes top posting preferable since Gmail hides all the
bottom posted material. It's still there if you need to r
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:34:31 -0500
"Christofer C. Bell" wrote:
> 2010/7/21 Phil Savoie :
> > Makes a good argument for top posting, doesn't it?
> >
> > Just teasing...
>
> Personally, I wish people wouldn't quote much of anything at all
> unless absolutely necessary to illustrate a point. I've
On 07/21/2010 05:46 PM, Tom H wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Athmane Madjoudj wrote:
>>>
>>> In fact, it makes top posting preferable since Gmail hides all the
>>> bottom posted material. It's still there if you need to read it, but
>>> generally you don't. ;-)
>>
>> I use Gmail in TB3
On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 16:34 -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> 2010/7/21 Phil Savoie :
> > Makes a good argument for top posting, doesn't it?
> >
> > Just teasing...
>
> Personally, I wish people wouldn't quote much of anything at all
> unless absolutely necessary to illustrate a point.
Agreed.
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Athmane Madjoudj wrote:
>>
>> In fact, it makes top posting preferable since Gmail hides all the
>> bottom posted material. It's still there if you need to read it, but
>> generally you don't. ;-)
>
> I use Gmail in TB3, but someone asked me about bottom posting i
>
> In fact, it makes top posting preferable since Gmail hides all the
> bottom posted material. It's still there if you need to read it, but
> generally you don't. ;-)
>
I use Gmail in TB3, but someone asked me about bottom posting in Gmail,
I give to him this solution.
- Use Firefox
- Instal
2010/7/21 Phil Savoie :
> Makes a good argument for top posting, doesn't it?
>
> Just teasing...
Personally, I wish people wouldn't quote much of anything at all
unless absolutely necessary to illustrate a point. I've moved into
the 20th century and read email in Gmail where threaded conversation
The concept of Cloud Computing is there, but folks have to decide for their own
cases and their own solutions [private,public,...] Clouds :)
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And then came the RAIN due to "Cloud Computing". Sorry guys, could not resist.
:(
Regards,
Antonio
Tim,
BTW: Was that in Latin? What language
Makes a good argument for top posting, doesn't it?
Just teasing...
On 21/07/10 11:19 AM, Tim wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 07:46 -0700, JD wrote:
>> smart use or efficient use
>
> Speaking of such, can people to learn to snip when quoting, FFS!
>
> Geez, but you COMPLETELY UNNECESSARILY quoted
On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 09:12 -0700, JD wrote:
> LOL ! That's a knee slapper :)
And yet he does it again.
poc
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LOL ! That's a knee slapper :)
On 07/21/2010 08:19 AM, Tim wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 07:46 -0700, JD wrote:
>> smart use or efficient use
> Speaking of such, can people to learn to snip when quoting, FFS!
>
> Geez, but you COMPLETELY UNNECESSARILY quoted 154 lines of 4 complete
> prior ema
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 00:49 +0930, Tim wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 07:46 -0700, JD wrote:
> > smart use or efficient use
>
> Speaking of such, can people to learn to snip when quoting, FFS!
>
> Geez, but you COMPLETELY UNNECESSARILY quoted 154 lines of 4 complete
> prior emails to just add
On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 08:26 -0700, JD wrote:
> On 07/21/2010 08:12 AM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 07:46 -0700, JD wrote:
> >> On 07/21/2010 12:55 AM, Les wrote:
> >
> >>> I watched a very good company have a big breakdown when their old server
> >>> system with dumb t
On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 00:55 -0700, Les wrote:
>
> I like my systems to be local. I program them, I explore them, I
> sometimes hack on them with software, hardware, or a combination. I
> occasionally take one of the off line and use it for a program dump, or
> just to mess with ethernet stuff w
On 07/21/2010 08:12 AM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 07:46 -0700, JD wrote:
>> On 07/21/2010 12:55 AM, Les wrote:
>
>>> I watched a very good company have a big breakdown when their old server
>>> system with dumb terminals went down. The costs, and impacts nearly put
On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 07:46 -0700, JD wrote:
> smart use or efficient use
Speaking of such, can people to learn to snip when quoting, FFS!
Geez, but you COMPLETELY UNNECESSARILY quoted 154 lines of 4 complete
prior emails to just add 4 lines of text. Quite apart from being a
hugely inefficien
On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 07:46 -0700, JD wrote:
> On 07/21/2010 12:55 AM, Les wrote:
> > I watched a very good company have a big breakdown when their old server
> > system with dumb terminals went down. The costs, and impacts nearly put
> > them out of business. If they had been smaller it would h
On 07/21/2010 12:55 AM, Les wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 20:48 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
>> On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 03:00 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 23:18:11 Phil Meyer wrote:
That is the whole point. Ideally this is how it works from a ptactical
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 20:21:56 -0400,
Genes MailLists wrote:
>
> This way -the VM can be booted no prob with unencrypted root - but user
> of VM gets privacy.
Only against after the fact attempts to recover the data. If you are under
surveilance when you access the vm, your keys can be capt
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:55 AM, Les wrote:
> Moreover you pointed out one of the real issues: month to month rental
> or lease or whatever you want to call it. And that is not counting the
> connection costs, storage premium if you are a non-standard user, or the
> lack of control, or the
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Tim wrote:
> This (the above, plus the whole of your message that I didn't quote) all
> sounds like they've just renamed mainframe computing as clouds.
Well the web probably sounded like they had just renamed gopher.
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On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 20:48 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 03:00 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 23:18:11 Phil Meyer wrote:
> > > That is the whole point. Ideally this is how it works from a ptactical
> > > point of view:
> > >
> > > I am
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 13:21 -0400, Michael Semcheski wrote:
> With a private cloud, there'd be one group that does all the servers.
> That one group purchases the hardware autonomously, uses fancy tools
> to monitor the hardware, has a room with redundant power and redundant
> cooling. Individual
On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 03:00 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 23:18:11 Phil Meyer wrote:
> > That is the whole point. Ideally this is how it works from a ptactical
> > point of view:
> >
> > I am the Dean of Engineering and we need to run a massive simulation of
> > a type
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> When people invest their money into something, they want to be "in charge" of
> it. And if they are supposed to share it with others, there is bound to be a
> lot of friction.
One of the key ideas that makes Amazon's EC2 and S3 successful
On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 23:18:11 Phil Meyer wrote:
> On 07/20/2010 03:38 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
> > While there are quite a lot of advantages to this there are some
> > disadvantages, particularly in the research setting you describe where
> > each department will have its own set of grants which
On 07/20/2010 03:11 PM, Michael Semcheski wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:27 PM, wrote:
>> Just in general, what's the point in having server-disks (either local or
>> "in-the-cloud" encrypted?
>> As soon as you start them up, all we be de-crypted and your system is only
>> protected by norm
On 07/20/2010 03:38 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
> On 20 July 2010 18:21, Michael Semcheski wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>>
>>> Specifically, assuming that I have my own hardware to set the whole thing
>>> up,
>>> what is the difference between having a
On 20 July 2010 18:21, Michael Semcheski wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>> Specifically, assuming that I have my own hardware to set the whole thing up,
>> what is the difference between having a server (possibly virtualized), and
>> having a server "on the clou
I have had enough, take this meaningless talk somewhere else,
I am tired of getting 100's of stupid Fedora messages like these
On 07/20/2010 03:23 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 20/07/10 20:18, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 19:45:26 Antonio Olivares wrote:
>>> What's a YAA?
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:18:40 +0100
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> YAA stands for "Yet Another Acronym". ;-)
UNA!
(Use No Acronyms :-).
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On 20/07/10 20:18, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 19:45:26 Antonio Olivares wrote:
>> What's a YAA?
>
> YAA stands for "Yet Another Acronym". ;-)
>
But it's also a TLA
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On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 19:45:26 Antonio Olivares wrote:
> What's a YAA?
YAA stands for "Yet Another Acronym". ;-)
Best, :-)
Marko
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On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:27 PM, wrote:
> Just in general, what's the point in having server-disks (either local or
> "in-the-cloud" encrypted?
> As soon as you start them up, all we be de-crypted and your system is only
> protected by normal security measures.
>
> Only usefull purpose might be
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> Ok, I understand what you are saying, but what you actually describe is an
> organizational issue, while I was having in mind a little bit more technical
> aspect.
No, what I'm describing is a situation. That situation developed over
time
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 13:41 -0400, Matthew J. Roth wrote:
> --- On Tue, 7/20/10, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>
> > Say, since you have hands-on experience with this, would
> > you mind helping me understand the idea itself?
> >
> > Specifically, assuming that I have my own hardware to set
> > the who
> My general understanding of any IT concept is that it has
> two aspects ---
> design and implementation. If cloud computing is purely a
> design thing that is
> being implemented via other (existing) technologies wrapped
> together, then
> it's just abstract terminology (which is yet to be def
On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 18:21:58 Michael Semcheski wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > Specifically, assuming that I have my own hardware to set the whole thing
> > up, what is the difference between having a server (possibly
> > virtualized), and having a serve
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On 07/20/2010 11:06 AM, Michael Semcheski wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Antonio Olivares
> wrote:
>> It was a legitimate question, since I read somewhere that Ubuntu was using
>> some kind of cloud service and how does one disable it.
>>
>> Is there some kind of guarantee that Fedo
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Antonio Olivares
wrote:
> It was a legitimate question, since I read somewhere that Ubuntu was using
> some kind of cloud service and how does one disable it.
>
> Is there some kind of guarantee that Fedora will not force one to store /home
> on a "Cloud server s
--- On Tue, 7/20/10, Matthew J. Roth wrote:
> Antonio,
>
> Clearly, you are just playing devil's advocate since the
> answers to your questions are contained in a document that
> has already been quoted once in the replies to your initial
> post. In fact, that document is a mere two clicks awa
--- On Tue, 7/20/10, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> Say, since you have hands-on experience with this, would
> you mind helping me understand the idea itself?
>
> Specifically, assuming that I have my own hardware to set
> the whole thing up, what is the difference between having
> a server (possibly
On 07/20/2010 10:12 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 07/20/2010 10:38 PM, JD wrote:
>> Will there be a way to remove this feature from one's installation?
>> The web site you refer has in it more of how-to's for ops.
>> I hope that one can reconfigure the kernel to disable cloud altogether.
>>
> "C
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> Specifically, assuming that I have my own hardware to set the whole thing up,
> what is the difference between having a server (possibly virtualized), and
> having a server "on the cloud"? And what is the main benefit of the latter
> over
On 07/20/2010 10:41 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>
> --- On Tue, 7/20/10, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>
>
>> What cloud committee?
>>
>>
> Sorry I did not post that, I forgot about it. I read that Red Hat was
> exploring the "Cloud computing/Cloud Services" like Google, OpenSUSE, Ubuntu
> and
On 07/20/2010 10:38 PM, JD wrote:
>
> Will there be a way to remove this feature from one's installation?
> The web site you refer has in it more of how-to's for ops.
> I hope that one can reconfigure the kernel to disable cloud altogether.
>
"Cloud computing" isn't a kernel feature to disable
--- On Tue, 7/20/10, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> From: Rahul Sundaram
> Subject: Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...
> To: "Community support for Fedora users"
> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 9:56 AM
> On 07/20/2010 10:19 PM, Antonio
> Olivares wrote:
>
On 07/20/2010 08:31 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>> What are the implicit and explicit impacts on the Fedora
>> distribution?
>>
>> --
> Fedora would be used/utilized for the experimentation/design of the "Cloud"
>
> See this:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Cloud_Infrastructure_SOP
>
>
--- On Tue, 7/20/10, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> From: Marko Vojinovic
> Subject: Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...
> To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 9:51 AM
> On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 17:32:20
> Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> >
On 07/20/2010 10:19 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>
> Did I say that? You are adding this to the discussion. I just posted that
> Red Hat had a "cloud committee" and a link to the page. I know, I know if
> you took it that way I am sorry :(
>
What cloud committee? You posted a link about
On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 17:32:20 Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> Sorry I'm "late to the party" on this one. This (consulting, designing,
> deploying, and managing cloud environments) is what I do in my day job,
> so I'm regularly at ground zero of these and related issues. I drive a
> lot of tho
--- On Tue, 7/20/10, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> From: Rahul Sundaram
> Subject: Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...
> To: "Community support for Fedora users"
> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 9:40 AM
> On 07/20/2010 09:57 PM, Antonio
> Olivares wrote:
> >&
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 09:27:07 -0700,
Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > How does one explain Fedora Games SIG?
>
> A customized spin of Fedora with games :), Like KDE spin, LXDE spin, XFCE
> spin, SugarSpin, ..., etc. I can ask Bruno Wolffe for more information on
> the Games spin if needed, b
On 07/20/2010 09:57 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>> How does one explain Fedora Games SIG?
>>
> A customized spin of Fedora with games :), Like KDE spin, LXDE spin, XFCE
> spin, SugarSpin, ..., etc. I can ask Bruno Wolffe for more information on
> the Games spin if needed, but I am happy a
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 11:49 -0400, Matthew J. Roth wrote:
> Antonio Olivares wrote:
>
> > Keywords: properly designed :)
> >
> > But you are still succeptible to a third party[even though the files could
> > be crypted and apparently not seen, that might not be the case] and you
> > can't be 1
On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 16:16:30 Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> On 07/20/2010 10:58 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > I am opposed to it, because I don't want to trust a third party with my
> > files, with my documents, ..., etc. I agree with Richard Stallman on
> > this one:
> >
> > http://www.guard
> How does one explain Fedora Games SIG?
A customized spin of Fedora with games :), Like KDE spin, LXDE spin, XFCE spin,
SugarSpin, ..., etc. I can ask Bruno Wolffe for more information on the Games
spin if needed, but I am happy as it is :)
> Fedora has
> hundreds of projects
> running at
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