Re: Smolt (was Re: Moving from 32-bit to 64-bit Fedora)

2012-06-12 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:23:57 -0700 "Wolfgang S. Rupprecht" wrote: > > Steve Searle writes: > > Around 11:05pm on Monday, June 11, 2012 (UK time), Wolfgang > > S. Rupprecht scrawled: > > > >> Sadly, before Fedora Smolt went down, it still showed more 32-bit > >> than 64-bit installs. Fedora doe

Re: Moving from 32-bit to 64-bit Fedora

2012-06-12 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 04:33 -0400, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 06/11/2012 11:27 PM, Alan Cox wrote: > > Far from it. x32 is designed for performance. There are many applications > > where the additional space occupied by 64bit pointers is a measurable > > performance hit, but you still want to use th

Re: Moving from 32-bit to 64-bit Fedora

2012-06-12 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/11/2012 11:27 PM, Alan Cox wrote: > Far from it. x32 is designed for performance. There are many applications > where the additional space occupied by 64bit pointers is a measurable > performance hit, but you still want to use the 64bit features of the CPU > in all other respects. It's prett

Re: Moving from 32-bit to 64-bit Fedora

2012-06-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/11/2012 08:51 PM, John Wendel wrote: No, everybody doesn't have more than 1G memory. Sad, me :( Yes, my mobo's maxed out at 1G, although my CPU could handle twice that. Alas, I'm not in the position to upgrade right now because of limited funds and more urgent things to spend it on,

Re: Moving from 32-bit to 64-bit Fedora

2012-06-11 Thread John Wendel
On 06/11/2012 03:05 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Reindl Harald writes: the better road would be drop i686 completly over the long the last 4 years not a single i686 package installed and the world still turns - i686 was yesterday I agree fully with the sentiment that no x86_64 capable com

Smolt (was Re: Moving from 32-bit to 64-bit Fedora)

2012-06-11 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Steve Searle writes: > Around 11:05pm on Monday, June 11, 2012 (UK time), Wolfgang > S. Rupprecht scrawled: > >> Sadly, before Fedora Smolt went down, it still showed more 32-bit than >> 64-bit installs. Fedora doesn't do enough to encourage everyone that > > I don't think its down: > http://smo

Re: Moving from 32-bit to 64-bit Fedora

2012-06-11 Thread Alan Cox
> > Is that why intel put a lot effort into creating the x32 ABI? > > no becasue it needs also rebuilding because it is a NEW ABI > it is only interesting for embedded devices Far from it. x32 is designed for performance. There are many applications where the additional space occupied by 64bit po

Re: Moving from 32-bit to 64-bit Fedora

2012-06-11 Thread Steve Searle
Around 11:05pm on Monday, June 11, 2012 (UK time), Wolfgang S. Rupprecht scrawled: > Sadly, before Fedora Smolt went down, it still showed more 32-bit than > 64-bit installs. Fedora doesn't do enough to encourage everyone that I don't think its down: http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/static/stats/

Re: Moving from 32-bit to 64-bit Fedora

2012-06-11 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Reindl Harald writes: > the better road would be drop i686 completly over the long > > the last 4 years not a single i686 package installed > and the world still turns - i686 was yesterday I agree fully with the sentiment that no x86_64 capable computer should be running 32-bit code. Everybody

Re: Moving from 32-bit to 64-bit Fedora

2012-06-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.06.2012 23:43, schrieb Clemens Eisserer: > Hi, > >> recompile everything! >> these days there is no need for 32bit >> >> [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -qa | grep i686 | wc -l >> 0 >> [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -qa | grep x86_64 | wc -l >> 1128 > > Is that why intel put a lot effort into creati

Re: Moving from 32-bit to 64-bit Fedora

2012-06-11 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi, > recompile everything! > these days there is no need for 32bit > > [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -qa | grep i686 | wc -l > 0 > [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -qa | grep x86_64 | wc -l > 1128 Is that why intel put a lot effort into creating the x32 ABI? Actually, if you have less than 4GB RAM there is

Re: Moving from 32-bit to 64-bit Fedora

2012-06-11 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 2012-06-11 at 14:36 -0400, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 11.06.2012 20:10, schrieb Geoffrey Leach: > > I'm currently running a 32-bit Fedora 16 on a 64-bit capable system. I > > intend to upgrade to a 64-bin install for Fedora 17. > > > > My way of moving between releases is to install (f

Re: Moving from 32-bit to 64-bit Fedora

2012-06-11 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 06/11/2012 08:10 PM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: > I'm currently running a 32-bit Fedora 16 on a 64-bit capable system. I > intend to upgrade to a 64-bin install for Fedora 17. > > My way of moving between releases is to install (from DVD), > reformatting / and /boot, leaving /home and /usr/local (

Re: Moving from 32-bit to 64-bit Fedora

2012-06-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.06.2012 20:10, schrieb Geoffrey Leach: > I'm currently running a 32-bit Fedora 16 on a 64-bit capable system. I > intend to upgrade to a 64-bin install for Fedora 17. > > My way of moving between releases is to install (from DVD), > reformatting / and /boot, leaving /home and /usr/local

Moving from 32-bit to 64-bit Fedora

2012-06-11 Thread Geoffrey Leach
I'm currently running a 32-bit Fedora 16 on a 64-bit capable system. I intend to upgrade to a 64-bin install for Fedora 17. My way of moving between releases is to install (from DVD), reformatting / and /boot, leaving /home and /usr/local (which have their own partitions) untouched. My questio