On 21 October 2012 09:51, Tim wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just a heads up, in case anyone else decides (against all sanity) to try
> using Skype, *and* get a webcam working, on 64-bit Fedora 17, you get
> stymied by:
>
>Skype being only released in 32 bit
>Skype wanting video for Linux 1
>Fedora
On 23 October 2012 09:27, Tim wrote:
> To re-write the instructions, which I'm sure were from another message
> thread, the line being added to the GRUB file should be two words
> separated by an underscore, equals, eight-hundred by six-hundred:
>
> GRUB_GFXMODE=800x600
>
> The UTF-7 encoding s
On Mon, 2012-10-22 at 11:27 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
> in ThunderBird 16.0.1 on Fedora Rawhide an email that Tim sent thru
> shows this in his comments:
>
>
> In the /etc/default/grub file, I added this line:
>
> GRUB_GFXMODE=800x600
The above has been automatically corrected by my mail cli
On 10/22/12 09:52, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Monday, 22. October 2012. 11.25.04 Ian Malone wrote:
>> On 22 October 2012 11:18, Tim wrote:
>>> Tim:
> Discouraged by who? It's supposedly *the* answer to email
>>>
>>> Ed Greshko:
UFT-7 isn't widely used But if you want to use it go a
Am 22.10.2012 12:30, schrieb Tim:
> By the way, in this thread, see a series of messages by Ed Greshko, but
> with quotes from Reindl Harald that don't seem to be on the list. Yet
> there's, semi-obviously, been a discussion. Is this private replies
> being made public, or another of those stra
Am 22.10.2012 11:20, schrieb Ed Greshko:
> On 10/22/2012 05:16 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>> Am 22.10.2012 11:08, schrieb Ed Greshko:
>>> My statement was in regards to "email" messages. Still you get a
>>> "crap" vs. "crap" trade-off as shown in another message.
>>> I see many people whinin
Am 22.10.2012 11:08, schrieb Ed Greshko:
> My statement was in regards to "email" messages. Still you get a
> "crap" vs. "crap" trade-off as shown in another message.
> I see many people whining about the message bodies being encoded
> in base64 or Q-P. It just doesn't bother me
well, com
Am 22.10.2012 10:19, schrieb Ed Greshko:
> Whatever UFT-7 isn't widely used But if you want to use it go ahead.
> Must be an Australian thing :-) :-)
special chars in imap folder names as example are UTF-7
you learn this by implement a dbmail-web-backend :-)
http://php.net/manual/
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Sunday, 21. October 2012. 19.21.02 Tim wrote:
+ACMAIQ-/bin/bash
+ACM
+ACM force preloading of a 32 bit video for linux 1
+ACM compatibility library for video for linux 2
LD+AF8-PRELOAD+AD0-/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype
What is this +A stu
On Monday, 22. October 2012. 7.54.01 Ian Malone wrote:
> Tim's email is UTF-7. Marko seems to be using gmail but getting plain
> text. The original looks okay on my gmail, maybe try changing the
> gmail display language to English? Or use the 'message text garbled'
> drop-down option for the messah
On Monday, 22. October 2012. 11.25.04 Ian Malone wrote:
> On 22 October 2012 11:18, Tim wrote:
> > Tim:
> >>> Discouraged by who? It's supposedly *the* answer to email
> >
> > Ed Greshko:
> >> UFT-7 isn't widely used But if you want to use it go ahead.
> >
> > You said it's discouraged. I
On 10/22/2012 06:39 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> So, if you use = and _ , etc it will be garbage to most people. Not very
> friendly for users of the archive. IMHO.
>>
>
> Those look fine in the archive, to me at least:
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2012-October/425898.html
O
So, if you use = and _ , etc it will be garbage to most people. Not
very friendly for users of the archive. IMHO.
Those look fine in the archive, to me at least:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2012-October/425898.html
But your message didn't wrap in the archive at least t
On 10/22/2012 06:30 PM, Tim wrote:
> By the way, in this thread, see a series of messages by Ed Greshko, but
> with quotes from Reindl Harald that don't seem to be on the list. Yet
> there's, semi-obviously, been a discussion. Is this private replies
> being made public, or another of those stran
On 22/10/12 11:30, Tim wrote:
another of those strange list moderations?
He's still on moderation I believe.
His posts might come through later on.
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On 10/22/2012 06:25 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
> On 22 October 2012 11:18, Tim wrote:
>> Tim:
Discouraged by who? It's supposedly *the* answer to email
>> Ed Greshko:
>>> UFT-7 isn't widely used But if you want to use it go ahead.
>> You said it's discouraged. I've never seen any such comme
On 22/10/12 11:25, Ian Malone wrote:
. Still, whatever reader Marko
is using should be able to handle it, if it is GMail then it's a bug
in that.
Looks fine in Gmail (Web) to me.
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On Mon, 2012-10-22 at 17:33 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> you can either argue that the list server software needs to be "fixed"
> or "configured" to do the transformation so you can continue to use
> your UTF-7. Or you can be a "good citizen" and use UTF-8at
> least until the problem that yo
On 22 October 2012 11:18, Tim wrote:
> Tim:
>>> Discouraged by who? It's supposedly *the* answer to email
>
> Ed Greshko:
>> UFT-7 isn't widely used But if you want to use it go ahead.
>
> You said it's discouraged. I've never seen any such comment. Where do
> you find that advice?
>
htt
On 10/22/2012 06:18 PM, Tim wrote:
> Tim:
>>> Discouraged by who? It's supposedly *the* answer to email
> Ed Greshko:
>> Whatever
> Jerk...
Hummm Reduced to name calling. I thought that beneath you. :-)
>
>> UFT-7 isn't widely used But if you want to use it go ahead.
> You said i
Tim:
>> Discouraged by who? It's supposedly *the* answer to email
Ed Greshko:
> Whatever
Jerk...
> UFT-7 isn't widely used But if you want to use it go ahead.
You said it's discouraged. I've never seen any such comment. Where do
you find that advice?
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On 10/22/2012 05:25 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 22.10.2012 11:20, schrieb Ed Greshko:
>> On 10/22/2012 05:16 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>> Am 22.10.2012 11:08, schrieb Ed Greshko:
My statement was in regards to "email" messages. Still you get a
"crap" vs. "crap" trade-off as shown in
On 10/22/2012 05:16 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 22.10.2012 11:08, schrieb Ed Greshko:
>> My statement was in regards to "email" messages. Still you get a
>> "crap" vs. "crap" trade-off as shown in another message.
>> I see many people whining about the message bodies being encoded
>> in ba
On 10/22/2012 04:24 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 22.10.2012 10:19, schrieb Ed Greshko:
>> Whatever UFT-7 isn't widely used But if you want to use it go
>> ahead.
>> Must be an Australian thing :-) :-)
> special chars in imap folder names as example are UTF-7
> you learn this by i
On 10/22/2012 04:29 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 22/10/12 09:24, Ed Greshko wrote:
>
>> Besides, while the servers may leave the text "alone" they are by no means
>> any better than quoted printable since UTF-7 does its own encoding. So.
>>
>> When you wrote *the* it appears in the actual mes
On 22/10/12 09:24, Ed Greshko wrote:
Besides, while the servers may leave the text "alone" they are by no means any
better than quoted printable since UTF-7 does its own encoding. So.
When you wrote *the* it appears in the actual message source as +ACo-the+ACo. Not very human
friendly.
On 10/22/2012 04:19 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Whatever UFT-7 isn't widely used But if you want to use it go ahead.
> Must be an Australian thing :-) :-)
Besides, while the servers may leave the text "alone" they are by no means any
better than quoted printable since UTF-7 does its ow
On 10/22/2012 04:11 PM, Tim wrote:
> Ed Greshko:
>>> I don't think it is very common to see UTF-7.
>> FWIW Contained within http://www.imc.org/imcr-010.html
>>
>> It should be noted that the Unicode Standard also defines the UTF-7
>> charset, which was intended for Internet mail. However, MI
Ed Greshko:
>> I don't think it is very common to see UTF-7.
> FWIW Contained within http://www.imc.org/imcr-010.html
>
> It should be noted that the Unicode Standard also defines the UTF-7
> charset, which was intended for Internet mail. However, MIME is quite
> capable of carrying UTF-8,
On 10/22/2012 03:04 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> I don't think it is very common to see UTF-7.
FWIW Contained within http://www.imc.org/imcr-010.html
It should be noted that the Unicode Standard also defines the UTF-7 charset,
which was intended for Internet mail. However, MIME is quite capabl
On 10/22/2012 02:54 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
> On 22 October 2012 07:21, Frank Murphy wrote:
>> On 22/10/12 07:06, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 21. October 2012. 19.21.02 Tim wrote:
+ACMAIQ-/bin/bash
+ACM
+ACM force preloading of a 32 bit video for linux 1
>>
On 22/10/12 07:55, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 10/22/2012 02:53 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
Neither do Iin the inbox. Yet, if I "forward" the message in TBird I get
what Marko sees in the newly formed message Interesting...
Should have checked But if I view "message source" in TBird I also
On 10/22/2012 02:53 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Neither do Iin the inbox. Yet, if I "forward" the message in TBird I
> get what Marko sees in the newly formed message Interesting...
Should have checked But if I view "message source" in TBird I also see...
+ACMAIQ-/bin/bash
+ACM
+A
On 22 October 2012 07:21, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 22/10/12 07:06, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>>
>> On Sunday, 21. October 2012. 19.21.02 Tim wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> +ACMAIQ-/bin/bash
>>> +ACM
>>> +ACM force preloading of a 32 bit video for linux 1
>>> +ACM compatibility library for video
On 10/22/2012 02:21 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 22/10/12 07:06, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>> On Sunday, 21. October 2012. 19.21.02 Tim wrote:
>>>
>>> +ACMAIQ-/bin/bash
>>> +ACM
>>> +ACM force preloading of a 32 bit video for linux 1
>>> +ACM compatibility library for video for linux
On 22/10/12 07:06, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Sunday, 21. October 2012. 19.21.02 Tim wrote:
+ACMAIQ-/bin/bash
+ACM
+ACM force preloading of a 32 bit video for linux 1
+ACM compatibility library for video for linux 2
LD+AF8-PRELOAD+AD0-/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype
On Sunday, 21. October 2012. 19.21.02 Tim wrote:
>
>+ACMAIQ-/bin/bash
>+ACM
>+ACM force preloading of a 32 bit video for linux 1
>+ACM compatibility library for video for linux 2
>
>LD+AF8-PRELOAD+AD0-/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype
What is this +A stuff?
> --
> +AFs-t
Hi,
Just a heads up, in case anyone else decides (against all sanity) to try
using Skype, *and* get a webcam working, on 64-bit Fedora 17, you get
stymied by:
Skype being only released in 32 bit
Skype wanting video for Linux 1
Fedora 17 uses video for Linux 2
Web pages offering advice
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