Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-21 Thread ergodic
Glad it helped - Original Message - On 21.08.2013, ergodic wrote: > The UUIDs of the newly partitioned drive will most probably > be different from those of the original drive They *are* different, with 100% certainty. Great you mentioned it, this will help to avoid mount problems (and

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-21 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 21.08.2013, ergodic wrote: > The UUIDs of the newly partitioned drive will most probably > be different from those of the original drive They *are* different, with 100% certainty. Great you mentioned it, this will help to avoid mount problems (and save some time using a rescue disk to fix tha

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-21 Thread Gregory Hosler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/21/2013 11:15 PM, ergodic wrote: > Caveat. > > The UUIDs of the newly partitioned drive will most probably be different > from those of the original drive which can create problems with the booting > and swap partitions. Check the /etc/fstab fil

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-21 Thread Gregory Hosler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/21/2013 03:16 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > On 08/21/2013 05:13 AM, Gregory Hosler wrote: > >> If a mounted partition is being copied, then the result (destination) is >> that mounted partition. As boot time, it will need to be fsck. Any open >>

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-21 Thread ergodic
Caveat. The UUIDs of the newly partitioned drive will most probably be different from those of the original drive which can create problems with the booting and swap partitions. Check the /etc/fstab file to see what UUIDs the OS is using. The UUIDs of the original drive and partitions should be i

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-21 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 08/21/2013 05:13 AM, Gregory Hosler wrote: > If a mounted partition is being copied, then the result (destination) is that > mounted partition. As boot time, it will need to be fsck. Any open files will > be in whatever state they were in when they were copied. Hence, all files > should be c

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-20 Thread Gregory Hosler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/19/2013 04:57 AM, Erik P. Olsen wrote: > I plan to swap the HD on my laptop with an SSD of same size. Will it work > OK if I dd the HD to an external HD, swap the HD with the SSD and dd the > contents back to the SSD? I believe I can use knoppix

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-20 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 08:36:24PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 20.08.2013, Heinz Diehl wrote: > > [] > > And the kernel is vanilla from kernel.org: > > [htd@kiera ~]$ uname -a > Linux kiera.fritha.org 3.10.8 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Aug 20 19:53:31 CEST 2013 > x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-20 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 08:32:22PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 20.08.2013, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: > > > Here are the program numbers while running the script: > > > > CFQ: > [] > > Seems that cfq performs better on your machine, under this workload. Apparently so. But I can't expla

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-20 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 04:02:42PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 20.08.2013, Heinz Diehl wrote: > > > Then, open another one and run fsync-tester. The numbers that count to > > compare different elevators on your system is the output fsync-tester > > generates while your machine is generating t

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.08.2013 19:15, schrieb Mihai T. Lazarescu: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 03:56:56PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: >> All these numbers are pointless, because when I see >> your results I'm quite shure you did run the test without >> generating loads of disk I/O in parallel. What you actually >> mea

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-20 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 20.08.2013, Heinz Diehl wrote: [] And the kernel is vanilla from kernel.org: [htd@kiera ~]$ uname -a Linux kiera.fritha.org 3.10.8 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Aug 20 19:53:31 CEST 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change s

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-20 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 20.08.2013, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: > Here are the program numbers while running the script: > > CFQ: [] Seems that cfq performs better on your machine, under this workload. Gave it a quick test (using the original fsync-tester from Ted Tso): cfq: htd@kiera test]$ ./fst1 fsync time:

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-20 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 03:56:56PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 20.08.2013, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: > > > Thanks for the pointer. I add to the mix my test results for > > F19 with kernel 3.10.7 on an ASUS UX31E with its factory 256GB > > SSD-only mass storage. > > > > CFQ scheduler run1: >

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-20 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 20.08.2013, Heinz Diehl wrote: > Then, open another one and run fsync-tester. The numbers that count to > compare different elevators on your system is the output fsync-tester > generates while your machine is generating the "bigfile". And while your're at it, you could also consider doing so

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-20 Thread Heinz Diehl
Hi Mihai, On 20.08.2013, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: > Thanks for the pointer. I add to the mix my test results for > F19 with kernel 3.10.7 on an ASUS UX31E with its factory 256GB > SSD-only mass storage. > > CFQ scheduler run1: [] All these numbers are pointless, because when I see your r

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-20 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 08/19/2013 09:43 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > If I were you I'd go with fresh partition and new filesystem. Now, it's > a good time to optimize your filesystem, maybe fix some broken metadata > and i-nodes. You don't copy all that garbage. If you simply use dd, you > also preserve potential

Re: HD to SSD question. THANKS.

2013-08-19 Thread Erik P. Olsen
On 18/08/13 22:57, Erik P. Olsen wrote: I plan to swap the HD on my laptop with an SSD of same size. Will it work OK if I dd the HD to an external HD, swap the HD with the SSD and dd the contents back to the SSD? I believe I can use knoppix to the process. Thanks to everybody for providing suc

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-19 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 09:24:14PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 19.08.2013, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: > > > It appears that CFQ can sense and adapt to SSD and has little > > if any loss to other I/O schedulers: > > > http://www.velobit.com/storage-performance-blog/bid/126135/Effects-Of-Linux-

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-19 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 18.08.2013 22:57, Erik P. Olsen wrote: > I plan to swap the HD on my laptop with an SSD of same size. Will it > work OK if I dd the HD to an external HD, swap the HD with the SSD and > dd the contents back to the SSD? I believe I can use knoppix to the > process. > If I were you I'd go with fr

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-19 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 19.08.2013, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: > It appears that CFQ can sense and adapt to SSD and has little > if any loss to other I/O schedulers: > http://www.velobit.com/storage-performance-blog/bid/126135/Effects-Of-Linux-IO-Scheduler-On-SSD-Performance They only tested bandwidth, not latency.

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-19 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 06:30:06PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > Don't forget to switch to the deadline elevator, it works a > lot better than cfq in combination with non-rotational drives. It appears that CFQ can sense and adapt to SSD and has little if any loss to other I/O schedulers: https

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-19 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 19.08.2013, Erik P. Olsen wrote: > I plan to swap the HD on my laptop with an SSD of same size. Will it work OK > if I dd the HD to an external HD, swap the HD with the SSD and dd the > contents back to the SSD? Technically it would work, but you'll most probably encounter a huge performance

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-18 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
On 18 Aug 2013 at 22:57, Erik P. Olsen wrote: Date sent: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 22:57:09 +0200 From: "Erik P. Olsen" Organization: EPO data To: Fedora Mailing List Subject: HD to SSD question. Sen

Re: HD to SSD question.

2013-08-18 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:57:09PM +0200, Erik P. Olsen wrote: > I plan to swap the HD on my laptop with an SSD of same size. > Will it work OK if I dd the HD to an external HD, swap > the HD with the SSD and dd the contents back to the SSD? > I believe I can use knoppix to the process. You can d

HD to SSD question.

2013-08-18 Thread Erik P. Olsen
I plan to swap the HD on my laptop with an SSD of same size. Will it work OK if I dd the HD to an external HD, swap the HD with the SSD and dd the contents back to the SSD? I believe I can use knoppix to the process. -- Erik -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or