Re: Good article on systemd

2016-10-04 Thread Rex Dieter
Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 01 October 2016, Ed Greshko sent: >> Maybe the point Rex was making was simply that discussion could be had >> and frustrations could be vented but minus the Ad Hominem attacks? > > Dunno. There is no dunno here, it is clear our community does not condone pers

Re: Good article on systemd

2016-10-03 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 01 October 2016, Ed Greshko sent: > Maybe the point Rex was making was simply that discussion could be had > and frustrations could be vented but minus the Ad Hominem attacks? Dunno. The willful blindness to its problems, and lack of concern about it's shortcomings, and bl

Re: Good article on systemd

2016-09-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/30/2016 02:58 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I have complete faith that this is going to correct itself, over time. It won't happen soon, but these things typically work themselves out in long term. Currently, systemd has mindshare in most Linux distros. But that can always change, and I think

Re: Good article on systemd

2016-09-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Justin Moore writes: Several people have raised this on the MythTV lists and provided feedback to the systemd developers. Last I heard their response was "this isn't broken because we don't know that it's a virtual network interface and we can't wait for ALL the network interfaces to come u

Re: Good article on systemd

2016-09-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/01/16 05:52, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 09/30/2016 01:47 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: >> Sam Varshavchik wrote: >>> ... This type of an intentional blind spot is quite typical, >>> inside the systemd reality distortion field. >> Comments like that are neither considerate or respectful, and are not

Re: Good article on systemd

2016-09-30 Thread Rick Stevens
On 09/30/2016 01:47 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: > Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> ... This type of an intentional blind spot is quite typical, >> inside the systemd reality distortion field. > > Comments like that are neither considerate or respectful, and are not > welcome in the fedora community. > > http

Re: Good article on systemd

2016-09-30 Thread Rex Dieter
Sam Varshavchik wrote: > ... This type of an intentional blind spot is quite typical, > inside the systemd reality distortion field. Comments like that are neither considerate or respectful, and are not welcome in the fedora community. https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct I encourage any moder

Re: Good article on systemd

2016-09-30 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Fri, 30 Sep 2016, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 13:31:39 -0400 > Justin Moore wrote: > > > Sadly I think the power company will fix the distribution > > infrastructure in our neighborhood before systemd gets this > > working correctly. > > But as you see, it already works correctly :

Re: Good article on systemd

2016-09-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/30/2016 11:37 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: to make the systemd fungus grow larger and larger and eventually engulph all programs everywhere. The time to start worrying is when you learn that your text editors are dependent on systemd. ___ users mail

Re: Good article on systemd

2016-09-30 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 13:31:39 -0400 Justin Moore wrote: > Sadly I think the power company will fix the distribution infrastructure in > our neighborhood before systemd gets this working correctly. But as you see, it already works correctly :-). The systemd developers believe that all services shou

Re: Good article on systemd

2016-09-30 Thread Justin Moore
> > Tom Horsley writes: > > On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 10:29:51 -0400 >> Saint Michael wrote: >> >> > In short, the most recent update to Centos7, makes Mariadb unable to >> start >> > in both versions that use systemd. >> > This affects millions of users. I had to replace my container for a >> Fedora >>

Re: Good article on systemd

2016-09-30 Thread Rick Stevens
On 09/30/2016 09:55 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Tom Horsley writes: > >> On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 10:29:51 -0400 >> Saint Michael wrote: >> >> > In short, the most recent update to Centos7, makes Mariadb unable to >> start >> > in both versions that use systemd. >> > This affects millions of users. I

Re: Good article on systemd

2016-09-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tom Horsley writes: On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 10:29:51 -0400 Saint Michael wrote: > In short, the most recent update to Centos7, makes Mariadb unable to start > in both versions that use systemd. > This affects millions of users. I had to replace my container for a Fedora > 22 one, and lower ,my vers

Re: Good article on systemd

2016-09-30 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 10:29:51 -0400 Saint Michael wrote: > In short, the most recent update to Centos7, makes Mariadb unable to start > in both versions that use systemd. > This affects millions of users. I had to replace my container for a Fedora > 22 one, and lower ,my version of Mariadb. > Does

Re: Good article on systemd

2016-09-30 Thread Saint Michael
The issue is systemd+mariadb. Anything higher than Fedora 22 may have the same issue. On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016, 8:31 AM Saint Michael wrote: > >> Systemd made me stop using Centos 7. >> https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-10925?page=com.

Re: Good article on systemd

2016-09-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Glenn Holmer writes: On 09/30/2016 07:41 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Pretty much says everything there is to say about systemd, in one > compact article: > > https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/how_to_crash_systemd_in_one_tweet https://medium.com/@davidtstrauss/how-to-throw-a-tantrum-in-one-blog-p

Re: Good article on systemd

2016-09-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016, 8:31 AM Saint Michael wrote: > Systemd made me stop using Centos 7. > > https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-10925?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Aall-tabpanel > In short, the most recent update to Centos7, makes Mariadb unable to start > in both versi

Re: Good article on systemd

2016-09-30 Thread Saint Michael
Systemd made me stop using Centos 7. https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-10925?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Aall-tabpanel In short, the most recent update to Centos7, makes Mariadb unable to start in both versions that use systemd. This affects millions of users. I had to

Re: Good article on systemd

2016-09-30 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 09/30/2016 07:41 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Pretty much says everything there is to say about systemd, in one > compact article: > > https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/how_to_crash_systemd_in_one_tweet https://medium.com/@davidtstrauss/how-to-throw-a-tantrum-in-one-blog-post-c2ccaa58661d#.8cem8

Good article on systemd

2016-09-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Pretty much says everything there is to say about systemd, in one compact article: https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/how_to_crash_systemd_in_one_tweet pgpsHJNeIUqF9.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.o