Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-16 Thread Beartooth
On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 11:40:05 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: > > > Quick definition: fora is the plural of forum, as in a web based forum > to discuss a topic or technology, like > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/. > > Having said that... > > I love mailing lists. I have filters set up they

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/11/2024 12:49 AM, Tim via users wrote: Joe Zeff wrote (about web forums): why don't you simply set as many of them as possible to email you when there's a reply? Have you noticed how many of them won't let you reply to an email notification? Essentially you get a "someone left you a mess

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-11 Thread Ranbir
On Sun, 2024-03-10 at 11:40 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: > > Am I the only one who feels this way? Has the day finally come where > I'm > just old and set in my ways? Are there others who prefer mailing > lists > to fora? > > To be clear, I am not bashing fora, per se - I'm just saying that for

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sun, 10 Mar 2024, 13:40 Thomas Cameron, wrote: > > I hate using fora. I generally have to open a separate tab for each > forum I'm on, and I'm on a LOT. And I have to go out of my way to even > remember all the fora I am a member of. For those of us who are members > of a bunch, it's kind of a

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-11 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2024-03-10 at 22:29 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > It shortly became clear that the user experience of interacting with > Discourse via email was significantly worse than a traditional mailing > list, so a bunch of us set up a new list > (evolution-us...@lists.osuosl.org) where we cont

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread Tim via users
Joe Zeff wrote (about web forums): > why don't you simply set as many of them as possible to email you > when there's a reply? Have you noticed how many of them won't let you reply to an email notification? Essentially you get a "someone left you a message" message, no details on what the messag

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2024-03-10 at 11:32 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > However, realize that you spend a long time setting all that up. > The subscriptions, filtering, how things look in your email client, etc. > For someone new or just wanting to ask a question or two, lists are > horrible. I say forums aren't

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread Tim via users
Thomas Cameron: >> I hate using fora. I generally have to open a separate tab for each >> forum I'm on, and I'm on a LOT. Joe Zeff: > Why keep a separate tab for each forum open at all times? How many of > them do you actually need to look at each day? Firstly, I thoroughly agree with all of T

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 11:40:05 AM -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: > > > Quick definition: fora is the plural of forum, as in a web based forum to > discuss a topic or technology, like https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/. > > Having said that... > > I love mailing lists. I have filters set up they

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-03-10 at 11:40 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: > I love mailing lists. I have filters set up they silently go to the > correct mail folder, I can read through them at my leisure, and I > only > have to deal with one client - my mail client. My mail client > defaults > to sane viewing r

Re: Email Balkanization (was Re: Fora vs. mailing lists)

2024-03-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 22:23:04 + Barry wrote: > You log in once only, the login is remembered in a cookie. > Just only and close the tab as needed. On some forums, not on others. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: Email Balkanization (was Re: Fora vs. mailing lists)

2024-03-10 Thread Barry
> On 10 Mar 2024, at 20:03, Thomas Cameron > wrote: > > Basically, the fora require you to open a browser/tab, log in, and only > *then* can you read your message You log in once only, the login is remembered in a cookie. Just only and close the tab as needed. Barry -- _

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread Barry
> On 10 Mar 2024, at 19:21, Thomas Cameron > wrote: > > For fora, I have to explicitly remember that I've even posted something > (which is often a problem due to the ADHD), then open a new browser or tab, > go to the forum, log in, find my message, and see if there are any responses > or w

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 21:19:27 +0100 wwp wrote: > Tried fora a a while when I was forced to and finally gave up with 80% > of them So who's working on a web forum/email interface that is totally independent of the web forum so the forum couldn't stop you from using email even if they wanted to? See

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread wwp
Hello Thomas, On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 11:40:05 -0500 Thomas Cameron wrote: > > > Quick definition: fora is the plural of forum, as in a web based forum to > discuss a topic or technology, like https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/. > > Having said that... > > I love mailing lists. I have filt

Re: Email Balkanization (was Re: Fora vs. mailing lists)

2024-03-10 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 3/10/24 14:17, Dave Close wrote: To me the analogy is, in the olden days, a company sending you postal mail in care of the local post office, the PO sending you a post card that something has arrived, and you having to go to the PO and show your identification to retrieve the item. No one woul

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/10/2024 01:46 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: On 3/10/24 14:39, Thomas Cameron wrote: ... but that's always the case with the myriad of fora which which I interact. Correction, I meant to write "that's not* always the case..." OK, fair enough. But you still don't need to keep tabs constant

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/10/2024 01:39 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: Where did I write that I did that at all? The Fedora forum *can* send emails, as Kevin pointed out, but that's always the case with the myriad of fora which which I interact. If so, as I pointed out before, you don't need to keep all of those tabs

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 3/10/24 14:39, Thomas Cameron wrote: ... but that's always the case with the myriad of fora which which I interact. Correction, I meant to write "that's not* always the case..." -- Thomas -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 3/10/24 14:32, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/10/2024 01:20 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: I'm not sure why you're refusing to understand my point here. Oh, I understand your point, I just think that you're going out of your way to make your life more difficult than it needs to be.  Instead of keeping

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/10/2024 01:20 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: I'm not sure why you're refusing to understand my point here. Oh, I understand your point, I just think that you're going out of your way to make your life more difficult than it needs to be. Instead of keeping each forum open on a tab and obses

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 3/10/24 13:32, Kevin Fenzi wrote: So, I agree with you about the push vs pull factor, so I interact with discussion.fedoraproject.org via email. 🙂 https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/guide-to-interacting-with-this-site-by-email/25960 You can decide what tags you want to 'subscribe' to, it

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 3/10/24 12:58, Joe Zeff wrote: You only need to have a tab open for a forum when you're actively using it.  Why are you going out of your way to make your life difficult? I'm not sure why you're refusing to understand my point here. It's that, in an email list, it's all in one place, and it

Email Balkanization (was Re: Fora vs. mailing lists)

2024-03-10 Thread Dave Close
Thomas Cameron wrote: > Well said. I'm in full agreement. I see a possibly related condition that also irritates me. The Balkanization of "email" (quotes deliberate). You want to send an email message to some company but you don't know their address. You check their web site and find a page, "sen

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread Charles Dennett
On 3/10/24 12:40, Thomas Cameron wrote: Am I the only one who feels this way? Has the day finally come where I'm just old and set in my ways? Are there others who prefer mailing lists to fora? I agree with all you said. I've been on the Internet a long time. Heck, anyone remember bang

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 11:40:05AM -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: > > > Quick definition: fora is the plural of forum, as in a web based forum to > discuss a topic or technology, like https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/. > > Having said that... > > I love mailing lists. I have filters set up th

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread Frank Bures
On 2024-03-10 12:40, Thomas Cameron wrote: Quick definition: fora is the plural of forum, as in a web based forum to discuss a topic or technology, like https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/. Having said that... I love mailing lists. I have filters set up they silently go to the correct ma

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/10/2024 11:14 AM, Thomas Cameron wrote: I'm not saying that. What I AM saying, is that every time I need to go to a forum, I have to open a separate tab. It's a pain. You only need to have a tab open for a forum when you're actively using it. Why are you going out of your way to make

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread Mike Wright
On 3/10/24 09:40, Thomas Cameron wrote: Quick definition: fora is the plural of forum, as in a web based forum to discuss a topic or technology, like https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/. Having said that... I love mailing lists. I have filters set up they silently go to the correct mail

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 3/10/24 12:04, Joe Zeff wrote: Why keep a separate tab for each forum open at all times?  How many of them do you actually need to look at each day? I'm not saying that. What I AM saying, is that every time I need to go to a forum, I have to open a separate tab. It's a pain. Also, if I

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/10/2024 10:40 AM, Thomas Cameron wrote: I hate using fora. I generally have to open a separate tab for each forum I'm on, and I'm on a LOT. Why keep a separate tab for each forum open at all times? How many of them do you actually need to look at each day? -- __

Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread Thomas Cameron
Quick definition: fora is the plural of forum, as in a web based forum to discuss a topic or technology, like https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/. Having said that... I love mailing lists. I have filters set up they silently go to the correct mail folder, I can read through them at my le