Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-27 Thread Mahmoud Abdul Jawad
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 3:07 AM, Ben Boeckel wrote: > > Don't they share a D-Bus API these days? > they do. On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > Why? Just use system dbus notifications and you're done. But as I suggested - > it > should be used only for critical notifi

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-26 Thread Hiisi
2010/8/26 Mahmoud Abdul Jawad : > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: <--SNIP--> > however, after seeing the big number of the alternative solutions, & > the bigger number of the disagreements, i'm going to stop for a while > before i make sure whether i should continue or not.

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-26 Thread Mahmoud Abdul Jawad
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 06:30 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > I have to agree with Kevin here (!). Employing a notification system in > parallel to the ones already provides by the desktop environment is a > total nonstarter. > in fact, your

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-25 Thread Genes MailLists
On 08/25/2010 02:03 PM, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > after spending two days reading the two fedora mailing lists (fedora > users & fedora devel), i got a list of ideas that need to be > implemented in order to keep the things up: > 1. the abililty to turn off the system > 2. smart notifications (m

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 21:54 +0400, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > > personally, see no benefit of adding something else to desktop that > will > > somewhere along the line be a potential problem. especially when > desktops, > > ie, kde, are always changing and in changing, breaking. > > that's why i

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-25 Thread Mahmoud Abdul Jawad
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:25 PM, g wrote: > On 08/25/2010 05:54 PM, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > > > thank you. > > great. now you are starting to get the idea behind what i and others > are trying to get across to you. > > it does not matter what your 'bit of wisdom' uses. if no one is for it,

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-25 Thread g
On 08/25/2010 06:03 PM, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > after spending two days reading the two fedora mailing lists (fedora > users & fedora devel), i got a list of ideas that need to be > implemented in order to keep the things up: > any issue about any of those points?? there you go again. leav

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-25 Thread g
On 08/25/2010 05:54 PM, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > i respect your opinions, thank you. > but, what is said - by you or by other users > - doesn't help. you are just blowing away the whole idea. great. now you are starting to get the idea behind what i and others are trying to get across to

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-25 Thread Mahmoud Abdul Jawad
after spending two days reading the two fedora mailing lists (fedora users & fedora devel), i got a list of ideas that need to be implemented in order to keep the things up: 1. the abililty to turn off the system 2. smart notifications (maybe multilanguage, geolocation-based, & time-aware notes) 3.

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-25 Thread Mahmoud Abdul Jawad
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:35 AM, g wrote: > On 08/24/2010 06:41 PM, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > > > > if you read back thru post, you will see that i did post a '+1' to point > made that i fully agree with and did not see need to write them all > over again. i respect your opinions, but, what

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-24 Thread g
On 08/24/2010 06:41 PM, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > thanx for the worthless discussion with you, g you are most welcome. > i guess your (ZERO) points about the application are very great, & i'm > going to implement them all. if you read back thru post, you will see that i did post a '+1' to

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-24 Thread Mahmoud Abdul Jawad
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Chris Smart wrote: > > Hey Mohmoud, > > Great idea, but I can't seem to clone the repo (remote hangs up).. > > -c > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/li

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-24 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday, August 24, 2010 18:59:08 Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:47 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > What a horrible idea. Please PLEASE don't make it the default, and > > certainly make sure I can yum remove it (because I *will* remove it). > > > > I get enough spam already,

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-24 Thread g
On 08/24/2010 05:59 PM, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > i guess you didn't read the wiki page, that's why you are saying this. and i guess you have never read links at bottom of each email sent to this tsl and is why you keep posting in html. > the problem is a large number of the newbies don't fo

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-24 Thread Mahmoud Abdul Jawad
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Michael Semcheski wrote: > > I think that in this context, there should be fewer, not more sources > for the information - perhaps an RSS feed that mirrors an announcement > list, and a twitter rebroadcast of the same. > > But I think highly specialized clients for

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-24 Thread Mahmoud Abdul Jawad
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Dj YB wrote: > > Totally agree, > > [Quote] > The Reason > A large number of Fedora users don't read the Fedora wiki & websites, thus, > they miss important news, tips & notifications. > [/Quote] > Perhaps the solution should be encouragement or even a guided sig

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-24 Thread Mahmoud Abdul Jawad
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:47 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > What a horrible idea. Please PLEASE don't make it the default, and > certainly make sure I can yum remove it (because I *will* remove it). > > I get enough spam already, I don't need yet another well-known way > for spammers to hack into my

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-24 Thread Mahmoud Abdul Jawad
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:51 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > It is virtually certain that my idea of "important" and > your idea of "important" and every else's idea of "important" > will be radically different. The most "important" feature yet another > annoying popup needs is the ability to utterly

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-24 Thread Michael Semcheski
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Alan Cox wrote: > If I want to know about Fedora announcements I can use the mailing list. > If I want to track Fedora goings on I can use RSS/ATOM feeds. > I imagine the Fedora powers that be can also set up a twitter account. I think that in this context, there

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-24 Thread Alessandro Brezzi
2010/8/24, Tim : > > On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 09:15 +0300, Dj YB wrote: > > Perhaps the solution should be encouragement or even a guided sign up > > to a mailing list during first log-in. > > Perhaps they don't read them because they don't want to... Pestering > people is just rude. > +1 -- Alessa

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-24 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 09:15 +0300, Dj YB wrote: > [Quote] > The Reason > A large number of Fedora users don't read the Fedora wiki & websites, > thus, they miss important news, tips & notifications. > [/Quote] > Perhaps the solution should be encouragement or even a guided sign up > to a mailing l

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-24 Thread A. Racca
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 20:47 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > On 08/23/2010 02:37 PM, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > > before two weeks, a discussion started in ambassadors mailing-list about > > a work around to deliver the important notifications to the fedora > > desktop (whatever the desktop is). > > W

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-24 Thread Alan Cox
> i would like to know, > 1. whether people would like to have a GUI for it or not, > 2. whether they want to be able to read the previous announcements, & > 3. whether they want the checking process automatically or manually. This seems a bit half baked as a concept. If I want to know about Fedo

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-23 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
On 08/24/2010 07:15 AM, Dj YB wrote: > > now I am not an expert about D-Bus notifications system, but as far as I know > this notifications last for short duration, and there is no way to read the > history (sort of speak) > so E-Mail sounds much better. > or perhaps a desktop widget that you can r

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-23 Thread Dj YB
On Tuesday August 24 2010 03:47:47 DJ Delorie wrote: > On 08/23/2010 02:37 PM, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > > before two weeks, a discussion started in ambassadors mailing-list about > > a work around to deliver the important notifications to the fedora > > desktop (whatever the desktop is). > > W

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-23 Thread g
On 08/24/2010 12:47 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > Besides, we already have a way to do this - it's called e-mail. > Or twitter. Or usenet. Or facebook. Or the web. Or IRC. Let people > choose whether to get notices or not, and how, don't force it down their > throats the way some big companies d

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-23 Thread g
On 08/23/2010 06:37 PM, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > Hi all,, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#No_HTML_Mail.2C_Please -- peace out. tc,hago. g . signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe o

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-23 Thread DJ Delorie
On 08/23/2010 02:37 PM, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > before two weeks, a discussion started in ambassadors mailing-list about > a work around to deliver the important notifications to the fedora > desktop (whatever the desktop is). What a horrible idea. Please PLEASE don't make it the default, an

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-23 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > Somehow this reminds me of the message boards they have > put in over I-95 in south Florida. They are also supposed > to be for "important" information, but all too often > whoever is in control of them puts completely irrelevant > messages on

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 22:37:15 +0400 Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > deliver the important notifications to the fedora desktop It is virtually certain that my idea of "important" and your idea of "important" and every else's idea of "important" will be radically different. The most "important" feature

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-23 Thread Chris Smart
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Chris Smart wrote: > > Hey Mohmoud, Sorry, "Mahmoud".. too early here. -c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.o

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-23 Thread Chris Smart
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:37 AM, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: > or, you can grab your own clone from the git repo: > git://fedorapeople.org/megenius/fns.git > Hey Mohmoud, Great idea, but I can't seem to clone the repo (remote hangs up).. -c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-23 Thread Mahmoud Abdul Jawad
Hi all,, before two weeks, a discussion started in ambassadors mailing-list about a work around to deliver the important notifications to the fedora desktop (whatever the desktop is). after some discussion, we started with some guide lines & putted them on the wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/