Re: Fedora 17 Gnome 3 Desperate Plea

2012-12-31 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 10:00:41PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > GNOME is not interested in their userbase and was never really In your view. > so use KDE which is after the 4.0 disaster now really fine again > sad that the ignorant GNOME developers did not learn from what > happened with KDE 4.0

Re: Fedora 17 Gnome 3 Desperate Plea

2012-12-30 Thread Lailah
: > On 12/29/2012 01:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > so use KDE which is after the 4.0 disaster now really fine again > > sad that the ignorant GNOME developers did not learn from what > > happened with KDE 4.0 release for the userbase and made it even > > worser, the definition of stupidity is no

Re: Fedora 17 Gnome 3 Desperate Plea

2012-12-30 Thread Lailah
El sáb, 29-12-2012 a las 22:00 +0100, Reindl Harald escribió: > > Am 29.12.2012 21:05, schrieb Mika Suomalainen: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA512 > > > > On 29.12.2012 20:57, Thomas Dineen wrote: > >> > >> Please, Please, Please if you must keep Gnome 3 then Keep the > >

Re: Fedora 17 Gnome 3 Desperate Plea

2012-12-30 Thread Lailah
Hi, Happy New Year! You can install any of the other desktop spins like KDE, XFCE & LXDE. And, plus of that, you can install a lot of other desktops like Cinnamon, Mate and Razor, aside of what you already have. Feel free of try and choose what you like most. Regards, Lailah

Re: Fedora 17 Gnome 3 Desperate Plea

2012-12-29 Thread Mark Bradbury
On 30 December 2012 04:27, Thomas Dineen wrote: > > 1) The on screen menus, located at the top left of the screen, seem very > dark, to > the point of being almost unreadable. Keep in mind it is not just the > monitor, an HP > w2408h, in that the computer shares the monitor with three others via

Re: Fedora 17 Gnome 3 Desperate Plea

2012-12-29 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2012-12-29 at 22:37 +0200, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: > 2012/12/29 Mika Suomalainen : > > I (or actually not me, but many people whom I know) have another > > problem with GNOME3, they don't know how to halt the computer > > properly, because the "Shutdown" button is hidden behind the menu in

Re: Fedora 17 Gnome 3 Desperate Plea

2012-12-29 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/29/2012 01:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: so use KDE which is after the 4.0 disaster now really fine again sad that the ignorant GNOME developers did not learn from what happened with KDE 4.0 release for the userbase and made it even worser, the definition of stupidity is not to learn from mis

Re: Fedora 17 Gnome 3 Desperate Plea

2012-12-29 Thread Alan Cox
> > 2) Periodically parts of the screen, typically the area contained by the > boundaries of menu > entries will go all wankers, looking like a 1960's TV on an antenna that > has lost horizontal > sync. > > 3) Periodically the letters of the menus become a garbled to the point > of being unre

Re: Fedora 17 Gnome 3 Desperate Plea

2012-12-29 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.12.2012 21:05, schrieb Mika Suomalainen: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 29.12.2012 20:57, Thomas Dineen wrote: >> >> Please, Please, Please if you must keep Gnome 3 then Keep the >> "Fall Back Mode" in ALL future versions of Fedora. Otherwise to me >> Fedora wou

Re: Fedora 17 Gnome 3 Desperate Plea

2012-12-29 Thread Joonas Sarajärvi
2012/12/29 Mika Suomalainen : > I (or actually not me, but many people whom I know) have another > problem with GNOME3, they don't know how to halt the computer > properly, because the "Shutdown" button is hidden behind the menu in > top-right and you must press "alt" to access the option. Fortuna

Re: Fedora 17 Gnome 3 Desperate Plea

2012-12-29 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 29.12.2012 20:57, Thomas Dineen wrote: > > Please, Please, Please if you must keep Gnome 3 then Keep the > "Fall Back Mode" in ALL future versions of Fedora. Otherwise to me > Fedora would be unusable. I don't think that the "fallback mode" will

Re: Fedora 17 Gnome 3 Desperate Plea

2012-12-29 Thread Steven Stern
On 12/29/2012 12:57 PM, Thomas Dineen wrote: > Gentle People: > >A heartfelt plea from a user: > > Please, Please, Please if you must keep Gnome 3 then > Keep the "Fall Back Mode" in ALL future versions of Fedora. > Otherwise to me Fedora would be unusable. > >Please read the justificati

Fedora 17 Gnome 3 Desperate Plea

2012-12-29 Thread Thomas Dineen
Gentle People: A heartfelt plea from a user: Please, Please, Please if you must keep Gnome 3 then Keep the "Fall Back Mode" in ALL future versions of Fedora. Otherwise to me Fedora would be unusable. Please read the justification below: I just installed, last night, Fedora 17, on a