On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 15:44:20 -0500
"Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak" wrote:
>
> I found the old style of unit scripts to be a pain in the ass. I'm
> not sure why people think it was so great.
>
> And "systemd-analyze plot > plot.svg; eog plot.svg" is the best tool
> ever...
Hmmm, Fedora esoterica
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 15:00:09 -0500
"David A. De Graaf" wrote:
> Here's why Fedora 16 isn't ready for prime time.
> Many of these have been BZ'd, without effect.
>
I was a tad frustrated with systemd for a time and realized that it was
just an old-dog-new-trick issue. I'm an old fart. Once you f
On 11 January 2012 20:00, David A. De Graaf wrote:
> Here's why Fedora 16 isn't ready for prime time.
> Many of these have been BZ'd, without effect.
>
And most are not 'instabilities', not aware of any system release that
hasn't had some problems, some are problems with particular programmes
rat
On 01/12/2012 10:07 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 12.01.2012 15:42, schrieb Ed Greshko:
Come on people..
Don't you just hate it when someone puts out a list of vague grievances
and then doesn't engage in the conversation they've created?
Isn't there a word for that?
yes, it is known as "bu
Am 12.01.2012 15:42, schrieb Ed Greshko:
> Come on people..
>
> Don't you just hate it when someone puts out a list of vague grievances
> and then doesn't engage in the conversation they've created?
>
> Isn't there a word for that?
yes, it is known as "buggy"
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On 01/12/2012 04:42 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
Come on people..
Don't you just hate it when someone puts out a list of vague grievances
and then doesn't engage in the conversation they've created?
Isn't there a word for that?
Err...troll? Of course. Wasted time.
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Come on people..
Don't you just hate it when someone puts out a list of vague grievances
and then doesn't engage in the conversation they've created?
Isn't there a word for that?
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On 01/11/2012 06:41 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
The only real problems I've had with f16 is the one recently
discussed in another thread about the kernel problem with
heavy disk I/O from one process bogging down everything
else on the system. I was using mencoder the other day to
convert a .wmv file t
> > - The worst aspect of Fedora 16 is it has made computing a stochastic
> >process. Instead of the rock-solid behaviour of previous releases,
> >Fedora 16 behaves randomly.
On the specific boxes you have (not a statistically valid sample).
On my boxes for example 16 is way better than 1
On 01/11/2012 10:00 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote:
Here's why Fedora 16 isn't ready for prime time.
Many of these have been BZ'd, without effect.
- I won't even discuss the gnome3 controversy. I've used xfce for
many years and am very happy with it.
Good for you.
- The worst aspect of Fedora
On 01/12/2012 04:44 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
explanation of what's so much better about systemd I'd be glad to follow
it and learn, but it's not urgent enough for me to go hunting and
weeding out all of the blind leads.
http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/why.html summarizes it pretty
The only real problems I've had with f16 is the one recently
discussed in another thread about the kernel problem with
heavy disk I/O from one process bogging down everything
else on the system. I was using mencoder the other day to
convert a .wmv file to a big .avi file for simpler editing,
and wh
On 01/12/2012 04:39 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
>> - Libreoffice insists on making files inaccessible via nfs.
>>A workaround is to edit /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice to
>>comment out these two lines:
>> ## SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING=1 ## export SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING
>>
On 01/12/2012 04:00 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote:
> Here's why Fedora 16 isn't ready for prime time.
> Many of these have been BZ'd, without effect.
Would you kindly supply the bugzilla # for each one that has been
reported?
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On Wed, 2012-01-11 at 15:44 -0500, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
> > I'm wondering if it was pushed into Fedora too soon. Of course, Fedora's
> > a test-bed for new things, but I'm not sure systemd was ready for such a
> > wide-spread beta test. If anybody happens to have a link to an
> > explan
On 01/11/2012 04:37 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 01/11/2012 12:57 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
The perl script for for fixing uid/gid numbering is below.
Thanx. I've saved it, and your instructions for future use. I presume
that this has to be done as root, although you didn't mention it.
Y
On 01/11/2012 12:57 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
The perl script for for fixing uid/gid numbering is below.
Thanx. I've saved it, and your instructions for future use. I presume
that this has to be done as root, although you didn't mention it.
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On 01/11/2012 12:44 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/why.html summarizes it pretty well.
The post includes a huge list of things that systemd does that
systemvinit and Upstart don't do. However, as all of those things got
done during boot anyway, that ju
On 01/11/2012 03:45 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 01/11/2012 12:39 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
Yes it is, but that's easily fixed with a one-time script. I can send
you a sample perl script if you need one.
As I've mentioned elsewhere, when I upgrade my machine I'll move to a 64
bit system an
On 01/11/2012 12:39 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
Yes it is, but that's easily fixed with a one-time script. I can send
you a sample perl script if you need one.
As I've mentioned elsewhere, when I upgrade my machine I'll move to a 64
bit system and deal with the UID issue. I have three
I'm wondering if it was pushed into Fedora too soon. Of course, Fedora's
a test-bed for new things, but I'm not sure systemd was ready for such a
wide-spread beta test. If anybody happens to have a link to an
explanation of what's so much better about systemd I'd be glad to follow
it and learn, bu
On 01/11/2012 12:26 PM, Jesse Palser wrote:
Been running Windows(R) 7 Home Premium 64Bit for almost a year with zero
problems.
Its really not that bad anymore...
Damning with faint praise, indeed.
Seriously, from what I gather, Win7 is far, far better than Vista.
Joanne Dow and I have a frien
- Changing UID's to start at 1000 instead of 500 is just annoying.
Yes it is, but that's easily fixed with a one-time script. I can send
you a sample perl script if you need one.
- With earlier kernels, skype was merely unreliable, sometimes with no
microphone, sometimes no sound, someti
On 01/11/2012 03:26 PM, Jesse Palser wrote:
There is always Microsoft(R) Windows(R)
I ran Linux for about two years natively on my main desktop.
(first was Linux Mint, then Ubuntu, then Xubuntu after the switch to
Unity Desktop)
Been running Windows(R) 7 Home Premium 64Bit for almost a year w
On 01/11/2012 12:00 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote:
- The systemd system has replaced the simple and easily understood
sysv init system with a jumbled mess.
Right now, I don't understand why the decision was made to make this
change. From where I sit, it's beginning to look like change for it
There is always Microsoft(R) Windows(R)
I ran Linux for about two years natively on my main desktop.
(first was Linux Mint, then Ubuntu, then Xubuntu after the switch to
Unity Desktop)
Been running Windows(R) 7 Home Premium 64Bit for almost a year with zero
problems.
Its really not that bad
Here's why Fedora 16 isn't ready for prime time.
Many of these have been BZ'd, without effect.
- I won't even discuss the gnome3 controversy. I've used xfce for
many years and am very happy with it.
- The worst aspect of Fedora 16 is it has made computing a stochastic
process. Instead of t
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