Re: F25 Wayland & environment variables

2016-12-07 Thread Nadav Har'El
> On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 07:12:57PM -0700, stan wrote: > Well, architecture in the abstract is one thing — it's gotta hit the > real world for feedback at some point. The bug we're discussing now - not reading ~/.profile - has been known for 2 years. Nobody had to wait for "real world feedback"

Re: F25 Wayland & environment variables

2016-12-07 Thread Nadav Har'El
> On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 15:48:06 +0200 > Ahmad Samir wrote: > > Which sounds to me like their highest priority is > inventing an excuse to do it anyway, but they > are desperately searching for an excuse that > isn't lame :-). Exactly. Reading the upstream bug report, I get exactly this impression: T

Re: F25 Wayland & environment variables

2016-12-05 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 11:17:40 -0500 On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 07:12:57PM -0700, stan wrote: > keymapping. That's a show stopper for me, since I haven't used qwerty > in so long that it's hunt and peck for me now. It seems that more and > more, Fedora is following the open source dictum, 'Release

Re: F25 Wayland & environment variables

2016-12-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 07:12:57PM -0700, stan wrote: > keymapping. That's a show stopper for me, since I haven't used qwerty > in so long that it's hunt and peck for me now. It seems that more and > more, Fedora is following the open source dictum, 'Release early, > release often', and getting t

Re: F25 Wayland & environment variables

2016-12-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 15:48:06 +0200 Ahmad Samir wrote: > Not going to close this until we have a credible story... Which sounds to me like their highest priority is inventing an excuse to do it anyway, but they are desperately searching for an excuse that isn't lame :-). ___

Re: F25 Wayland & environment variables

2016-12-03 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 3 December 2016 at 03:28, Tom Horsley wrote: >> Check this upstream bug for details: >> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736660 >> >> -- >> >> Ahmad, >> >> Thank you for the link. That surely explains the problem. Looks like

Re: F25 Wayland & environment variables

2016-12-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2016-12-03 at 08:04 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 00:40:49 -0800 > Joe Zeff wrote: > > > If that's how you feel, why are you still using Gnome? > > I'm not. I'm using FVWM with a .fvwmrc file that I don't > change every release to hide everything I used to know > about :-

Re: F25 Wayland & environment variables

2016-12-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 00:40:49 -0800 Joe Zeff wrote: > If that's how you feel, why are you still using Gnome? I'm not. I'm using FVWM with a .fvwmrc file that I don't change every release to hide everything I used to know about :-). But the problem is that as "the one true way" engulphs everything e

Re: F25 Wayland & environment variables

2016-12-03 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/02/2016 05:28 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: Gee, once the gnome developers get everything to the state of perfect flawlessness they are seeking, it will be impossible to actually use a computer to do any work. If that's how you feel, why are you still using Gnome? ___

Re: F25 Wayland & environment variables

2016-12-02 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
Gee, once the gnome developers get everything to the state of perfect flawlessness they are seeking, it will be impossible to actually use a computer to do any work. Gnome should be on its way out. There is already an 8 year old bug about not being able to control the X server options(1). Now th

Re: F25 Wayland & environment variables

2016-12-02 Thread stan
On Fri, 02 Dec 2016 19:11:46 -0600 "Gregory P. Ennis" wrote: > Ahmad, > > Thank you for the link.  That surely explains the problem. Looks like > environment variables are on their way out. > > Too Bad the Wayland developers did not take into account environment > variables. I am surprised Fe

Re: F25 Wayland & environment variables

2016-12-02 Thread Tom Horsley
> Check this upstream bug for details: > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736660 > > -- > > Ahmad, > > Thank you for the link.  That surely explains the problem. Looks like > environment variables are on their way out. Gee, o

Re: F25 Wayland & environment variables

2016-12-02 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
> > Everyone, > > I started having difficulty with some environment variables > that were > stored with the use of /etc/profile with X11. > > When using > Wayland these environment variables do not get stored at the > time of > login. Works fine when I change the gui to X11. > > Is there a dif

Re: F25 Wayland & environment variables

2016-12-02 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 2 December 2016 at 23:28, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > Everyone, > > I started having difficulty with some environment variables that were > stored with the use of /etc/profile with X11. > > When using Wayland these environment variables do not get stored at the > time of login. Works fine when I

F25 Wayland & environment variables

2016-12-02 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
Everyone, I started having difficulty with some environment variables that were stored with the use of /etc/profile with X11. When using Wayland these environment variables do not get stored at the time of login. Works fine when I change the gui to X11. Is there a different place environment va