Re: F19 no longer includes OpenJDK7-jre in the LiveCD :-(

2013-07-21 Thread David
On 7/21/2013 5:40 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 7:35 AM, David wrote: >> most people don't need Java so it's space was >> replaced with something useful to many. > > Please dont confuse "needing Java" with that myopic/biased view of > "Java as applets". > > There's plenty

Re: F19 no longer includes OpenJDK7-jre in the LiveCD :-(

2013-07-21 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 7:35 AM, David wrote: > most people don't need Java so it's space was > replaced with something useful to many. Please dont confuse "needing Java" with that myopic/biased view of "Java as applets". There's plenty of useful cross platform Java apps out there. I can think o

Re: F19 no longer includes OpenJDK7-jre in the LiveCD :-(

2013-07-21 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 21:29:55 -0300 Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 6:36 PM, David wrote: > > So what you are complaining about is that the people that made the > > Xfce ISO did not build it exactly to your, personal specifications? > > Really? How dare them to not build one just

Re: F19 no longer includes OpenJDK7-jre in the LiveCD :-(

2013-07-21 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 15:46:12 -0400 Fernando Cassia wrote: > No, apparently there is no Java at all on the liveCD... :-( I assume you mean the Xfce live media here... there's lots of Fedora LiveCd's. ;) > $ java > bash: java: command not found > [liveuser@localhost ~]$ > > I got used to bootin

Re: F19 no longer includes OpenJDK7-jre in the LiveCD :-(

2013-07-20 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:06 PM, nomnex wrote: > > Well, thanks Fernando. I too was used to see OpenJDK include in the > live CD by force of habit. Good to know I wasn't the only one. FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act - George Orwell -- users

Re: F19 no longer includes OpenJDK7-jre in the LiveCD :-(

2013-07-20 Thread David
On 7/19/2013 8:29 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 6:36 PM, David wrote: >> So what you are complaining about is that the people that made the Xfce >> ISO did not build it exactly to your, personal specifications? Really? >> How dare them to not build one just for you!! > > No

Re: F19 no longer includes OpenJDK7-jre in the LiveCD :-(

2013-07-20 Thread Jiri Vanek
On 07/20/2013 02:29 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 6:36 PM, David wrote: So what you are complaining about is that the people that made the Xfce ISO did not build it exactly to your, personal specifications? Really? How dare them to not build one just for you!! No, re-read

Re: F19 no longer includes OpenJDK7-jre in the LiveCD :-(

2013-07-19 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 6:36 PM, David wrote: > So what you are complaining about is that the people that made the Xfce > ISO did not build it exactly to your, personal specifications? Really? > How dare them to not build one just for you!! No, re-read my message. Im saying that OpenJDK was part

Re: F19 no longer includes OpenJDK7-jre in the LiveCD :-(

2013-07-19 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 15:27:15 -0400, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Desktop team manages the live cd. Several packages were dropped in the last minute due to space limitations The ISO isn't even 700MB! Why are they still using 650MB appare

Re: F19 no longer includes OpenJDK7-jre in the LiveCD :-(

2013-07-19 Thread nomnex
> On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:47:12 -0400 > Fernando Cassia wrote: > > Apparently the RPMs are 29MB compressed, including all deps... > > # yum install java-1.7.0-openjdk > Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks > Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile Well, thanks Fernando. I too was used to s

Re: F19 no longer includes OpenJDK7-jre in the LiveCD :-(

2013-07-19 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > For example the OpenJDK 8 version might have been picked up. (I didn't check > to see if that was what happened, but rather it is a plausible cause that > might have changed things without any of the XFCE guys noticing.) No, apparently the

Re: F19 no longer includes OpenJDK7-jre in the LiveCD :-(

2013-07-19 Thread David
On 7/19/2013 3:13 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > Who was the genius who decided Fedora 19 XFCE should no longer include > the OpenJDK 7 JRE like F18 did?. > > This causes me lots of hassle. > :-( > > FC > So what you are complaining about is that the people that made the Xfce ISO did not build i

Re: F19 no longer includes OpenJDK7-jre in the LiveCD :-(

2013-07-19 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > F19 XFCE ISO image: > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK > Length: 616562688 (588M) [application/x-iso9660-image] Apparently the RPMs are 29MB compressed, including all deps... # yum install java-1.7.0-openjdk Loaded plugins:

Re: F19 no longer includes OpenJDK7-jre in the LiveCD :-(

2013-07-19 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 15:13:14 -0400, Fernando Cassia wrote: Who was the genius who decided Fedora 19 XFCE should no longer include the OpenJDK 7 JRE like F18 did?. You are not being excellent. This causes me lots of hassle. You can build your own custom live images relatively easily

Re: F19 no longer includes OpenJDK7-jre in the LiveCD :-(

2013-07-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 15:27:15 -0400 Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram > wrote: > > Desktop team manages the live cd. Several packages were dropped > > in the last minute due to space limitations > > The ISO isn't even 700MB! Why are they still using 650MB

Re: F19 no longer includes OpenJDK7-jre in the LiveCD :-(

2013-07-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi Oh, I see you did and I missed that. In any case, Xfce target is CD Size Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guid

Re: F19 no longer includes OpenJDK7-jre in the LiveCD :-(

2013-07-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > The ISO isn't even 700MB! Why are they still using 650MB apparently as > the CD size? > You never mentioned that you were using the Xfce image and yes, Xfce still targets CD size Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproj

Re: F19 no longer includes OpenJDK7-jre in the LiveCD :-(

2013-07-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > Who was the genius who decided Fedora 19 XFCE should no longer include > the OpenJDK 7 JRE like F18 did?. > > This causes me lots of hassle. > Desktop team manages the live cd. Several packages were dropped in the last minute due to

Re: F19 no longer includes OpenJDK7-jre in the LiveCD :-(

2013-07-19 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Desktop team manages the live cd. Several packages were dropped in the last > minute due to space limitations The ISO isn't even 700MB! Why are they still using 650MB apparently as the CD size? F19 XFCE ISO image: HTTP request sent, await

F19 no longer includes OpenJDK7-jre in the LiveCD :-(

2013-07-19 Thread Fernando Cassia
Who was the genius who decided Fedora 19 XFCE should no longer include the OpenJDK 7 JRE like F18 did?. This causes me lots of hassle. :-( FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un