Re: F17 XDMCP

2012-07-03 Thread Ken Smith
Gordon Messmer wrote: On 07/02/2012 07:08 AM, Ken Smith wrote: I would suggest deprecated as the settings for the function have been buried. It suppose it depends on how you define deprecated. No, they haven't. They're still in custom.conf, where they've been for some time. The burie

Re: F17 XDMCP

2012-07-03 Thread Ken Smith
Gordon Messmer wrote: {snip} It sounds like the X server is crashing or locking up. Try this: Reset the machine running the X server. Possibly reset the F17 host as well, since it's complaining about too many sessions from your X server host. When you run X -query, capture data using s

Re: F17 XDMCP

2012-07-02 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/02/2012 07:08 AM, Ken Smith wrote: I would suggest deprecated as the settings for the function have been buried. It suppose it depends on how you define deprecated. No, they haven't. They're still in custom.conf, where they've been for some time. The buried settings discussed earlier

Re: F17 XDMCP

2012-07-02 Thread Ken Smith
Gordon Messmer wrote: On 06/29/2012 05:57 AM, Ken Smith wrote: I still don't understand why deprecating XDMCP furthers the Open Source cause. Guys, slow down. There's no reason to believe that XCMCP has been deprecated. It can be enabled exactly as it was in the previous release. It loo

Re: F17 XDMCP

2012-06-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/29/2012 05:57 AM, Ken Smith wrote: I still don't understand why deprecating XDMCP furthers the Open Source cause. Guys, slow down. There's no reason to believe that XCMCP has been deprecated. It can be enabled exactly as it was in the previous release. It looks like there's a bug th

Re: F17 XDMCP

2012-06-29 Thread Robert Myers
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Ken Smith wrote: > ** > > > I understand what Robert is meaning especially exporting apps rather than > whole desktops. > > But I was attempting to get some hands on experience of F17 via a Virtual > Machine installation. The VNC based window from the VM is only

Re: F17 XDMCP

2012-06-29 Thread Ken Smith
Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote: On 06/26/2012 04:19 PM, Robert Myers wrote: {snip} I have more than a hint and guidance. I have emphatic advice. Stop trying to import and export desktops, no matter the system. Import and export windows or create virtual machines, but do not ever under any

Re: F17 XDMCP

2012-06-28 Thread Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I
On 06/26/2012 04:19 PM, Robert Myers wrote: On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Ken Smith > wrote: Hi, I in danger of making this a rant, but is XDMCP no longer something that Fedora supports? gives? Thanks for any hints and guidance. I have more th

Re: F17 XDMCP

2012-06-26 Thread Ken Smith
Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/26/2012 09:54 PM, Ken Smith wrote: {snip} user accessible then installing a service should enable and start it. {snip} Well, IMO, server software should default to disabled. It is not unusual for users (novices and even experienced) to install server side so

Re: F17 XDMCP

2012-06-26 Thread Ken Smith
Alan Cox wrote: {snip} how does removing XDMCP functionality further Fedora's cause? It's not a Fedora thing, it's a Gnome thing. Fedora ships several other display managers all of which do xdmcp just fine. In appreciate that its a Gnome thing Thanks Ken -- This message has bee

Re: F17 XDMCP

2012-06-26 Thread Robert Myers
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Ken Smith wrote: > Hi, I in danger of making this a rant, but is XDMCP no longer something > that Fedora supports? > > gives? > > > Thanks for any hints and guidance. > I have more than a hint and guidance. I have emphatic advice. Stop trying to import and e

Re: F17 XDMCP

2012-06-26 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/25/2012 02:27 PM, Ken Smith wrote: Oddly, on my remote X server when I run "X -query machinename :1" the desktop of the remote X server freezes when connecting to this rogue F17 install. I noticed the same thing when I tried to use F17 as the XDMCP server for a CentOS 6 X11 display. I d

Re: F17 XDMCP

2012-06-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/26/2012 09:54 PM, Ken Smith wrote: > Installing xrdp installed the package but it arrived disabled in systemd - > grrr: a > tad user aggressive - if the aim is to make Fedora more user accessible then > installing a service should enable and start it. It fails to show up in the > "Service Co

Re: F17 XDMCP

2012-06-26 Thread poma
On 06/26/2012 12:35 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/26/2012 05:27 AM, Ken Smith wrote: >> I have just installed F17 x64 in a VM to tinker with it and systemd and I'd >> like to >> enable XDMCP. Or what is the favoured remote access method these days. > > What are your requirements for remote acces

Re: F17 XDMCP

2012-06-26 Thread Alan Cox
> I have been used to using XDMCP with *nix systems for years it seems a > pity to remove the function that could/might be kept. I could ask the > question the other way, how does removing XDMCP functionality further > Fedora's cause? It's not a Fedora thing, it's a Gnome thing. Fedora ships se

Re: F17 XDMCP

2012-06-26 Thread Ken Smith
Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/26/2012 05:27 AM, Ken Smith wrote: I have just installed F17 x64 in a VM to tinker with it and systemd and I'd like to enable XDMCP. Or what is the favoured remote access method these days. What are your requirements for remote access? Is there something mis

Re: F17 XDMCP

2012-06-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/26/2012 05:27 AM, Ken Smith wrote: > I have just installed F17 x64 in a VM to tinker with it and systemd and I'd > like to > enable XDMCP. Or what is the favoured remote access method these days. What are your requirements for remote access? Is there something missing from using VNC or xr

Re: F17 XDMCP

2012-06-26 Thread Alan Cox
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:27:34 +0100 Ken Smith wrote: > Hi, I in danger of making this a rant, but is XDMCP no longer something > that Fedora supports? It's not properly been supported in Fedora for years but it does work most releases. See /etc/dconf/db/gdm.d/00-upstream-settings then go read

F17 XDMCP

2012-06-25 Thread Ken Smith
Hi, I in danger of making this a rant, but is XDMCP no longer something that Fedora supports? I have just installed F17 x64 in a VM to tinker with it and systemd and I'd like to enable XDMCP. Or what is the favoured remote access method these days. I've put DisallowTCP=0 in the [security] se