Re: Export restrictions legalese in Fedora scare would-be local mirror

2012-07-26 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > , I think the normal site sheesh, can't write before my morning coffee. I meant "the main site". FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailma

Re: Export restrictions legalese in Fedora scare would-be local mirror

2012-07-26 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > Nice work! Let's not open the champagne until the mirror is formal and announced. Just looked and they seem to have run out of space while populating the mirror, apparently they did a rsync of F1* so they got from 10 to 15 :). I have now email

Re: Export restrictions legalese in Fedora scare would-be local mirror

2012-07-25 Thread Ian Malone
On 23 July 2012 15:28, Fernando Cassia wrote: > My half-italian genes kicked in and I wrote a somewhat unpolite email > telling "oh rly?" ;) and pointing at export restrictions legalese in > the apache.org site too (that they mirror), along with the CentOS > discussion. > > Result: he apologized

Re: Export restrictions legalese in Fedora scare would-be local mirror

2012-07-23 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:20 PM, jdow wrote: > > Remember what the old saw said about Yankee traders that they'd sell you > the rope to hang them with? Well, if you think about it the Open Source > ethos is to give them that rope with the source and instructions to make > more rope. This strikes m

Re: Export restrictions legalese in Fedora scare would-be local mirror

2012-07-23 Thread Eddie O'Connor
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > Just got a reply from a local would-be mirror telling me they > discarded Fedora from the local Linux mirror lists because of the > "export restrictions" > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Export > http://fedoraunity.org/export-restri

Re: Export restrictions legalese in Fedora scare would-be local mirror

2012-07-23 Thread jdow
On 2012/07/23 07:32, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Andy Blanchard wrote: Alternatively, they *are* a telco, and a state-owned one at that - not exactly a combination known for adopting a flexible approach! we´ve lived it all... state owned monopoly (service sucks),

Re: Export restrictions legalese in Fedora scare would-be local mirror

2012-07-23 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Questions about the export restrictions should probably be posted to > the legal list instead: > > le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/legal Thanks Paul. Hopefully the issue has been solved. (t

Re: Export restrictions legalese in Fedora scare would-be local mirror

2012-07-23 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Andy Blanchard wrote: > Bravo! Have a Fedora Community Gold Star award! > > OK, I made that up, but personally getting a new mirror established in an > area where there are not a great deal to choose from in the first place at > least deserves some kind of honera

Re: Export restrictions legalese in Fedora scare would-be local mirror

2012-07-23 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:41:55AM -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > Just got a reply from a local would-be mirror telling me they > discarded Fedora from the local Linux mirror lists because of the > "export restrictions" > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Export > http://fedoraunity.org/expor

Re: Export restrictions legalese in Fedora scare would-be local mirror

2012-07-23 Thread Andy Blanchard
> > Result: he apologized and told me there would be a local mirror during > the week. :) > I also suggested them they could mirror it from Chilean or Brazilian > existing mirrors so there would be no connection to US based > servers... > Bravo! Have a Fedora Community Gold Star award! OK, I ma

Re: Export restrictions legalese in Fedora scare would-be local mirror

2012-07-23 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Andy Blanchard wrote: > Alternatively, they *are* a telco, and a state-owned one at that - not > exactly a combination known for adopting a flexible approach! we´ve lived it all... state owned monopoly (service sucks), privatized monopoly (prices suck), and now t

Re: Export restrictions legalese in Fedora scare would-be local mirror

2012-07-23 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Andy Blanchard wrote: > Maybe, having pointed out that they continue to host CentOS/Debian, you > could request clarification of what makes them exempt and take it from > there? > > Alternatively, they *are* a telco, and a state-owned one at that - not > exactly a

Re: Export restrictions legalese in Fedora scare would-be local mirror

2012-07-23 Thread Andy Blanchard
I also call that they are full of it on grounds that they continue to host Debian and CentOS. The question is whether "it" is just paranoia or something else... Argentina (presumably your local mirror is hosted in the same geographic locale as their ccTLD) is not currently listed in the Export Ad

Export restrictions legalese in Fedora scare would-be local mirror

2012-07-23 Thread Fernando Cassia
Just got a reply from a local would-be mirror telling me they discarded Fedora from the local Linux mirror lists because of the "export restrictions" http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Export http://fedoraunity.org/export-restrictions However, they carry Debian and CentOS, implying that the same