Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/09/2013 11:34 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: yes and that is what i tried to explain before Tim drove crazy and called me an asshole. Maybe if you had simply said what you meant that wouldn't have happened. Instead, you responded in a rude and arrogant manner, refused to explain

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-10 Thread poma
On 10.04.2013 12:07, Harald Hoyer wrote: > Am 10.04.2013 10:55, schrieb poma: >> On 10.04.2013 10:07, Harald Hoyer wrote: >> >>> Well, the strategy here is to mount /boot and save any files there for later >>> inspection. /boot is chosen, because it's a simple partition. >> >> *boot* *simple* >> On

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-10 Thread Harald Hoyer
Am 10.04.2013 10:55, schrieb poma: > On 10.04.2013 10:07, Harald Hoyer wrote: > >> Well, the strategy here is to mount /boot and save any files there for later >> inspection. /boot is chosen, because it's a simple partition. > > *boot* *simple* > Only if you follow Fedora's install guidance. :) >

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-10 Thread poma
On 10.04.2013 08:34, Reindl Harald wrote: > yes and that is what i tried to explain before Tim drove crazy > and called me an asshole. And now you're the one who has offended!? :) Hilarious. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-10 Thread poma
On 10.04.2013 10:07, Harald Hoyer wrote: > Well, the strategy here is to mount /boot and save any files there for later > inspection. /boot is chosen, because it's a simple partition. *boot* *simple* Only if you follow Fedora's install guidance. :) poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedor

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-10 Thread Harald Hoyer
Am 10.04.2013 07:00, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 04/09/2013 08:03 PM, Robert Nichols wrote: >> When you are at the "dracut:/#" prompt, you are still running from the >> initramfs, probably without even the normal root filesystem mounted, and >> "~" resolves to the root directory in the initramfs. Stori

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.04.2013 07:00, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 04/09/2013 08:03 PM, Robert Nichols wrote: >> When you are at the "dracut:/#" prompt, you are still running from the >> initramfs, probably without even the normal root filesystem mounted, and >> "~" resolves to the root directory in the initramfs. Sto

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/09/2013 08:03 PM, Robert Nichols wrote: When you are at the "dracut:/#" prompt, you are still running from the initramfs, probably without even the normal root filesystem mounted, and "~" resolves to the root directory in the initramfs. Storing anything there would be pointless. The only

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-09 Thread Robert Nichols
On 04/09/2013 03:14 AM, Tim wrote: Tim: The tilde refers to your homespace. So, for whoever's logged on, a file path like this ~/example.text refers to an example.text file in the root of *their* homespace. Richard Vickery: You have made my exact point in you're first two lines. who - or wh

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/09/2013 02:51 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Is it not possible to read passed swearing to the real issues? If someone uses vulgar language, and meaning to, just ignore it and raffle the good that is in the message? I do, for the most part, especially if I know that the poster's native langu

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-09 Thread Richard Vickery
On Apr 9, 2013 10:43 AM, "Joe Zeff" wrote: > > On 04/09/2013 08:24 AM, Richard Vickery wrote: >> >> Unlike yourself, Tim, as you suggest in this quote, some of us are >> compassionate enough to get past language barriers > > > Language differences aren't the issue. Common courtesy is. > > -- Is

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/09/2013 08:24 AM, Richard Vickery wrote: Unlike yourself, Tim, as you suggest in this quote, some of us are compassionate enough to get past language barriers Language differences aren't the issue. Common courtesy is. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/09/2013 06:30 AM, Kevin Martin wrote: For example, on many machines I've seen root's homespace as simply /root, not /home/root (and other special usernames that applications runas are often homed to the application path) so using the /home/username convention fails in that case anyway.

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-09 Thread Richard Vickery
On Apr 9, 2013 6:21 AM, "Tim" wrote: > > Allegedly, on or about 09 April 2013, Reindl Harald sent: > > and you even refuse to understand that the dracut shell may be > > very special depending on why you landed there and maybe you > > write tthe output to the temporary initramfs > > > > PERIOD: yo

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-09 Thread Richard Vickery
On Apr 9, 2013 6:25 AM, "Reindl Harald" wrote: > > > > Am 09.04.2013 15:21, schrieb Tim: > > Allegedly, on or about 09 April 2013, Reindl Harald sent: > >> and you even refuse to understand that the dracut shell may be > >> very special depending on why you landed there and maybe you > >> write tt

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-09 Thread Kevin Martin
On 04/09/13 09:48, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 15:24:58 +0200, > Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> what is your problem? >> you have no idea how it sounds if i am an asshole > > To native English speakers your style of writing reflects poorly on you. > Using less hyperbole when r

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-09 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 15:24:58 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: what is your problem? you have no idea how it sounds if i am an asshole To native English speakers your style of writing reflects poorly on you. Using less hyperbole when responding to people would help with that. More "I think"

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-09 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 09 April 2013, Kevin Martin sent: > As for using ~ instead of /home/username, while unusual it's > definitely possible for somebody to *not* have their homespace under > /home. For example, on many machines I've seen root's homespace as > simply /root, not /home/root (and ot

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-09 Thread Reindl Harald
ome/root (and other special usernames that > applications runas are often homed to the application path) so using the > /home/username convention fails in that case anyway. did Tim and you read the subject "Dracut on reboot"? who the hell tells you that you have your normal env in

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-09 Thread Kevin Martin
On 04/09/13 08:21, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 09 April 2013, Reindl Harald sent: >> and you even refuse to understand that the dracut shell may be >> very special depending on why you landed there and maybe you >> write tthe output to the temporary initramfs >> >> PERIOD: you should ALWAYS

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.04.2013 15:21, schrieb Tim: > Allegedly, on or about 09 April 2013, Reindl Harald sent: >> and you even refuse to understand that the dracut shell may be >> very special depending on why you landed there and maybe you >> write tthe output to the temporary initramfs >> >> PERIOD: you should

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-09 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 09 April 2013, Reindl Harald sent: > and you even refuse to understand that the dracut shell may be > very special depending on why you landed there and maybe you > write tthe output to the temporary initramfs > > PERIOD: you should ALWAYS know where you are save files and >

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.04.2013 10:14, schrieb Tim: > Tim: >>> The tilde refers to your homespace. So, for whoever's logged on, a >>> file path like this ~/example.text refers to an example.text file in >>> the root of *their* homespace. > > > Richard Vickery: >> You have made my exact point in you're first two

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-09 Thread Tim
Tim: >> The tilde refers to your homespace. So, for whoever's logged on, a >> file path like this ~/example.text refers to an example.text file in >> the root of *their* homespace. Richard Vickery: > You have made my exact point in you're first two lines. who - or where > - is dracut's homespace

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/08/2013 09:28 AM, Richard Vickery wrote: You have made my exact point in you're first two lines. who - or where - is dracut's homespace. On a dracut boot, it doesn't appear that I am logged it as my home user. I've always presumed root. Next time it happens, use whoami to find out. -- u

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-08 Thread Richard Vickery
The tilde refers to your homespace. So, for whoever's logged on, a file > path like this ~/example.text refers to an example.text file in the root > of *their* homespace. The advantage of this, apart from far less > typing, is not having to do the /home/(user)/ prefix typing that you've > mention

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-08 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 07 April 2013, Richard Vickery sent: > Doesn't this tilda put the command in the file in which one is working? > When the system boots up in [dracut], how is a political scientist / > aspiring lawyer who users Linux and does this contribution on his > sabbaticals supposed to

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-08 Thread Richard Vickery
On Apr 8, 2013 12:03 AM, "Harald Hoyer" wrote: > > Am 07.04.2013 00:47, schrieb Richard Vickery: > > Hi Gang, > > > > A number of times f18 has become stuck for so long that I felt it necessary to > > call the command reboot. Certain times a dracut command line shows up and I call > > systemctl, w

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-08 Thread Harald Hoyer
Am 07.04.2013 00:47, schrieb Richard Vickery: > Hi Gang, > > A number of times f18 has become stuck for so long that I felt it necessary to > call the command reboot. Certain times a dracut command line shows up and I > call > systemctl, which shows what it does, and with little-to-no current tec

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/07/2013 07:12 AM, Junk wrote: At the risk of being pedantic, that command will put a text file in the current working directory. Which could be anywhere if you've done a cd Well, yes, but I'd assumed that the people reading this list would know that. -- users mailing list users@lists.f

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-07 Thread Richard Vickery
On Apr 7, 2013 9:57 AM, "Richard Vickery" wrote: > > > On Apr 7, 2013 7:12 AM, "Junk" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7 Apr 2013, at 01:22, Joe Zeff wrote: > > > > > On 04/06/2013 03:47 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: > > >> I have little understanding of what I am looking for. Is there some way >

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-07 Thread Kevin Martin
On 04/07/13 11:57, Richard Vickery wrote: > > On Apr 7, 2013 7:12 AM, "Junk" > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On 7 Apr 2013, at 01:22, Joe Zeff mailto:j...@zeff.us>> wrote: >> >> > On 04/06/2013 03:47 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: >> >> I have little understanding of wha

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-07 Thread Richard Vickery
On Apr 7, 2013 7:12 AM, "Junk" wrote: > > > > > > On 7 Apr 2013, at 01:22, Joe Zeff wrote: > > > On 04/06/2013 03:47 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: > >> I have little understanding of what I am looking for. Is there some way > >> to call systemctl, get the same information, and paste this information

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-07 Thread Junk
On 7 Apr 2013, at 01:22, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 04/06/2013 03:47 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: >> I have little understanding of what I am looking for. Is there some way >> to call systemctl, get the same information, and paste this information >> here in an email for someone to look at? and perha

Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/06/2013 03:47 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: I have little understanding of what I am looking for. Is there some way to call systemctl, get the same information, and paste this information here in an email for someone to look at? and perhaps let me know what to look for? If you're logged in

Dracut on reboot

2013-04-06 Thread Richard Vickery
Hi Gang, A number of times f18 has become stuck for so long that I felt it necessary to call the command reboot. Certain times a dracut command line shows up and I call systemctl, which shows what it does, and with little-to-no current technical training, I have little understanding of what I am l