f38:: disabling NetworkManager makes xorg to core dump

2023-06-27 Thread Adrian Sevcenco
Hi! Did anyone else observe the behavior from subject? I tried to move the NetworkManager starting from systemd to cron (because it takes to much to start and it is in critical-chain) and while it worked, the xorg no longer started up, and the journal show xorg core dumping... Anyone have any i

Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-12-04 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 12:13:37AM +1030, Tim wrote: > > Actually, I think it's not just okay to talk about upcoming changes > > here, but a really good idea. I apologize for just giving the Gnome > > version and not mentioning the corresponding Fedora version, but in > > any case I was not talking

Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-12-04 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 09:02:07AM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > The Fedora Test List is for discussing all testing of Fedora-related > software, not just unreleased distros. The User list (i.e. this one) is Sure. But I wasn't talking about testing at all. -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cl

Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-12-04 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 04 December 2012, jarmo sent: > I think, networkmanager is separate program. Can be used in KDE also. > Both has Applet which have their behaviours with left/right mouse > clicks. Yes, NetworkManager is the underlying system that takes care of automatically (*) managing the

Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-12-04 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 03 December 2012, Matthew Miller sent: > Actually, I think it's not just okay to talk about upcoming changes > here, but a really good idea. I apologize for just giving the Gnome > version and not mentioning the corresponding Fedora version, but in > any case I was not talkin

Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-12-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2012-12-03 at 22:49 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 01:50:18PM +1030, Tim wrote: > > >> Well, what version are you using? I'm on Fedora 17, now. The current > > >> release of Fedora. My Gnome desktop has different results for left or > > >> right clicking on the Ne

Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-12-03 Thread jarmo
Mon, 3 Dec 2012 18:55:00 -0500 Matthew Miller kirjoitti: > On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 09:07:09PM +1030, Tim wrote: > > > Yeaah, so, in Gnome 3.6, you get the same thing on left or right > > > click. > > Well, what version are you using? I'm on Fedora 17, now. The > > current release of Fedora. My

Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-12-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 01:50:18PM +1030, Tim wrote: > >> Well, what version are you using? I'm on Fedora 17, now. The current > >> release of Fedora. My Gnome desktop has different results for left or > >> right clicking on the NetworkManager icon. > > Yep -- that's Gnome 3.4. In the upcoming F

Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-12-03 Thread Tim
Tim: >> Well, what version are you using? I'm on Fedora 17, now. The current >> release of Fedora. My Gnome desktop has different results for left or >> right clicking on the NetworkManager icon. Matthew Miller: > Yep -- that's Gnome 3.4. In the upcoming F18 release, Gnome 3.6 changes the > beh

Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-12-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 09:07:09PM +1030, Tim wrote: > > Yeaah, so, in Gnome 3.6, you get the same thing on left or right > > click. > Well, what version are you using? I'm on Fedora 17, now. The current > release of Fedora. My Gnome desktop has different results for left or > right clicking on

Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-12-03 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 30 November 2012, Matthew Miller sent: > Yeaah, so, in Gnome 3.6, you get the same thing on left or right > click. Well, what version are you using? I'm on Fedora 17, now. The current release of Fedora. My Gnome desktop has different results for left or right clicking on

Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-11-30 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 06:20:26PM +1030, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 29 November 2012, Alex sent: > > How do I even access the NM network management GUI from within GNOME? > Why do people find this so hard? It was bloody obvious from the first > time I ever saw the Gnome desktop after log

Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-11-29 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 29 November 2012, Alex sent: > How do I even access the NM network management GUI from within GNOME? Why do people find this so hard? It was bloody obvious from the first time I ever saw the Gnome desktop after log-in. And barely different from other releases of Gnome, as

Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-11-29 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:01:47 -0500 Alex wrote: > > Make sure that NM is masked and network.service is correctly > > configured and operational. After that, report separately any > > issues that you might have with other apps. > > Very helpful, thanks so much. Do you know of a doc that explains th

Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-11-29 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:03:11 -0500 Alex wrote: > The whole "mask" thing looks like a hack to me in the first place, but > I guess I can understand, considering the 'network' method has > probably been deprecated for at least a few versions now. There is a genuine explanation for masking, based on

Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-11-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:03:11 -0500 Alex wrote: > The whole "mask" thing looks like a hack to me in the first place The hack is that it is named "mask". It should be named "disable" because "disable" essentially does nothing useful at all. (It really means "don't start at boot, but anytime anyone

Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-11-29 Thread Alex
Hi, >> systemctl stop NetworkManager.service >> systemctl mask NetworkManager.service > > Ooops, sorry, make that > >systemctl mask NetworkManager.service >systemctl stop NetworkManager.service > > First mask it, then stop it. Otherwise, some app my restart NM again > before you manage

Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-11-29 Thread Alex
Hi, >> How do I properly disable NetworkManager so applications don't think >> my wired network is offline? > > First, do a > > systemctl stop NetworkManager.service > systemctl mask NetworkManager.service > > Get well informed about the mask command in "man systemctl". Awesome, that fixed it

Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-11-29 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:27:29 +0100 Marko Vojinovic wrote: > First, do a > > systemctl stop NetworkManager.service > systemctl mask NetworkManager.service Ooops, sorry, make that systemctl mask NetworkManager.service systemctl stop NetworkManager.service First mask it, then stop it. O

Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-11-29 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:07:02 -0500 Alex wrote: > How do I properly disable NetworkManager so applications don't think > my wired network is offline? First, do a systemctl stop NetworkManager.service systemctl mask NetworkManager.service Get well informed about the mask command in "man syste

Re: Disabling NetworkManager

2012-11-29 Thread Alex
Hi, > How do I properly disable NetworkManager so applications don't think > my wired network is offline? I'm using a network bridge for kvm, and > it's always been easier to use the old style networking. I've run the > following commands to disable it and enable regular network services: > > sy