Re: Clearing the unallocated disk space

2014-11-17 Thread jd1008
On 11/16/2014 09:58 PM, Tim wrote: On Sun, 2014-11-16 at 22:17 -0600, g wrote: hard disk drive manufactures _are_not_ NSA. you _are_not_ NSA. they do not connect hdd's to computers and try to read drives to see what is on them. to do so is a waist of their time. There have been cases of pe

Re: Clearing the unallocated disk space

2014-11-17 Thread jd1008
On 11/16/2014 09:46 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 2:04 PM, jd1008 mailto:jd1...@gmail.com>> wrote: Before sending the drive for warranty service, what is the best way to clean the unallocated blocks? If this is really important to you, just eat the cost of the drive and

Re: Clearing the unallocated disk space

2014-11-17 Thread Bill Oliver
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/17/14 12:58, Tim wrote: There have been cases of people getting refurbished drives which did have the previous owners data on them. Do you have first hand knowledge of this or is this something you've just heard about? The reason I ask this is I

Re: Clearing the unallocated disk space

2014-11-17 Thread Tim
Tim: >> There have been cases of people getting refurbished drives which did >> have the previous owners data on them. Ed Greshko: > Do you have first hand knowledge of this or is this something you've > just heard about? I read about it on the internet, so it must be true... ;-) But seriously,

Re: Clearing the unallocated disk space

2014-11-16 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
On 17 Nov 2014 at 14:00, Ed Greshko wrote: From: Ed Greshko Date sent: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:00:26 +0800 To: Community support for Fedora users Subject:Re: Clearing the unallocated disk space Send reply to: Community

Re: Clearing the unallocated disk space

2014-11-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/17/14 12:58, Tim wrote: > There have been cases of people getting refurbished drives which did > have the previous owners data on them. Do you have first hand knowledge of this or is this something you've just heard about? The reason I ask this is I have a friend that worked at WD in the H

Re: Clearing the unallocated disk space

2014-11-16 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2014-11-16 at 22:17 -0600, g wrote: > hard disk drive manufactures _are_not_ NSA. you _are_not_ NSA. > > they do not connect hdd's to computers and try to read drives to > see what is on them. to do so is a waist of their time. There have been cases of people getting refurbished drives w

Re: Clearing the unallocated disk space

2014-11-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 2:04 PM, jd1008 mailto:jd1...@gmail.com>> wrote: Before sending the drive for warranty service, what is the best way to clean the unallocated blocks? If this is really important to you, just eat the cost of the drive and destroy it instead of sending it back. If not m

Re: Clearing the unallocated disk space

2014-11-16 Thread g
On 11/16/2014 04:10 PM, jd1008 wrote: > On 11/16/2014 03:01 PM, Ted Roche wrote: >> The Fedora 20 repo includes a utility called 'scrub' and it has >> a mode to scrub free space. >> >> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 2:04 PM, jd1008 > > wrote: >> >> Before sending the drive for w

Re: Clearing the unallocated disk space

2014-11-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/16/2014 02:10 PM, jd1008 wrote: Thanx Ted. I had forgotten all about scrub. Now if only someone would tell me how to locate the journal blocks. If I mount the drive with the journaling disabled, will the blocks usually used for journaling become free blocks, and thus be covered by scrub??

Re: Clearing the unallocated disk space

2014-11-16 Thread jd1008
On 11/16/2014 03:01 PM, Ted Roche wrote: The Fedora 20 repo includes a utility called 'scrub' and it has a mode to scrub free space. On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 2:04 PM, jd1008 > wrote: Before sending the drive for warranty service, what is the best way to clean

Re: Clearing the unallocated disk space

2014-11-16 Thread Ted Roche
The Fedora 20 repo includes a utility called 'scrub' and it has a mode to scrub free space. On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 2:04 PM, jd1008 wrote: > Before sending the drive for warranty service, what is the best way to > clean the unallocated blocks? > > The rest of the files on disk are OK - standard

Re: Clearing the unallocated disk space

2014-11-16 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 16.11.2014, Tom Horsley wrote: > A way is to run as root "cp /dev/zero tempfile" for one "tempfile" per > partition > until the cp fails due to running out of disk space. That will allocate all > free space and write zeroes to it. Yes. Or "dd if=/dev/zero of=bigfile bs=1M", which is the same

Re: Clearing the unallocated disk space

2014-11-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/16/2014 01:03 PM, Fred Smith wrote: there's also a utility that is designed to securely wipe the drive. ufortunately I'm having a senior moment and can't think of its name. The utility you're thinking of is shred. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or chang

Re: Clearing the unallocated disk space

2014-11-16 Thread Fred Smith
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 12:04:31PM -0700, jd1008 wrote: > Before sending the drive for warranty service, what is the best way to > clean the unallocated blocks? > > The rest of the files on disk are OK - standard installation, ... etc. > All home dirs are deleted, tmp dirs, logs etc all delete

Re: Clearing the unallocated disk space

2014-11-16 Thread Roger Heflin
Depending on who makes the drive, the manufacturer's diag tool will generally have something that will secure erase all of the drive assuming the drive is still working enough. I know last time I used the seagate diag tool it on the menu. On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 1:17 PM, jd1008 wrote: > > On 11

Re: Clearing the unallocated disk space

2014-11-16 Thread jd1008
On 11/16/2014 12:09 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 16 Nov 2014 12:04:31 -0700 jd1008 wrote: Before sending the drive for warranty service, what is the best way to clean the unallocated blocks? A way is to run as root "cp /dev/zero tempfile" for one "tempfile" per partition until the cp fails

Re: Clearing the unallocated disk space

2014-11-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 16 Nov 2014 12:04:31 -0700 jd1008 wrote: > Before sending the drive for warranty service, what is the best way to > clean the unallocated blocks? A way is to run as root "cp /dev/zero tempfile" for one "tempfile" per partition until the cp fails due to running out of disk space. That will

Clearing the unallocated disk space

2014-11-16 Thread jd1008
Before sending the drive for warranty service, what is the best way to clean the unallocated blocks? The rest of the files on disk are OK - standard installation, ... etc. All home dirs are deleted, tmp dirs, logs etc all deleted. If you can think of other things to delete, pls let the world