On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 11:41 +, Frank Murphy wrote:
> yum update + reboot <= 50min
>
> I have machines updated from F13,
> my last clean install.
I didn't time the updates, but while waiting for my mother's old PC to
boot up Windows 2000 and get her mail (all of about 4 small emails), I
did a
On 12/23/2011 12:37 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Some customization you made that hangs around and interferes with the
way things work now...
Interesting. I've found it more likely that some of my customizations
get overwritten during the upgrade, such as my commenting out the color
ls stuff,
On 12/22/2011 01:24 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 12/22/2011 02:31 AM, mike cloaked wrote:
the almost inevitable
problems that have come from the upgrade of an older system.
And I've been doing upgrades for years and this is the first time I've
ever had the slightest bit of trouble. What "almost
On 12/21/2011 10:28 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 12/21/2011 07:06 PM, Fedora User wrote:
It has been awhile and I was unaware of the many advances that
developers have made in installation. It has never been this easy,
intuitive and fast.
That's good to know. Even if I manage to get this desktop cl
On 12/21/2011 10:06 PM, Fedora User wrote:
I cannot believe that we are at F16. I clearly recall RH9 to FC-1. But I
digress. I know that others have said this in the past. I just thought
that I would reinforce the notion that clean installs remove a large
number of annoying problems that persist
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On 12/21/2011 09:06 PM, Fedora User wrote:
> I cannot believe that we are at F16. I clearly recall RH9 to FC-1.
> But I digress. I know that others have said this in the past. I
> just thought that I would reinforce the notion that clean installs
> rem
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Fedora User wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 09:04:00 +0900
>> Joel Rees wrote:
>>
>>> I generally don't do install from DVD because there will always be the
>>> first yum update after the install, to kill a bit o
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 11:54 +0700, Roelof "Ben" Kusters wrote:
> I'm in Thailand and here 7MBit ADSL is the
> cheapest available broadband package. Dialup is available too, still,
> but
> rarely used... I was under the impression that Thailand, not directly
> on
> the fiber network, had relat
On 23/12/11 11:29, Reindl Harald wrote:
however, 8 GB is the maximum used space for / an oll machines
my co-developer has 3,000 packages on his notebook (x86_64 and
way too much i686 crap) and a dist-upgrades takes only few
hours
yum update + reboot <= 50min
I have machines updated from F13,
On 23.12.2011 02:28, Joel Rees wrote:
>> what the hell takes 44 hours?
>
> about 12 hours download
boah that is creeping
> about 2 hours in busy-cursor preparing this and preparing that
no ida waht this is and why it takes so long on your machine
> about 4 hours in checking dependencies
you
> I never upgrade. I must be stupid, but I prefer clean installs. Including
> the download, I'm usually done in about 6 hours.
You are not alone, I prefer clean install too. Last time, I just spend
2hours using net-install cd, (cd download & burn excluded)
Emilio.
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However, on a 1M ADSL connection, downloading the netinstall saves a
lot of download time. That'll be important for people whose ISPs are
bandwidth-capped, too.
I don't know where you're at. I'm in Thailand and here 7MBit ADSL is the
cheapest available broadband package. Dialup is available to
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Fedora User wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 09:04:00 +0900
> Joel Rees wrote:
>
>> I generally don't do install from DVD because there will always be the
>> first yum update after the install, to kill a bit of time. I use the
>
> Actually, you can enable the update
On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 09:04:00 +0900
Joel Rees wrote:
> I generally don't do install from DVD because there will always be the
> first yum update after the install, to kill a bit of time. I use the
Actually, you can enable the update repo with the dvd install. The
installation will then proceed fr
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> On 23.12.2011 01:04, Joel Rees wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Reindl Harald
>> wrote:
>>> i made some hundret dist-upgrades since 2006 with yum
>>> yes they are sometimes not "start and forget" but it takes
>>> me 1-3 days a
On 23.12.2011 01:04, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> i made some hundret dist-upgrades since 2006 with yum
>> yes they are sometimes not "start and forget" but it takes
>> me 1-3 days after a fresh-install (many services, customized
>> configs) and so
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> On 22.12.2011 20:29, mike cloaked wrote:
>> Of course others may largely have had no problems with ugrades and
>> maybe I was just the one unlucky one! Anyway with all the QA testing
>> on recent versions as well as the QA testing of the
On 22.12.2011 20:29, mike cloaked wrote:
> Of course others may largely have had no problems with ugrades and
> maybe I was just the one unlucky one! Anyway with all the QA testing
> on recent versions as well as the QA testing of the upgrade path
> perhaps my experience of it is simply outdated
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 12/22/2011 02:31 AM, mike cloaked wrote:
>>
>> the almost inevitable
>> problems that have come from the upgrade of an older system.
>
>
> And I've been doing upgrades for years and this is the first time I've ever
> had the slightest bit of tr
On 12/22/2011 02:31 AM, mike cloaked wrote:
the almost inevitable
problems that have come from the upgrade of an older system.
And I've been doing upgrades for years and this is the first time I've
ever had the slightest bit of trouble. What "almost inevitable
problems" are you referring to?
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 12/21/2011 07:06 PM, Fedora User wrote:
>>
>> It has been awhile and I was unaware of the many advances that
>> developers have made in installation. It has never been this easy,
>> intuitive and fast.
>
>
> That's good to know. Even if I mana
On 12/21/2011 07:06 PM, Fedora User wrote:
It has been awhile and I was unaware of the many advances that
developers have made in installation. It has never been this easy,
intuitive and fast.
That's good to know. Even if I manage to get this desktop cleaned up
and working, I'm considering sa
I cannot believe that we are at F16. I clearly recall RH9 to FC-1. But I
digress. I know that others have said this in the past. I just thought
that I would reinforce the notion that clean installs remove a large
number of annoying problems that persist through upgrades. Moreover, it
is refreshing
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