Ian Malone writes:
> On 10 July 2014 09:49, lee wrote:
>> Ian Malone writes:
>>
On 10 July 2014 01:10, lee wrote:
>>>
You trust computers too much.
>>>
>>> No, I'm pragmatic in what can be trusted. If key components of your
>>> system are compromised then what are you protecting
On 10 July 2014 09:49, lee wrote:
> Ian Malone writes:
>
>>> On 10 July 2014 01:10, lee wrote:
>>
>>> You trust computers too much.
>>>
>>
>> No, I'm pragmatic in what can be trusted. If key components of your
>> system are compromised then what are you protecting and what are you
>> protecting
Ian Malone writes:
>> On 10 July 2014 01:10, lee wrote:
>
>> You trust computers too much.
>>
>
> No, I'm pragmatic in what can be trusted. If key components of your
> system are compromised then what are you protecting and what are you
> protecting from? Misdirected paranoia is pointless.
A co
On 10 July 2014 01:10, lee wrote:
> Ian Malone writes:
>
>> On 8 July 2014 22:33, lee wrote:
>>> Ian Malone writes:
>>>
By expecting users to mount attached devices with full-fat mount usage
you open the potential for exploits.
>>>
>>> How would that happen? A file system is either m
Allegedly, on or about 10 July 2014, lee sent:
> Neither the system, nor the user should mount something. Only root
> should do that, knowing what they're doing.
Bullshit!
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Ian Malone writes:
> On 8 July 2014 22:33, lee wrote:
>> Ian Malone writes:
>>
>>> By expecting users to mount attached devices with full-fat mount usage
>>> you open the potential for exploits.
>>
>> How would that happen? A file system is either mounted or not, or is
>> it?
>
> I think I was
Wed, 09 Jul 2014 11:32:32 +0800
Ed Greshko kirjoitti:
> If you have, or create, a $HOME/.xinitrc containing
>
> exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --exit-with-session startxfce4
>
> Then startx will launch xfce.
>
> You will then find that a USB drive will mount on a double-click of
> the
On 8 July 2014 22:33, lee wrote:
> Ian Malone writes:
>
>> By expecting users to mount attached devices with full-fat mount usage
>> you open the potential for exploits.
>
> How would that happen? A file system is either mounted or not, or is
> it?
I think I wasn't clear enough. The user doesn'
On 07/09/14 11:14, jarmo wrote:
> Tue, 8 Jul 2014 17:54:19 -0600
> Kevin Fenzi kirjoitti:
>
>
>> Does it work as you expect with startx ?
>> (which was modified to take that change into effect).
>>
>> kevin
> Startx command tries launch KDE, what I used earlier..
> But... as said, now, when boot
Tue, 8 Jul 2014 17:54:19 -0600
Kevin Fenzi kirjoitti:
> Does it work as you expect with startx ?
> (which was modified to take that change into effect).
>
> kevin
Startx command tries launch KDE, what I used earlier..
But... as said, now, when booting direct into graphical mode, all
works..
On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 15:48:46 +0300
jarmo wrote:
> Mon, 07 Jul 2014 17:55:46 -0700
> Joe Zeff kirjoitti:
>
>
> > I'm using F 19 with Xfce. If I insert a flash drive, it's mounted
> > without asking for a password because that's what I told Xfce how I
> > wanted this handled. The same thing g
Joe Zeff writes:
> computer, it's configured more for convenience than security. Each
> person's needs are different, and this is just another example where
> *nix lets people do things their own way instead of insisting that
> there's One True Way.
Choices are good to have. Unfortunately, the
Ian Malone writes:
> By expecting users to mount attached devices with full-fat mount usage
> you open the potential for exploits.
How would that happen? A file system is either mounted or not, or is
it?
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On 8 July 2014 01:15, lee wrote:
> Tim writes:
>
>> Allegedly, on or about 06 July 2014, lee sent:
>>> Why would anyone but root be allowed to mount something?
>>
>> Because *I* put a CD, DVD, USB drive, into *my* computer, logged in as
>> *myself*...
>
> That doesn't mean that you should be allo
Mon, 07 Jul 2014 17:55:46 -0700
Joe Zeff kirjoitti:
> I'm using F 19 with Xfce. If I insert a flash drive, it's mounted
> without asking for a password because that's what I told Xfce how I
> wanted this handled. The same thing goes for my mp3 player and
> camera. For various reasons, I have
On 08.07.2014 08:10, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/08/14 13:59, poma wrote:
So you do not care, but you do not hesitate to jump into the thread to provoke
Xfce users out of boredom or just for fun?
Really Ed.
Yes
Shame on you!
You really disappointed me!
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On 07/08/14 13:59, poma wrote:
> So you do not care, but you do not hesitate to jump into the thread to
> provoke Xfce users out of boredom or just for fun?
> Really Ed.
Yes
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On 08.07.2014 04:06, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/08/14 09:52, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 07/07/2014 06:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
I leave it up to xfce users to determine the difference between the 2 starting
methods. :-)
If it matters, I can ask about it at the Xfce forum for you.
I thought it was cle
On 07/08/14 09:52, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 07/07/2014 06:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> I leave it up to xfce users to determine the difference between the 2
>> starting methods. :-)
>
> If it matters, I can ask about it at the Xfce forum for you.
I thought it was clear that it matters not to me. If
On 07/07/2014 06:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
I leave it up to xfce users to determine the difference between the 2 starting
methods. :-)
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s, to do such a basic
> requirement, these days, then security is being busted by either knowing
> the root password, or being allowed to use my own password for such a
> hazardous thing.
>
If folks would reference the other thread entitled "Camera mounting" they may
discover th
On 07/07/2014 05:15 PM, lee wrote:
Tim writes:
>Allegedly, on or about 06 July 2014, lee sent:
>>Why would anyone but root be allowed to mount something?
>
>Because*I* put a CD, DVD, USB drive, into*my* computer, logged in as
>*myself*...
That doesn't mean that you should be allowed to mo
Tim writes:
> Allegedly, on or about 06 July 2014, lee sent:
>> Why would anyone but root be allowed to mount something?
>
> Because *I* put a CD, DVD, USB drive, into *my* computer, logged in as
> *myself*...
That doesn't mean that you should be allowed to mount it when you're not
root. And yo
Allegedly, on or about 06 July 2014, lee sent:
> Why would anyone but root be allowed to mount something?
Because *I* put a CD, DVD, USB drive, into *my* computer, logged in as
*myself*...
If I have to be root, or gain root privileges, to do such a basic
requirement, these days, then security is
Mon, 07 Jul 2014 03:52:36 +0200
poma kirjoitti:
> You did not quite understand when I asked you to paste the command[1]
> output here, i.e.
> [1] $ loginctl show-session $(loginctl|grep $(whoami)|awk '{print
> $1}')
>
> However it seems that your case is the same as Bob's,
> "gphoto2 only as roo
On 06.07.2014 18:03, jarmo wrote:
[Solved]
I had my booting system into multi-user. Started XFCE from command
line..
Now somehow XFCE couldn't do mounting without root privileges.
I changed boot direct into graphical.target, so now I get medias
mounted without root privileges..
Sorry for noise,
jarmo writes:
> Just found weirdo action. i connect my olympus camera into computer.
> Nothing happens, but I can find "unknown" in filemanager. Now try to
> open it, I get response, that need to be root, to mount camera into
> system What? Earlier I could mount it as a normal user...
Huh?
[Solved]
I had my booting system into multi-user. Started XFCE from command
line..
Now somehow XFCE couldn't do mounting without root privileges.
I changed boot direct into graphical.target, so now I get medias
mounted without root privileges..
Sorry for noise, should check better my system and
Sun, 06 Jul 2014 10:38:57 +0200
poma kirjoitti:
> $ loginctl show-session $(loginctl|grep $(whoami)|awk '{print $1}')
>
>
> poma
>
>
An what I should see there?
Again, connecting camera as ME have worked earlier, now need root
privileges..
What have changed? Linux oh1mrr.ampr.org 3.14.9-200
On 06.07.2014 10:19, jarmo wrote:
Just found weirdo action. i connect my olympus camera into computer.
Nothing happens, but I can find "unknown" in filemanager. Now try to
open it, I get response, that need to be root, to mount camera into
system What? Earlier I could mount it as a normal use
Just found weirdo action. i connect my olympus camera into computer.
Nothing happens, but I can find "unknown" in filemanager. Now try to
open it, I get response, that need to be root, to mount camera into
system What? Earlier I could mount it as a normal user...
What has happened, not using se
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