Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/23/2010 11:41 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 23:08 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> [...] >> Sounds like a pithy quotation that should be found by google. But, I >> was unable to unearth that quotation. Do you have a source? >> > Try http://www.google.co.ve/sea

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 23:08 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > [...] > Sounds like a pithy quotation that should be found by google. But, I > was unable to unearth that quotation. Do you have a source? Try http://www.google.co.ve/search?q=needham+schroeder+dont+understand poc -- users mailing list u

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 23:08 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > "If you think your problem can be solved by cryptography, you don't > > understand cryptography and you don't understand your problem." > > > Sounds like a pithy quotation that should be found by google. But, I > was unable to unearth tha

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/23/2010 11:00 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 10:09 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > >> On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:35:55 -0430 >> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> >> >>> More to the point, there would be widespread panic among banks and >>> online shopping sites, webmail si

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 10:09 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:35:55 -0430 > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > More to the point, there would be widespread panic among banks and > > online shopping sites, webmail sites, and anywhere else that relies on a > > public-key based securit

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:35:55 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > More to the point, there would be widespread panic among banks and > online shopping sites, webmail sites, and anywhere else that relies on a > public-key based security model, which is essentially all of them. Nah, those aren't real

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 23:21 -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > David Liguori writes: > > Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > >> The core problem is to prevent someone from guessing users' passwords. > >> You aren't going to achieve real security by hiding this or that > >> attribute. If you don't w

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-22 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
David Liguori writes: > Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >> The core problem is to prevent someone from guessing users' passwords. >> You aren't going to achieve real security by hiding this or that >> attribute. If you don't want to worry about your users chosing bad >> non-random passwords, don't

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-22 Thread David Liguori
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > > The core problem is to prevent someone from guessing users' passwords. > You aren't going to achieve real security by hiding this or that > attribute. If you don't want to worry about your users chosing bad > non-random passwords, don't let them. Force them to u

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-22 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 18:03 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > while not replying to Pings may go some way to do so by hiding the IP > address from the less sophisticated attacker. And only from them. There's a difference between pinging an address that doesn't reply back, and pinging an address

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 11:26 -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > g writes: > > Steve Blackwell wrote: > > > >> so it appears that someone was trying to break in to my machine. > > > > do you have 'ping reply' enabled on your cable modem? > > > > if so, i would suggest that you disable it so you

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 13:17 -0700, Marvin Kosmal wrote: > HI > > I can't find the denyhosts.cfg file... > > Reading doc.. And it says it should be installed?? should be /etc/denyhosts.conf if necessary, copy from /usr/share/doc/denyhosts-2.6/denyhosts.cfg-dist to /etc/denyhosts.conf Craig

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Marvin Kosmal
HI Sorry.. If found it The FAQ is out of date..It is in /etc/denyhosts.conf... YMMV Marvin On 4/21/10, Marvin Kosmal wrote: > HI > > I can't find the denyhosts.cfg file... > > Reading doc.. And it says it should be installed?? > > TIA > > Marvin > > On 4/21/10, Marvin Kosmal wrote: >>

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Marvin Kosmal
HI I can't find the denyhosts.cfg file... Reading doc.. And it says it should be installed?? TIA Marvin On 4/21/10, Marvin Kosmal wrote: > On 4/21/10, Ryan Pugatch wrote: >> On 04/21/2010 11:34 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: >>> How can I tell if I have this package "denyhosts package" installed i

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On 4/21/10, Ryan Pugatch wrote: > On 04/21/2010 11:34 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: >> How can I tell if I have this package "denyhosts package" installed in >> F-12?? >> >> TIA >> >> Marvin > > yum info denyhosts or rpm -q denyhosts > > Ryan > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org >

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
g writes: > Steve Blackwell wrote: > >> so it appears that someone was trying to break in to my machine. > > do you have 'ping reply' enabled on your cable modem? > > if so, i would suggest that you disable it so you are not visible. > > hth. One should really point out that some icmp messages

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Kevin H. Hobbs
On 04/21/2010 11:34 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: > On 4/21/10, Kevin H. Hobbs wrote: >> > >> > Don't forget about the denyhosts package which will watch >> > /var/log/secure for repeated failed login attempts and attempts for >> > accounts like root and add the host to /etc/ho

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Ryan Pugatch
On 04/21/2010 11:34 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: > How can I tell if I have this package "denyhosts package" installed in F-12?? > > TIA > > Marvin yum info denyhosts or rpm -q denyhosts Ryan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://a

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On 4/21/10, Kevin H. Hobbs wrote: > On 04/21/2010 02:07 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: >> Of course, combining methods >> can work nicely. > > Don't forget about the denyhosts package which will watch > /var/log/secure for repeated failed login attempts and attempts for > account

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 00:33:11 -0400 Steve Blackwell wrote: > I was looking at my logwatch mail and saw: > > Failed logins from: > 62.39.117.140 (140.117.39-62.rev.gaoland.net): 139 times > 220.128.67.41: 9 times > > Illegal users from: > 62.39.117.140 (140.117.39-62.rev.gaoland.ne

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 06:07 +, g wrote: > Steve Blackwell wrote: > > > so it appears that someone was trying to break in to my machine. > > do you have 'ping reply' enabled on your cable modem? > > if so, i would suggest that you disable it so you are not visible. It might help against naiv

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-21 Thread Kevin H. Hobbs
On 04/21/2010 02:07 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: > Of course, combining methods > can work nicely. Don't forget about the denyhosts package which will watch /var/log/secure for repeated failed login attempts and attempts for accounts like root and add the host to /etc/hosts.de

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-20 Thread g
Steve Blackwell wrote: > so it appears that someone was trying to break in to my machine. do you have 'ping reply' enabled on your cable modem? if so, i would suggest that you disable it so you are not visible. hth. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-20 Thread jdow
From: "Steve Blackwell" Sent: Tuesday, 2010/April/20 21:33 >I was looking at my logwatch mail and saw: > > Failed logins from: >62.39.117.140 (140.117.39-62.rev.gaoland.net): 139 times >220.128.67.41: 9 times > > Illegal users from: >62.39.117.140 (140.117.39-62.rev.gaoland.net): 2

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-20 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On 4/20/10, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 00:33:11 -0400, > Steve Blackwell wrote: >> >> I googled rev.gaoland.net (http://whois.domaintools.com/gaoland.net) >> and it appears to be some kind of French ISP. >> Is there some place to report this? > > It's probably not worth yo

Re: Breakin attempts

2010-04-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 00:33:11 -0400, Steve Blackwell wrote: > > I googled rev.gaoland.net (http://whois.domaintools.com/gaoland.net) > and it appears to be some kind of French ISP. > Is there some place to report this? It's probably not worth your time. If you really want to, you could try

Breakin attempts

2010-04-20 Thread Steve Blackwell
I was looking at my logwatch mail and saw: Failed logins from: 62.39.117.140 (140.117.39-62.rev.gaoland.net): 139 times 220.128.67.41: 9 times Illegal users from: 62.39.117.140 (140.117.39-62.rev.gaoland.net): 229 times 220.128.67.41: 2 times Received disconnect: 11: B