Re: Better tools needed - Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:09 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > >> systemctl list-unit-files >> > > Lists 315 services, most that I can't control. And does it no longer > matter if you are in single user, multiuser, etc mode on how the services > run? As I pointed out before, you *can* control t

Re: Better tools needed - Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/02/2014 12:42 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/01/2014 05:17 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Then there was good old 'chkconfig' that produced a nice tablular report of services that can be controlled. I have yet to find anything close to this with systemd. systemctl list-unit-files Lists 315

Re: Better tools needed - Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/01/2014 05:17 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Then there was good old 'chkconfig' that produced a nice tablular report of services that can be controlled. I have yet to find anything close to this with systemd. systemctl list-unit-files -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Better tools needed - Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
HI On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >And the list is hugh compared to what services are really up to user control. I mean listed items like: Yes that list is larger because systemd does allow you to control more than sysvinit does directly. Try it out > Oh, and that

Re: Better tools needed - Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/01/2014 08:23 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: HI On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Perhaps at some point we will get better tools for using systemd. Thanks for bringing in something useful to the discussion that I can address: I mean compare: systemctl

Re: Better tools needed - Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
HI On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Perhaps at some point we will get better tools for using systemd. Thanks for bringing in something useful to the discussion that I can address: I mean compare: > > systemctl restart sshd.service > > with > > service sshd restart > >

Better tools needed - Re: Latest systemd news

2014-12-01 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/01/2014 07:23 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 07:00:39PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I would suggest that the thread is off the rails long time back and not enforcing the list guidelines and keeping the list on topic leads to us, unable to point our own users to the list fo