Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-12 Thread Alan Cox
> used, the ISO9660 drivers included the translations. I'm pretty sure > that included Fedora back around F4 or 5 and before. I'd been > wondering how the MARFIAA had gotten us to remove that functionality, > and I guess I'm seeing some clues in this thread. The linux kernel has never presented IS

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-11 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 08/10/2011 02:11 AM, Ian Malone wrote: >> >> CDs are static information. If I burned a set of wavs to a CDROM we >> wouldn't say, "It's not a filesystem because it's audio." >> > I

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-11 Thread Joel Rees
Oh, for ... On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 16:17 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: >> It should be possible to write a FUSE wrapper that would let you do >> the desktop-interface trick as a proper mount. Not that I'm >> volunteering. It has been done in the past. In m

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-10 Thread Ian Malone
On 11 August 2011 03:49, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > > On 08/10/2011 02:11 AM, Ian Malone wrote: >> >> CDs are static information. If I burned a set of wavs to a CDROM we >> wouldn't say, "It's not a filesystem because it's audio." >> > It would depend on how you burned them to the CD-ROM. If you

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-10 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/10/2011 02:11 AM, Ian Malone wrote: > > CDs are static information. If I burned a set of wavs to a CDROM we > wouldn't say, "It's not a filesystem because it's audio." > It would depend on how you burned them to the CD-ROM. If you saved them as

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-10 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 04:14:03PM +0930, Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 16:17 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: > > It should be possible to write a FUSE wrapper that would let you do > > the desktop-interface trick as a proper mount. Not that I'm > > volunteering. > > Though, I wonder what you'd do w

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-10 Thread Ian Malone
On 10 August 2011 07:44, Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 16:17 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: >> It should be possible to write a FUSE wrapper that would let you do >> the desktop-interface trick as a proper mount. Not that I'm >> volunteering. > > Though, I wonder what you'd do with it then?  dd or

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/10/2011 02:44 PM, Tim wrote: > Another way of showing how audio isn't really a file system: Think > about streaming radio. It's a similar situation, choose a channel, > listen to what comes through. You have a basic selection method, but > after that trying to shoehorn it into the file sys

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-09 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 16:17 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: > It should be possible to write a FUSE wrapper that would let you do > the desktop-interface trick as a proper mount. Not that I'm > volunteering. Though, I wonder what you'd do with it then? dd or cat track to the sound device? mplayer /medi

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-09 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Mon, 08 Aug 2011 06:31:59 -0700 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/08/2011 06:06 AM, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > > Try Parole -- the default xfrce player. It works very well here. > > Also, take a look at the "removable drives and media" settings in > > the xfce settings manager. > > For some reason, when

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-09 Thread Ian Malone
On 9 August 2011 14:17, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 09:57:07AM +0930, Tim wrote: >> There's a table of contents (TOC) at the start of the disc that says how >> far in, and how far for, each track is located. > > Sounds like a file system to me. ;) > > (j/k - I know what you'r

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-09 Thread Tim
Tim: >> There's a table of contents (TOC) at the start of the disc that says how >> far in, and how far for, each track is located. Darryl L. Pierce: > Sounds like a file system to me. ;) > > (j/k - I know what you're saying) You are half-right. It does seem like one at first glance, but isn't

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-09 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 09:57:07AM +0930, Tim wrote: > There's a table of contents (TOC) at the start of the disc that says how > far in, and how far for, each track is located. Sounds like a file system to me. ;) (j/k - I know what you're saying) -- Darryl L. Pierce, Sr. Software Engineer @ R

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-08 Thread Tim
Joachim Backes > Weird: Inserting an audio CD, then clicking (inside the desktop) with > nautilus on the computer icon and then on "CD/DVD Drive: Audio Disc", > the next nautilus window shows a window with title: "These files are > on an Audio CD." with a file list like "Track 1.wav", "Track > 2.wa

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-08 Thread Joachim Backes
On 08/08/2011 04:11 PM, Tim wrote: > Ed Greshko: >>> Well, as Tim & I have saidyou can't mount an Audio CD. > > Darryl L. Pierce: >> Sure you can! > > 'fraid not... > >> (inserts Kirby Krackle's "Super Powered Love" CD in drive) >> >> (gets dialog from Gnome, selects "Open folder") >> >> (sh

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-08 Thread Tim
Ed Greshko: >> Well, as Tim & I have saidyou can't mount an Audio CD. Darryl L. Pierce: > Sure you can! 'fraid not... > (inserts Kirby Krackle's "Super Powered Love" CD in drive) > > (gets dialog from Gnome, selects "Open folder") > > (shown folder of WAV files) > > Granted, it's not visi

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/08/2011 06:06 AM, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > Try Parole -- the default xfrce player. It works very well here. Also, take a > look at the > "removable drives and media" settings in the xfce settings manager. For some reason, when I installed XFCE I didn't get parole. Once I found that out, I

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-08 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:28:26 -0700 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/05/2011 04:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > Under KDE one does get a notification from "Device Notifier". It > > isn't mountable, which I thought is what you were after, but it > > does offer to play it with Amarok. > > I've made sure that

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-08 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/08/2011 08:37 PM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > On Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 07:45:37AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 08/06/2011 07:28 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: >>> I've made sure that XFCE is set to put an icon up for audio CDs, but it >>> doesn't. Checking, I found that I do have Sound Juicer, but the

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-08 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 07:45:37AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 08/06/2011 07:28 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > I've made sure that XFCE is set to put an icon up for audio CDs, but it > > doesn't. Checking, I found that I do have Sound Juicer, but the menu > > listed it as "Audio CD Extractor." Alas,

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/06/2011 07:28 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > I've made sure that XFCE is set to put an icon up for audio CDs, but it > doesn't. Checking, I found that I do have Sound Juicer, but the menu > listed it as "Audio CD Extractor." Alas, it won't read the track info > on my audio CD because it's not mou

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-05 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2011-08-05 at 14:44 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > I'm using F14 with XFCE. Until recently, all went well. Last week, I > tried mounting a new audio CD that I'd bought so that I could listen > to it. Nothing happened. I tried with another new CD, and an older > CD that I"d used before, with n

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/05/2011 04:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > Under KDE one does get a notification from "Device Notifier". It isn't > mountable, which I thought is what you were after, but it does offer to > play it with Amarok. I've made sure that XFCE is set to put an icon up for audio CDs, but it doesn't. Ch

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/06/2011 07:07 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/05/2011 03:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> FWIW, I have never seen or heard of an audio CD being mountable. >> > It used to be that I'd get a desktop icon for an audio CD. Now, I > don't, but it might have to do with XFCE, so I'll ask their fourm. Unde

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/05/2011 03:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > FWIW, I have never seen or heard of an audio CD being mountable. > It used to be that I'd get a desktop icon for an audio CD. Now, I don't, but it might have to do with XFCE, so I'll ask their fourm. > It had been a long time since I actually did anyt

Re: Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/06/2011 05:44 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > I'm using F14 with XFCE. Until recently, all went well. Last week, I > tried mounting a new audio CD that I'd bought so that I could listen to > it. Nothing happened. I tried with another new CD, and an older CD > that I"d used before, with no change

Audio CDs not mounting

2011-08-05 Thread Joe Zeff
I'm using F14 with XFCE. Until recently, all went well. Last week, I tried mounting a new audio CD that I'd bought so that I could listen to it. Nothing happened. I tried with another new CD, and an older CD that I"d used before, with no change. Checking /var/log/messages, I saw this: Jul