Re: Allowing less secure apps - "Goozilla" vs Mozilla

2015-02-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2015-02-11 at 00:07 +1030, Tim wrote: > > but just to cherry-pick this specific point: Gmail 2FA allows you to > > print a list of 10 authentication codes for use in case you lose > your > > phone or change the number (and of course changing the number just > > means registering the new one

Re: Allowing less secure apps - "Goozilla" vs Mozilla

2015-02-10 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2015-02-09 at 16:44 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I'm afraid my eyes also glazed over reading your very long post Tim, I kind of did that on purpose, since pomo referrred me to a ridiculously long thread and asked me to comment on it. Hopefully his eyes ran out of breath, too. :-\

Re: Allowing less secure apps - "Goozilla" vs Mozilla

2015-02-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 00:27 +1030, Tim wrote: > And a new security flaw to deal with: Steal my phone, try to log in > to > my mail, and it fails because you don't know my password, click the > "I've forgotten my password" link, and the stupid service uses my > mobile > phone to confirm something,

Re: Allowing less secure apps - "Goozilla" vs Mozilla

2015-02-09 Thread Tim
poma: >> OK read it for yourself what it's all about: >> Log in to Google Talk (XMPP) and Gmail (IMAP/SMTP) using OAuth >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=849540 & poma, again: > Tim, Markus care to comment? :) My eyes glazed over less than half way through that page. Pithy comments

Re: Allowing less secure apps - "Goozilla" vs Mozilla

2015-02-09 Thread Tim
poma: >> OK read it for yourself what it's all about: >> Log in to Google Talk (XMPP) and Gmail (IMAP/SMTP) using OAuth >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=849540 > poma: > Tim, Markus care to comment? :) My eyes glazed over less than half way through that page. Pithy comments aside

Re: Allowing less secure apps - "Goozilla" vs Mozilla

2015-02-09 Thread poma
On 07.02.2015 00:15, poma wrote: > On 06.02.2015 11:56, Markus Schönhaber wrote: >> Am 06.02.2015 um 05:31 schrieb poma: >> >>> Send Message Error >>> >>> Sending of message failed. The SMTP server smtp.gmail.com does not >>> seem to support encrypted passwords. If you just set up this account, >>>

Re: Allowing less secure apps - "Goozilla" vs Mozilla

2015-02-06 Thread poma
On 06.02.2015 11:56, Markus Schönhaber wrote: > Am 06.02.2015 um 05:31 schrieb poma: > >> Send Message Error >> >> Sending of message failed. The SMTP server smtp.gmail.com does not >> seem to support encrypted passwords. If you just set up this account, >> please try changing to 'Normal password'

Re: Allowing less secure apps - "Goozilla" vs Mozilla

2015-02-06 Thread Markus Schönhaber
Am 06.02.2015 um 05:31 schrieb poma: > Send Message Error > > Sending of message failed. The SMTP server smtp.gmail.com does not > seem to support encrypted passwords. If you just set up this account, > please try changing to 'Normal password' as the 'Authentication > method' in the 'Account Sett

Re: Allowing less secure apps - "Goozilla" vs Mozilla

2015-02-05 Thread poma
On 06.02.2015 01:35, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 05 February 2015, poma sent: >> Therefore "Goozilla" considers Mozilla Thunderbird as less secure!? >> Really "Goozilla"? > > This rather depends on *why* you're encountering this. A great many > applications logon to servers by sending yo

Re: Allowing less secure apps - "Goozilla" vs Mozilla

2015-02-05 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 05 February 2015, poma sent: > Therefore "Goozilla" considers Mozilla Thunderbird as less secure!? > Really "Goozilla"? This rather depends on *why* you're encountering this. A great many applications logon to servers by sending your username and password, unencrypted. An

Allowing less secure apps - "Goozilla" vs Mozilla

2015-02-05 Thread poma
Allowing less secure apps to access your account Google may block sign in attempts from some apps or devices that do not use modern security standards. Since these apps and devices are easier to break into, blocking them helps keep your account safer. Some examples of apps that do not support