Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-03-01 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 17:11, Joe Zeff wrote: > Why?  All of the Microsoft fanbois will have it and you'll be able to use it > on your Mac.  Like it or not, that's well over 90% of the market, and to > Adobe, that's all that matters. I think that´s looking at it from the wrong side. What Google

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-03-01 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/1/2012 7:32 PM, nomnex wrote: On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 17:46:11 -0800 Paul Allen Newell wrote: I haven't hit anything that doesn't play in my base tests (mp4, qt, avi, wmv, and mov). Do you know of a format that isn't picked up in whatever yum/rpm pulls in for mplayer/rpmfusion? Possibly "Real

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-03-01 Thread nomnex
> On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 17:46:11 -0800 > Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > I haven't hit anything that doesn't play in my base tests (mp4, qt, > avi, wmv, and mov). Do you know of a format that isn't picked up in > whatever yum/rpm pulls in for mplayer/rpmfusion? Possibly "Real Player" crap, among oth

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-03-01 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/1/2012 5:21 PM, nomnex wrote: You are welcome. Make sure you have the MPlayer all-codecs pack installed. You have to install them manually (unless to be wrong, they are not in the RPMFusion package). download: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/ info: Binary Codec Packages

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-03-01 Thread nomnex
> On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 16:56:33 -0800 > Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > On 2/25/2012 8:13 AM, Alchemist wrote: > > 2012/2/25 nomnex: > >> > > Yes SMPlayer is highly recommended GUI for mplayer > > nomnex and alchemist: > > Sorry for the delay in getting back as I had family visit descend > upon my h

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-03-01 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 2/24/2012 5:18 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:02:30 -0800 Paul Allen Newell wrote: I've got this wacky setup (I don't actually use, but have tested) for running mplayer from my phone via a web browser and some cgi scripts that inject artificial LIRC keypresses (I would have dra

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-03-01 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 2/25/2012 8:13 AM, Alchemist wrote: 2012/2/25 nomnex: Yes SMPlayer is highly recommended GUI for mplayer nomnex and alchemist: Sorry for the delay in getting back as I had family visit descend upon my house. I downloaded smplayer and gave it a test drive, works great ... many thanks

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-25 Thread Alchemist
2012/2/25 nomnex : >> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:02:30 -0800 >> Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> >> VLC works very nicely on my testbed of files. I've got a couple minor >> concerns, but that's for me to figure out more about VLC. >> >> Mplayer played the files well, but the gui just didn't work. > > I use

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-24 Thread nomnex
> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:02:30 -0800 > Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > VLC works very nicely on my testbed of files. I've got a couple minor > concerns, but that's for me to figure out more about VLC. > > Mplayer played the files well, but the gui just didn't work. I use smplayer (a front end for

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:02:30 -0800 Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Mplayer played the files well, but the gui just didn't work. And dealing > with hot keys rather than a gui seems like an awkward substitute. I've got this wacky setup (I don't actually use, but have tested) for running mplayer from my

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-24 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 2/23/2012 10:12 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: To all: Thanks for suggestions for vlc and mplayer. Will try both and see what I get. Paul VLC works very nicely on my testbed of files. I've got a couple minor concerns, but that's for me to figure out more about VLC. Mplayer played the f

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-24 Thread Alchemist
2012/2/24 suvayu ali : > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 22:52, Alchemist wrote: >>> I like VLC, however I would also suggest trying mplayer. Its just way >>> too awesome. :) >>> >> >> it is also much more better then VLC, due less cpu/memory work. Just >> take a good GUI and play > > Well I wouldn't go t

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-23 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 2/23/2012 2:30 PM, jdow wrote: On 2012/02/23 12:01, Joe Zeff wrote: On 02/23/2012 10:20 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: To me, that's pretty much a case of being off Windows except when its the right tool. Not everybody *can* be 100% Windows free. My post was to show that under the right cir

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-23 Thread Paul Allen Newell
To all: Thanks for suggestions for vlc and mplayer. Will try both and see what I get. Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-23 Thread suvayu ali
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 22:52, Alchemist wrote: >> I like VLC, however I would also suggest trying mplayer. Its just way >> too awesome. :) >> > > it is also much more better then VLC, due less cpu/memory work. Just > take a good GUI and play Well I wouldn't go that far as much better. There are

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-23 Thread jdow
On 2012/02/23 14:58, Joe Zeff wrote: On 02/23/2012 02:30 PM, jdow wrote: Some programs will never appear on Open Source platforms, Joe. So? Rhythmbox, Anorak and Parole are all in the repos, and there are probably others there that work. One of the glories of Open Source is that there's almos

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/23/2012 02:30 PM, jdow wrote: Some programs will never appear on Open Source platforms, Joe. So? Rhythmbox, Anorak and Parole are all in the repos, and there are probably others there that work. One of the glories of Open Source is that there's almost always a free alternative to any

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-23 Thread jdow
On 2012/02/23 12:01, Joe Zeff wrote: On 02/23/2012 10:20 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: To me, that's pretty much a case of being off Windows except when its the right tool. Not everybody *can* be 100% Windows free. My post was to show that under the right circumstances it's not only possible, i

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-23 Thread Alchemist
2012/2/23 suvayu ali : > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 20:06, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >>> I'd suggest using VLC from RPMFusion.  I've never come across anything >>> it couldn't play, which is why I've always used it, even on Windows. >>> ;-) >> >> >> Let me take a look at this as I am not happy with th

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-23 Thread suvayu ali
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 20:06, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> I'd suggest using VLC from RPMFusion.  I've never come across anything >> it couldn't play, which is why I've always used it, even on Windows. >> ;-) > > > Let me take a look at this as I am not happy with the total lack of response > from

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/23/2012 10:20 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: To me, that's pretty much a case of being off Windows except when its the right tool. Not everybody *can* be 100% Windows free. My post was to show that under the right circumstances it's not only possible, it's easy. And, as far as Totem goe

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-23 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 2/23/2012 10:42 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: Note that I could care less whether or not you use Windows. I just noticed some things that might make your Linux experience better, if you so desire. :-) T.C.: Noted and comments taken as such (smile) [re: Totem] I'd suggest using VLC from

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-23 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
Note that I could care less whether or not you use Windows. I just noticed some things that might make your Linux experience better, if you so desire. :-) On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Joe: > > With the introduction of F16, Totem either crashes or misplays (I've >

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-23 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 2/23/2012 12:14 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: I've been running strictly Linux since F9. The only time I'm at a computer running Windows is when I'm at my SF club playing a first-person shooter on one of the club's Windows boxes. Strictly speaking, my desktop is still dual boot, but I haven't boot

RE: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-23 Thread Nex6
Original Message Subject: Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux From: Alan Cox Date: Wed, February 22, 2012 5:25 pm To: Community support for Fedora users Cc: b...@borg1911.com On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:18:16 -0700 "Nex6" wrote: > > H

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-23 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Alchemist wrote: > > http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/02/adobe-and-google-partnering-for-flash-player-on-linux.html > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-23 Thread suvayu ali
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 07:59, Heinz Diehl wrote: > For me as a student, this will force me to buy and use Windows > immediately, which I haven't used since Windows 3.1. It is absolutely > crucial for me to be able to view all websites, and a lot of them use flash. > The day this will no longer be

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/22/2012 11:16 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: I've been trying to "kick the Windows habit" for awhile and it gets better and better each year. But I know that there are just going to be situations where Windows is best (or only). And, to me, that's part of the landscape. I've been running st

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-22 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 2/22/2012 10:59 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: For me as a student, this will force me to buy and use Windows immediately, which I haven't used since Windows 3.1. It is absolutely crucial for me to be able to view all websites, and a lot of them use flash. The day this will no longer be possible on my

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-22 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 23.02.2012, Tom Horsley wrote: > I don't see it as a problem, I see it as yet another thing > that will help hasten the demise of flash. For me as a student, this will force me to buy and use Windows immediately, which I haven't used since Windows 3.1. It is absolutely crucial for me to be a

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-22 Thread Nataraj
On 02/22/2012 11:52 AM, Alchemist wrote: > 2012/2/22 Greg Woods : >> On Wed, 2012-02-22 at 20:19 +0200, Alchemist wrote: >>> http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/02/adobe-and-google-partnering-for-flash-player-on-linux.html >> That appears to say that the Flash plugin for 64-bit Linux will only

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 02/23/2012 03:47 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > > Also let's not forget that Google is pushing HTML5 and that means H.264 > for now. Not sure why you claim that since Google open sourced VP8 and YouTube is encoding by default to WebM and displaying in WebM automatically if Flash player is not in

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-22 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:18:16 -0700 "Nex6" wrote: > > Here is the adobe link: > http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/02/adobe-and-google-partnering-for-flash-player-on-linux.html > > and it says they are changing APIs, and will support the current API/plugins > (11.2) for 5 years. > > a

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-22 Thread Rick Stevens
On 02/22/2012 12:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote: Joe Zeff wrote: Why? All of the Microsoft fanbois will have it and you'll be able to use it on your Mac. Like it or not, that's well over 90% of the market, and to Adobe, that's all that matters. Not any more: they’ve never had Flash on iPhone

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-22 Thread James Wilkinson
Joe Zeff wrote: > Why? All of the Microsoft fanbois will have it and you'll be able > to use it on your Mac. Like it or not, that's well over 90% of the > market, and to Adobe, that's all that matters. Not any more: they’ve never had Flash on iPhone or iPad, a lot of Android devices don’t have i

RE: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-22 Thread Nex6
Original Message Subject: Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux From: Joe Zeff <j...@zeff.us> Date: Wed, February 22, 2012 1:11 pm To: Community support for Fedora users <users@lists.fedoraproject.org> On 02/22/2012 12:04 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: &

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/22/2012 12:04 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: I don't see it as a problem, I see it as yet another thing that will help hasten the demise of flash. Why? All of the Microsoft fanbois will have it and you'll be able to use it on your Mac. Like it or not, that's well over 90% of the market, and t

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-22 Thread Alchemist
2012/2/22 Tom Horsley : > On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:52:29 +0200 > Alchemist wrote: > >> then this is a real problem for Linux users i think. > > I don't see it as a problem, I see it as yet another thing > that will help hasten the demise of flash.t > -- Yes, for example using html5 in future. But if

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:52:29 +0200 Alchemist wrote: > then this is a real problem for Linux users i think. I don't see it as a problem, I see it as yet another thing that will help hasten the demise of flash. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscripti

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-22 Thread Alchemist
2012/2/22 Greg Woods : > On Wed, 2012-02-22 at 20:19 +0200, Alchemist wrote: >> http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/02/adobe-and-google-partnering-for-flash-player-on-linux.html > > That appears to say that the Flash plugin for 64-bit Linux will only be > distributed as part of the Chrome brows

Re: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux

2012-02-22 Thread Greg Woods
On Wed, 2012-02-22 at 20:19 +0200, Alchemist wrote: > http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/02/adobe-and-google-partnering-for-flash-player-on-linux.html That appears to say that the Flash plugin for 64-bit Linux will only be distributed as part of the Chrome browser? That is certainly not good