On 03/13/2013 09:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 03/14/13 09:22, Dan Irwin wrote:
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:48 AM, Tony Camuso
wrote:
But, yes, if F17 installs to that partition and F18 does not,
then it's a regression.
Has the original poster filed a bugzilla on this yet?
No he hasn't, for vari
On 03/13/2013 09:22 PM, Dan Irwin wrote:
No he hasn't, for various reasons :-) Should I file one? I have
nothing but a vague memory of the sequence of the problems/dialogs.
bugzilla wants clear steps to reproduce the bug. The more info the
better, except that log files should be attachments, no
On 03/14/13 09:22, Dan Irwin wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:48 AM, Tony Camuso wrote:
>> But, yes, if F17 installs to that partition and F18 does not, then it's
>> a regression.
>>
>> Has the original poster filed a bugzilla on this yet?
> No he hasn't, for various reasons :-) Should I file on
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:48 AM, Tony Camuso wrote:
> But, yes, if F17 installs to that partition and F18 does not, then it's
> a regression.
>
> Has the original poster filed a bugzilla on this yet?
No he hasn't, for various reasons :-) Should I file one? I have
nothing but a vague memory of the
On 03/13/2013 08:15 AM, Ian Malone wrote:
On 13 March 2013 12:15, Ian Malone wrote:
It's possible something like this is the problem, but if Fedora 17 can
be installed and if fdisk or something else can see the free space
then there's no reason F18's anaconda shouldn't be able to do it.
Sor
On 13 March 2013 12:15, Ian Malone wrote:
> It's possible something like this is the problem, but if Fedora 17 can
> be installed and if fdisk or something else can see the free space
> then there's no reason F18's anaconda shouldn't be able to do it.
>
Sorry, meant "no *good* reason."
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On 13 March 2013 12:05, Tony Camuso wrote:
> On 03/12/2013 06:59 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
>>
>> On 03/12/2013 06:53 PM, Dan Irwin wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:42 AM, Tim
>>> wrote:
>>>
I think you should say *exactly* what you did with fdisk, each step.
Because it s
On 03/12/2013 06:59 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 03/12/2013 06:53 PM, Dan Irwin wrote:
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:42 AM, Tim wrote:
I think you should say *exactly* what you did with fdisk, each step.
Because it still sounds like what you think is "creating free space,"
probably isn't
On 12 March 2013 22:47, Dan Irwin wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
>> I see you've moved on from this now, but can you remember whether you
>> tried the continue button at the bottom right of the destination
>> screen please?
>> http://imalone.fedorapeople.org/DSCN5493.
On 03/12/2013 07:17 PM, Dan Irwin wrote:
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
wrote:
Only because you have data on there is why you're trying it this way? My
sister had a similar problem, but the solution was so left-of-center that I
just had to have her do it again on a spare
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
wrote:
> Only because you have data on there is why you're trying it this way? My
> sister had a similar problem, but the solution was so left-of-center that I
> just had to have her do it again on a spare machine JUST to see it for
> myself.
On 03/12/2013 06:53 PM, Dan Irwin wrote:
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:42 AM, Tim wrote:
I think you should say *exactly* what you did with fdisk, each step.
Because it still sounds like what you think is "creating free space,"
probably isn't the same as what we might have done.
What i did exact
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:42 AM, Tim wrote:
> I think you should say *exactly* what you did with fdisk, each step.
> Because it still sounds like what you think is "creating free space,"
> probably isn't the same as what we might have done.
What i did exactly with fdisk was this:
Switch to a v
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
> I see you've moved on from this now, but can you remember whether you
> tried the continue button at the bottom right of the destination
> screen please?
> http://imalone.fedorapeople.org/DSCN5493.JPG
> The screen would look like this:
> http://
Allegedly, on or about 11 March 2013, Dan Irwin sent:
> I even dropped to a shell, and used fdisk to blow away my windows 7
> partition, and the installer still doesn't work properly!
I think you should say *exactly* what you did with fdisk, each step.
Because it still sounds like what you think
On 11 March 2013 23:10, Dan Irwin wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Ian Malone wrote:
At what point does it tell you 'error checking storage configuration' and
what does fdisk -l on the disc show?
>>>
>>> This is on the "main" installer screen in F18.
>>>
>>
>> The 'hub' model
On 3-12-13 14:23:17 zoom itman wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Dan Irwin wrote:
> > So I'm trying to get F18 onto my new Dell laptop
>
> So I have Fedora 17 installed on there now. That was quite painless.
>
> Moving to 18, can I just install fedora-release from 18 and do a yum
> updat
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Dan Irwin wrote:
> So I'm trying to get F18 onto my new Dell laptop
So I have Fedora 17 installed on there now. That was quite painless.
Moving to 18, can I just install fedora-release from 18 and do a yum
update or upgrade?
Looking for suggestions from people w
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 09:43:20 +1000
Dan Irwin wrote:
> Now for the tough question. Should I just stick with F17, or use this
> "fedup" to go to F18?
A lot of folks seem to think "yum upgrade" is safer and
more reliable than fedup.
I used a completely different technique: Copied a fedora 18
virtua
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Dan Irwin wrote:
>
> The recovery partition should allow me to re-install windows, if I
> wanted to. I don't want to.
>
So I re-installed Windows, which took about 5 minutes. Back to factory.
Now I am installing Fedora 17 netinst iso, and so far I have:
- booted
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Ian Malone wrote:
>>> At what point does it tell you 'error checking storage configuration' and
>>> what does fdisk -l on the disc show?
>>
>> This is on the "main" installer screen in F18.
>>
>
> The 'hub' model means I'm going to have to ask at which point, beca
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 08:36:18 +1000
> Dan Irwin wrote:
>
>> I imagine if I blew away those partitions too, then Fedora 18 would
>> install. But I do like keeping the Dell stuff around, for emergencies.
>
> Why? The only thing the dell tools can
On 11 March 2013 22:49, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 08:36:18 +1000
> Dan Irwin wrote:
>
>> I imagine if I blew away those partitions too, then Fedora 18 would
>> install. But I do like keeping the Dell stuff around, for emergencies.
>
> Why? The only thing the dell tools can recover i
On 11 March 2013 22:36, Dan Irwin wrote:
> I blew away the big windows partition, but I left the Dell system and
> recovery partitions. Which equates to about 15 gig of space.
>
> I imagine if I blew away those partitions too, then Fedora 18 would
> install. But I do like keeping the Dell stuff a
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 08:36:18 +1000
Dan Irwin wrote:
> I imagine if I blew away those partitions too, then Fedora 18 would
> install. But I do like keeping the Dell stuff around, for emergencies.
Why? The only thing the dell tools can recover is windows,
and you blew that away already.
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On 11 March 2013 20:37, Alan Evans wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Ian Malone wrote:
>>
>>
>> Why? I can partition, but I don't really want to make a hobby of it.
>> There's a strong argument to be made for sensible defaults to avoid
>> many people having to do identical tedious set-ups
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
> To be clear, you've wiped all the partitions on the disc, but the
> installer is refusing to allocate new ones?
Not quite.
I blew away the big windows partition, but I left the Dell system and
recovery partitions. Which equates to about 15 g
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Ian Malone wrote:
>
> Why? I can partition, but I don't really want to make a hobby of it.
> There's a strong argument to be made for sensible defaults to avoid
> many people having to do identical tedious set-ups.
>
Sensible defaults are fine. The problem is tha
On 03/11/2013 10:49 AM, Ian Malone wrote:
Why? I can partition, but I don't really want to make a hobby of it.
There's a strong argument to be made for sensible defaults to avoid
many people having to do identical tedious set-ups.
Yes: sensible defaults, with a reasonable easy way to customize
On 11 March 2013 17:34, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 02:32:08PM +1000, Dan Irwin wrote:
>
> snip
>
>> Linux distros need to learn to not cater for novices. If you can't
>> partition, you shouldn't be running Linux.
>
> I've been beating the drum about t
On 03/11/2013 10:34 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote:
I've been beating the drum about this for years. It's not just
partitioning. The various OSs have been being dumbed down for some
time, especially the DEs.
I know people who still believe that Linux and Unix are simply job
programs for gurus becau
There's always a way to get Linux to do what you need it to do: install
F16upgrade to 17 then upgrade to 18?...
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On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 02:32:08PM +1000, Dan Irwin wrote:
snip
> Linux distros need to learn to not cater for novices. If you can't
> partition, you shouldn't be running Linux.
I've been beating the drum about this for years. It's not just
partitioning. The various OSs
On 11 March 2013 04:32, Dan Irwin wrote:
> So I'm trying to get F18 onto my new Dell laptop (e6530). Not
> surprisingly, it's not working.
>
> The installer won't let me install. It won't find free space. It won't
> shrink partitions.
>
> I even dropped to a shell, and used fdisk to blow away my w
On 11 March 2013 09:51, Tim wrote:
> Allegedly, on or about 11 March 2013, Dan Irwin sent:
>> The installer won't let me install. It won't find free space. It won't
>> shrink partitions.
>>
>> I even dropped to a shell, and used fdisk to blow away my windows 7
>> partition, and the installer still
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 11 March 2013, Dan Irwin sent:
The installer won't let me install. It won't find free space. It won't
shrink partitions.
I even dropped to a shell, and used fdisk to blow away my windows 7
partition, and the installer still doesn't work pr
I would go with CentOS then..less headaches.at least IMHO
On Mar 11, 2013 12:59 AM, "Dan Irwin" wrote:
> It might, if I had a Fedora 17 ISO or installer on my network.
>
> I am just downloading the netinst iso, in the hope I can get a working
> OS on this laptop.
>
> I do have a CentO
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:32:08 +1000
Dan Irwin wrote:
> I even dropped to a shell, and used fdisk to blow away my windows 7
> partition, and the installer still doesn't work properly!
If you've already blown away windows, I'd suggest getting into
the shell again and using dd to copy a few meg of /d
Allegedly, on or about 11 March 2013, Dan Irwin sent:
> The installer won't let me install. It won't find free space. It won't
> shrink partitions.
>
> I even dropped to a shell, and used fdisk to blow away my windows 7
> partition, and the installer still doesn't work properly!
I haven't tried
It might, if I had a Fedora 17 ISO or installer on my network.
I am just downloading the netinst iso, in the hope I can get a working
OS on this laptop.
I do have a CentOS mirror locally, and noticed 6.4 has started to come
in. That is my other option right now.
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 2:36 PM,
What about installing F17& doing the " fedup" procedure?... might that
work?
On Mar 11, 2013 12:32 AM, "Dan Irwin" wrote:
> So I'm trying to get F18 onto my new Dell laptop (e6530). Not
> surprisingly, it's not working.
>
> The installer won't let me install. It won't find free space. It
So I'm trying to get F18 onto my new Dell laptop (e6530). Not
surprisingly, it's not working.
The installer won't let me install. It won't find free space. It won't
shrink partitions.
I even dropped to a shell, and used fdisk to blow away my windows 7
partition, and the installer still doesn't wo
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