Re: Nouveau trouble

2015-05-04 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
On Thu, 30 Apr 2015 09:24:52 +0200 Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 09:18:02 +0200 > Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > > > On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:24:28 -0400 > > Matthew Miller wrote: > > >> I just ran into this with Fedora 22, and was pointed to

Re: Nouveau trouble

2015-04-30 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 09:18:02 +0200 Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:24:28 -0400 > Matthew Miller wrote: >> I just ran into this with Fedora 22, and was pointed to a libdrm 2.4.60 >> bug. If you downgrade to libdrm-2.4.59 (perhaps this build >> http:

Re: Nouveau trouble

2015-04-28 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:24:28 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 12:38:39AM +0200, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > > With a Dell Precision M4600, running Fedora 21, I've started > > experiencing troubles with my X sessions within the last six months. The &g

Nouveau trouble

2015-04-27 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
With a Dell Precision M4600, running Fedora 21, I've started experiencing troubles with my X sessions within the last six months. The symptoms is that X frezzes, and sometimes, but not always, I can switch to a VT and make a controlled shutdown. At other times, the machine is totally unresponsive,

Re: Doing "Secure Documents" in Fedora

2014-09-13 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 14:27:00 -0400 Mickey wrote: > I'm not sure, my Sister on her Fedora 20 box said she had gotten a > Secure Document of someone sending her Money and she said she couldn't > read it. > Until I can see what she is talking about tomorrow, I will get back to > you on it, I woul

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-12 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:20:50 -0600 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:52:51 +0200 > Wow, really? It's arrogant for me to state that I find some of the > things you don't care about nice to have all the time and to express my > sorrow that you don't? No. What makes you arrogant, is th

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-12 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:12:28 -0600 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:00:01 +0200 > Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > > > Funny how two different career paths can bring us to two radically > > different stances. May I ask what field you work in? My own > >

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-12 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:27:18 -0600 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:06:59 +0200 > Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > > > On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:37:13 -0600 > > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > > Well, sorry you think so. I think systemd is far from perfec

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-12 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 19:08:14 +0300 Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: > 2014-09-12 11:06 GMT+03:00 Anders Wegge Keller : > > Do you know of a place where I can find the analysis behind this > > assessment, or is it just your personal opinion? > > The recent initsystem debate [

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-12 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:03:43 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote: > Sorry, but I have to call "bull" on that. It absolutely is a single > process (/usr/lib/systemd/systemd). The fact it delegates its operations > does not make it "a collection of small processes" any more than, say, > xinetd is when it laun

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-12 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:37:13 -0600 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Well, sorry you think so. I think systemd is far from perfect, but it's > a good deal better than what we had before. Do you know of a place where I can find the analysis behind this assessment, or is it just your personal opinion? For me

Re: One of my systems stalls at start-up

2014-09-10 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
On Mon, 8 Sep 2014 08:51:28 +0200 Antonio M wrote: > When I start one of my systems, sometimes it stalls, even using Esc to see > what is going on, I cannot enter the text mode.If I issue a Ctrl+Alt+Del, > it switches to text mode but it is so fast that I cannot read anything.. > > Any advice is

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-09 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 11:18:06 -0400 Kelly Miller wrote: > Yeah, they did... and refuted every single point made there, multiple > times. Can you point out a place where those refutes can be found? I want to see how one goes about refuting an objective statement. -- //Wegge -- users mailing l

Re: HD Video editing

2014-08-22 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:07:36 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 08/22/14 18:05, Ed Greshko wrote: > > A quick test shows that avidemux can edit the file. I've not checked to > > see if some components from RPM Fusion are required. And, I've not > > check to see if there is any loss in quality when st

HD Video editing

2014-08-22 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
Which video editing software is capable of editing HD video? I understand that there are complications wrt. patents, so I know I'll probably have to build it myself. That's not a big deal, but I'd rather not have to try out several different packages, before finding somethuing that's suitable.

Re: Claws mail and SSL certificates

2014-07-24 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
bitlord writes: > On Thu, 2014-07-24 at 07:43 +0200, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > > results in a complete verification of the certificate chain, ending > > with the root CA. The root ca is include in ca-certificates, so I > > would expect Claws to check there, rather t

Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-24 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
Rahul Sundaram writes: > Hi > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > > > > > > > make menuconfig will modify a configuration file, placed below > > /usr. > > > That isn't a RPM package placing those configurat

Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-24 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
Rahul Sundaram writes: > Hi > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > > > Instead of having to guess at the meaning, why not just state the > > intention without the absolutism? > I don't think anyone else was confused about what

Is this a known problem?

2014-07-24 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
When updating from f19 to f20 with fedup, I get a weird dependency problem: WARNING: problems were encountered during transaction test: broken dependencies nodejs-grunt-cli-0.1.13-1.fc20.noarch requires nodejs-grunt-cli-0.1.13-1.fc20.noarch gnome-rdp-0.3.1.0-7.fc20.x86_64 requires gno

Re: Claws mail and SSL certificates

2014-07-23 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
bitlord writes: > Depends on the version of claws-mail and libetpan, >=claws-mail-3.10 > and compiled with >=libetpan-1.4 (or 1.4.1) is able to properly > verify certificate chain, previous versions don't. On f20 it works > fine after upgrade (claws-mail-3.10.1 is available, and libetpan-1.5 > fr

Claws mail and SSL certificates

2014-07-23 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
When acessing my mail, news or whatever from Claws Mail, I invariably get at message, telling that the SSL certificate is unknown. However, connecting to the same server with openssl s_client -connect rollo.jernurt.dk:993 -verify 5 results in a complete verification of the certificate chain,

Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-23 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
Rahul Sundaram writes: > Hi > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > > > > > The specific wording: "requires users to modify files below /usr". > > > > I am not sure picking up some words without the context

Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-22 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
Joe Zeff writes: > On 07/22/2014 12:26 PM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > > Ralf Corsepius writes: > > > >> A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration > >> files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr > >>

Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-22 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
Ralf Corsepius writes: > A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration > files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr > is broken by design. Both python and perl come with mechanisms to add their respective native packages under /usr/lib/... Do you c

Re: Is this proof that systemd is completely broken?

2014-07-13 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
poma writes: > Besides why would anyone spend valuable time on outdated network > scripts on top of something called > http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man8/systemd-networkd.8.html IMO, if you cannot think of applications, where systemd is inappropriate, you do not have the maturity to go out an

Re: Is this proof that systemd is completely broken?

2014-07-12 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
Joe Zeff writes: > On 07/12/2014 01:34 PM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > > In this case, the wheel will get a pail of water, when the squeek > > starts smoldering. So - even if I jinx my effort by stating the > > intention - my best option is angst-inducing vague posts o

Re: Is this proof that systemd is completely broken?

2014-07-12 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
Sam Varshavchik writes: > I think that systemd should not be fixed. I think it should be > dumped, and replaced. It's fundamentally broken, even without this > latest fallout. So, why would I want to report systemd bugs, and > help improve it? I can't think of any reason why I'd want to do > that

Re: Is this proof that systemd is completely broken?

2014-07-12 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
Joe Zeff writes: > On 07/12/2014 01:20 PM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > > Why bother? When trying to diagnose the problem, I found several > > well-documented bug reports with the soame contet. Some were almost > > old enough to get rid of their diapers. They haven't

Re: Is this proof that systemd is completely broken?

2014-07-12 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
Kevin Fenzi writes: > On 12 Jul 2014 21:52:22 +0200 > Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > > > Kevin Fenzi writes: > > > > > What would you suggest people do when they find a bug? Reporting it > > > to the people who can fix it is very much more likely to g

Re: Is this proof that systemd is completely broken?

2014-07-12 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
Joe Zeff writes: > On 07/12/2014 12:52 PM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > > I'm affected by a systemd bug, that I have no intention of > > reporting. My workaround takes me far less time, than getting through > > the endless layers of fanboys would. > > You

Re: Is this proof that systemd is completely broken?

2014-07-12 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
Kevin Fenzi writes: > What would you suggest people do when they find a bug? Reporting it > to the people who can fix it is very much more likely to get it > fixed or worked around than complaining about it in a place where no > one will fix it. Seeing the recent reactions in this list, what's