Hello, I would be out of station for probably a month or more

2013-12-15 Thread AP
Hello friends, I am going out station for probably one (or more time)I would miss this mailing listBut I would see the same when I would be back...I just want to wish all of you a new year! -- Reagards, AP -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-12-01 Thread AP
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 1:06 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > What you wrote has nothing to do with what you quoted. The OP has known to me now...Its over but my mean to say was that some people like "g" (who are without names), actually extend it to increase the flame of war. -- users mailing list

Re: Why some say "rpm elysium"

2013-12-01 Thread AP
And here I am sending this message from Firefox and using www.gmail.com. I don't know why it is a problem!! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedor

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-12-01 Thread AP
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 1:40 AM, David wrote: > Ya'll have seen the AP is gone yet the thread goes on and on? :-) Because the name "g" is mental deficient. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin

Re: is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-29 Thread AP
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > So, you've got some homework to do. Figure out in which unusual way you > reply to messages from this mailing-list so that the "References:" and > "In-Reply-To:" headers are missing in your mails. At Google Mail, prefer > the Reply button

Re: is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-29 Thread AP
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:00 PM, g wrote: > 'ap' is not _normal_. ;=) LOL, you yourself are not normal!! And you great name 'g'...lmao!! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: Why some say "rpm elysium"

2013-11-29 Thread AP
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:58 PM, g wrote: > yes, i am aware. You are not in aware of what you talk and say. Asking questions is not being a troll!! Further you yourself seem a troll. Annovira. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: h

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-28 Thread AP
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:05 AM, Garry T. Williams wrote: > As to why this guy among all the others here is posting broken > messages, I am betting g is correct. Man, you bet without any guarantee! There seems no logic. Asking questions and gaining from user's experiences counts, no more a troll

Re: is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-28 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Yes, that's very likely. Which browser is it? Opera and Firefox both. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code

Re: is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-28 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Check this how this list's archive: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-November/thread.html > You can clearly see the breakage you are causing: All of your postings start > a new thread, i.e. replies of yours do not app

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-28 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > Deliberate or not, it was at least interesting. If using a separate > client it can be quite easy, but that normally leaves a more apparent This mail really did the exact the same break of thread and appears in my Inbox as a separate mail, no

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-28 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 5:50 AM, Tim wrote: > And the headers are still missing. > What happens if you don't block scripting while you're doing this? > Enable it before you hit reply, type your reply, then send it. Scripting!! There is no additional add-on installed in Opera!! -- users mai

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-28 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 10:31 AM, poma wrote: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/11/msg01470.html > This dude is obviously a spammer, and for you dgboles it seems to be a > rather enjoyable. > Good to know. So what? You can ask in different places to know the experiences and knowledge of

Re: is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-28 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > No, AP's replies don't contain any "References:" or "In-Reply-To:" > headers. I really don't know about it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.o

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-27 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:23 AM, David wrote: > Frankly I find it hard to comprehend just how the browser and any of > it's settings, would have any interaction with an email written on the > Gmail Web interface, or any email interface. I wonder to think this but I never earlier noted all this

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-27 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:23 AM, David wrote: > https://www.box.com/shared/78msc32ktf0k6oed51wq Almost everything is technical -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Co

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-27 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Ian Malone wrote: > I think this is the right attitude, adblock, noscript etc. are things > you use to protect you online, not for protection of your emails. E.g. > it's your gmail account rather than the emails you're sending with it > that you are trying to pro

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-27 Thread AP
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Tim wrote: > It's still missing the headers. Give the other browser a try, and we'll > see if that change things. Likewise, you could try changing some of the > privacy settings. Well, I am replying from Opera browser right now. > There's little point in tryi

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-26 Thread AP
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > (I think, google do tend to change things). Yes. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedorap

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-26 Thread AP
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Tim wrote: > Are you running some extra privacy options in your browser or gmail? > Are you actually using the "reply" function, or are you mistakenly > forwarding? I am using extra privacy options in the Firefox but not in Opera. Sometimes I use Opera also and o

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-25 Thread AP
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Tim wrote: > What happens when you break mail, in one way or another: Your replies > are not seen with the messages that they're related to. They get > missed, they get overlooked. It gets very hard to follow an ongoing > thread when all the messages in that th

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-24 Thread AP
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Beartooth wrote: > Say you want Opera on an old machine that you haven't used for > some time. You go to a browser it does have, but for some reason the > default opera.com offers isn't what you want. You find what you do want, > and opera.com asks whethe

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-24 Thread AP
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Tim wrote: > It doesn't require gmail to get messages threaded. Threading is done by > the message headers, each message has its own message ID, each reply has > another header saying which message ID it's in reply to, and there's > another header listing all the

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-23 Thread AP
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:02 PM, g wrote: > On 11/23/2013 01:59 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > your postings thread and i am wondering you would post a new > "Subject:" relating to how you are using a gmail account and > still maintain threading. No, not like that. Read the following two lines he

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-23 Thread AP
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > That's one thing I don't like, actually. Google is now constantly annoying > me to select which profile I use, after pestering me for months to get a > Unified login, I said I don't want, (repeatedly) so now I have separate > profiles (ide

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-23 Thread AP
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > I for one use GMail for my email needs, and I'm as far from an e-mail noob > as you can get (started with Delphi on-line service in the late 1980s, then > moved to FidoNet style echomail boards, then moved to CompuServe, then to > pop-3 em

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-22 Thread AP
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> Exactly true. Its more like the analogy of cars. Some people prefer >> Ford, some Chevrolet, others like Mercedes-Benz better, but ultimately >> they all have an engine that runs on fuel. > A better analogy that involves cars needs some add

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-22 Thread AP
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Steven Rosenberg wrote: > Whenever you go "outside" the distribution and start picking up packages, be > they .deb or .rpm, you invite trouble with dependencies, especially if those > packages are not built for your particular release. Okay you mean especially wh

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-22 Thread AP
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > I think "g" was trying to make peace and you may have misunderstood > his comments. Please, let's be polite to each other and not > insulting. My intention was not to handle someone with gloves but I don't understand why people consider

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-22 Thread AP
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:21 PM, g wrote: [crap] > as in usage as a _noun_, which is defined at; This is really shameful to have people like you.. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-22 Thread AP
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: > Better/equal in precisely what? Well, now got the idea that work is being done very well in rpm distributions, so actually what I earlier asked, should not be asked. Anyways, I liked the rpm because at least all of my (noob's) work is smoothl

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-21 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > yum didn't always exist. yum handles the dependencies between packages. Ok. > Before that, a lot of prayer was involved if you mixed rpm packages from > different sources. You mean from third party sources. -- users mailing li

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-21 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: > What precisely are you asking for? Just wanted to know if rpm is better than apt or vice-versa or both are equal...or why did this bifurcation took place if the Linux is only the kernel...? Thanks. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedorapr

Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-21 Thread AP
Hello, Well I just heard a couple of guys saying "rpm hell". Now a days, when rpm works very well, still does it lag behind apt in some ways...? Thanks. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/lis

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-21 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Mihamina RKTMB wrote: > Technically, > - making rpms are easier than making debs. Oh, okay. > - apt is NOT the equivalent of rpm, but the equivalent of yum Okay, I must have used that. > - You forgot the package management of Gentoo, Arch and so on on your tro

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-21 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Greg Woods wrote: > Probably a reference to the very early days of RPM (pre-yum). You'd > install a package, then find some library was missing and go to install > that, which led to something else missing, etc. A few cycles of this and > you know what "dependenc