Stopped working after upgrade fm f41 to f42?? As
well postfix service didn't start after upgrade???
Had to enable postfix service first and start it..
Missing "Mail/Mailx" in f42???
These are my first impressions after upgrade. Where
to start look, how to get Logwatch working and repoting?
Jarmo
On 4/20/25 10:40 PM, Tim via users wrote:
On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 22:16 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote:
Wayland is still broken as far as I am concerned when it comes to
session restore stuff and new window placement. But I notice that I
can ssh to that system and run x11 apps (over the local net
On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 20:51 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> I rooted through all of the gory details, icccm, ewmh, and X11 primitives,
> some time ago. It's all there. The fly in the ointment is that the nuts and
> the bolts of it are difficult use, cumbersome, and lack some convenient
> feat
On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 22:16 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote:
> Wayland is still broken as far as I am concerned when it comes to
> session restore stuff and new window placement. But I notice that I
> can ssh to that system and run x11 apps (over the local network) no
> problem. Wayland supplies a
On Sunday, 20 April 2025 15:34:34 EDT Beartooth via users wrote:
> My spouse & I live in our own house, just the two of us, and such
> visitors as appear are adult friends. We've been running Fedora since it
> was RedHat7, with never a login screen. Nor has that absence ever made
> trouble
On Sunday, 20 April 2025 17:45:44 EDT Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> I estimate that I'll be able to use my setup for no more than 2-3
> years, max, before X11 is sacrificed on the altar of progress, and
> latest and greatest.
I just updated a workstation to f41 and didn't install the x11 KDE
componen
Patrick O'Callaghan writes:
On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 17:45 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> > One of the big problems with containers (including Flatpaks) is that
> > they don't integrate well with the desktop environment. Then the app
> > relies on the DE to (say) print things, there's usually some
Greetings,
When the flip to F41 from F40 occurred last October I posted some emails and received helpful replies regarding a collation issue; the message on this go around is:
WARNING: database "" has a collation version mismatch
DETAIL: The data
On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 17:45 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> > One of the big problems with containers (including Flatpaks) is that
> > they don't integrate well with the desktop environment. Then the app
> > relies on the DE to (say) print things, there's usually some jumping
> > through hoops to b
On 4/20/25 2:23 PM, richard emberson wrote:
What should I be looking for?
A couple of hours before I started the upgrade, I can see that 3
alacritty windows I had open in workspace 3
crashed. The Xterms I was using in workspace 1 for the upgrade were
still up and running.
And there was a zram
Joe Zeff writes:
On 04/20/2025 06:14 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
I think what this is, overall, is watching idiocracy evolve, in realtime.
Personally, I've always considered Ubuntu to be designed for Windows
refugees. They want to get away from the built in problems of Windows but
don't
Patrick O'Callaghan writes:
On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 08:14 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>
> The Firefox snap in Ubuntu doesn't even start in a VNC session. Everyone
> appears to be ok with fiddling with environment variables, in order to do
> that. Nobody appears to believe that there's something
On 20/04/25 13:30, Samuel Sieb wrote:
What's at the end of the journal?
I rebooted at 12:01, I assume it hung at 10:03
As root: journalctl -S 2025-04-20
.
Apr 20 10:03:13 olympia dnf5[745]: [1441/4424] Upgrading python3-libsemana 100%
| 3.8 MiB/s | 383.6 KiB | 00m00s
Apr 20 10:03:
On 4/20/25 12:53 PM, richard emberson wrote:
Upgrading my systems from 41 to 42.
Three laptops and media server went smoothly.
So, decided to upgrade my desktop (main) machine:
# dnf upgrade --refresh
Success
# reboot
Success
# dnf install dnf-plugin-system-upgrade
Repositories loaded.
Package "
On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 19:34:34 - (UTC), Beartooth via users wrote:
> My spouse & I live in our own house, just the two of us, and
> such visitors as appear are adult friends. We've been running Fedora
> since it was RedHat7, with never a login screen. Nor has that absence
> ever made troub
On 4/20/25 12:34 PM, Beartooth via users wrote:
My spouse & I live in our own house, just the two of us, and such
visitors as appear are adult friends. We've been running Fedora since it
was RedHat7, with never a login screen. Nor has that absence ever made
trouble.
Now F42 has
Since it took me some effort to setup a working, reproducible environment
for running Sionna 1.0.2 on Fedora (42), I have shared my instructions here:
https://github.com/nbecker/fedora-ml-setup
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*Those who don't understand recursion are doomed to repeat it*
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Upgrading my systems from 41 to 42.
Three laptops and media server went smoothly.
So, decided to upgrade my desktop (main) machine:
# dnf upgrade --refresh
Success
# reboot
Success
# dnf install dnf-plugin-system-upgrade
Repositories loaded.
Package "dnf-plugins-core-4.10.1-1.fc41.noarch" is alre
My spouse & I live in our own house, just the two of us, and such
visitors as appear are adult friends. We've been running Fedora since it
was RedHat7, with never a login screen. Nor has that absence ever made
trouble.
Now F42 has inflicted one on our every PC. We HATE it. How
On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 11:54 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote:
> Personally, I've always considered Ubuntu to be designed for Windows
> refugees. They want to get away from the built in problems of Windows
> but don't want to learn how to do things properly.
I'd come to a similar conclusion. Windows refug
On 04/20/2025 06:14 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
I think what this is, overall, is watching idiocracy evolve, in realtime.
Personally, I've always considered Ubuntu to be designed for Windows
refugees. They want to get away from the built in problems of Windows
but don't want to learn how to
On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 08:14 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Tim via users writes:
>
> > 3) Thanks to sandboxing, or just plain lack of functionality,
> >we get apps that can't print, for instance.
> >
> > I've got ones that can't, I have to print to PDF, then find something
> > else to print
Tim via users writes:
3) Thanks to sandboxing, or just plain lack of functionality,
we get apps that can't print, for instance.
I've got ones that can't, I have to print to PDF, then find something
else to print that PDF (which will fail when they eventually appimage
the whatever that prints
Tim:
> > But I'd argue that the hierarchies were there for a good reason.
> > *Simple* no-access to some things for some people/software. *Simple*
> > more privileged access to things in /sbin to those who had it in their
> > path, and lesser privileged versions of a command with the same name to
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