Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/24 11:06 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/20/24 22:46, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/20/24 7:44 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/20/24 19:22, Samuel Sieb wrote: I never figured out how to get off 38's kernel That could end up being a problem. What does "dnf history | head

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/24 11:05 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/20/24 22:45, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/20/24 7:42 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/20/24 19:22, Samuel Sieb wrote: dnf system-upgrade log If it finds anything, you can run it again with the (I assume) number and get the logs.

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/20/24 22:46, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/20/24 7:44 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/20/24 19:22, Samuel Sieb wrote: I never figured out how to get off 38's kernel That could end up being a problem. What does "dnf history | head -10" show? # dnf history | head -10 Missing command

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/20/24 22:45, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/20/24 7:42 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/20/24 19:22, Samuel Sieb wrote: dnf system-upgrade log If it finds anything, you can run it again with the (I assume) number and get the logs. I am not sure I understand: # dnf system-upgrade log

Re: FEDORA Lists access

2024-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/24 8:49 PM, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Can access the test forum on hyperkitty but my old login doesn't give me access. Saw the note to log in using the Fedora access system so I set up a new account. Get  a fancy logo but see no way to go to the list. Nothing seems to be getting

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/24 7:44 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/20/24 19:22, Samuel Sieb wrote: I never figured out how to get off 38's kernel That could end up being a problem. What does "dnf history | head -10" show? # dnf history | head -10 Missing command. Add "--help" for more information abo

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/24 7:42 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/20/24 19:22, Samuel Sieb wrote: dnf system-upgrade log If it finds anything, you can run it again with the (I assume) number and get the logs. I am not sure I understand: # dnf system-upgrade log The following boots appear to contain

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/24 7:39 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/20/24 19:03, Felix Miata wrote: ToddAndMargo composed on 2024-10-20 18:22 (UTC-0700): # uname -a Linux foo.bar.local 6.5.10-200.fc38.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Nov  2 19:59:55 UTC 2023 x86_64 GNU/Linux I never figured out how t

FEDORA Lists access

2024-10-20 Thread Robert McBroom via users
Can access the test forum on hyperkitty but my old login doesn't give me access. Saw the note to log in using the Fedora access system so I set up a new account. Get  a fancy logo but see no way to go to the list. Nothing seems to be getting posted on the mailing list. -- _

Re: Fedora 41 Install: Black Screen

2024-10-20 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 10/20/24 7:18 PM, John Mellor wrote: On 2024-10-20 17:23, Barry wrote: On 20 Oct 2024, at 13:53, John Mellor wrote: I have an older Fedora 40 machine that I tried to install Fedora 41 on, and got a surprise. For a first attempt, I tried the as-documented dnf system-upgrade steps on a fu

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/20/24 19:22, Samuel Sieb wrote: I never figured out how to get off 38's kernel That could end up being a problem. What does "dnf history | head -10" show? # dnf history | head -10 Missing command. Add "--help" for more information about the arguments. If you look at the output of "dnf

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/20/24 19:03, Felix Miata wrote: ToddAndMargo composed on 2024-10-20 18:22 (UTC-0700): # uname -a Linux foo.bar.local 6.5.10-200.fc38.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Nov 2 19:59:55 UTC 2023 x86_64 GNU/Linux I never figured out how to get off 38's kernel Is there any kernel strin

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/20/24 19:22, Samuel Sieb wrote: dnf system-upgrade log If it finds anything, you can run it again with the (I assume) number and get the logs. I am not sure I understand: # dnf system-upgrade log The following boots appear to contain offline transaction logs: 1 / 86dede181d25447f94a945

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/24 6:22 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/20/24 17:41, Samuel Sieb wrote: The order of the commands seems kind of odd, but it might work. What is your preference3? This was discussed in the other email. You didn't actually run the commands, so it's not relevant. Re-instal

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread Felix Miata
ToddAndMargo composed on 2024-10-20 18:22 (UTC-0700): > # uname -a > Linux foo.bar.local 6.5.10-200.fc38.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu > Nov 2 19:59:55 UTC 2023 x86_64 GNU/Linux > I never figured out how to get off 38's kernel Is there any kernel string on an exclude= line in /etc/dnf/dnf.

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread Felix Miata
Jeffrey Walton composed on 2024-10-20 20:29 (UTC-0400): > You should use Fedora's process, and not some random crap from the > web. See > . > (Fedora 41 is called Rawhide at the moment until it is released. See >

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/20/24 18:04, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/20/24 5:52 PM, Jonathan Billings wrote: On Oct 20, 2024, at 19:25, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: # dnf system-upgrade -v reboot --debugsolver Will do nothing, since you deleted the packages it downloaded. I assumed the commands were listed out of

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/20/24 17:52, Jonathan Billings wrote: On Oct 20, 2024, at 19:25, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/20/24 13:55, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/20/24 7:27 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I just upgraded to 41. But dnf still loads 39's repos. And "rpm -qa" shows 39 on everything. How di

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/20/24 17:41, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/20/24 4:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/20/24 13:55, Samuel Sieb wrote: How did you upgrade? # rpm --rebuilddb # rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest    if anything is too new, do a # dnf downgrade offender(s) # dnf update --refresh # r

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/24 5:52 PM, Jonathan Billings wrote: On Oct 20, 2024, at 19:25, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: # dnf system-upgrade -v reboot --debugsolver Will do nothing, since you deleted the packages it downloaded. I assumed the commands were listed out of order, because I'm pretty sure that

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 8:57 PM Jonathan Billings wrote: > > On Oct 20, 2024, at 20:30, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > (Fedora 41 is called Rawhide at the moment until it is released. See > ). > > Fedora Linux 41 was branched from rawhide in Augu

Re: Fedora 41 Install: Black Screen

2024-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/24 4:18 PM, John Mellor wrote: On 2024-10-20 17:23, Barry wrote: On 20 Oct 2024, at 13:53, John Mellor wrote: I have an older Fedora 40 machine that I tried to install Fedora 41 on, and got a surprise. For a first attempt, I tried the as-documented dnf system-upgrade steps on a full

Re: Fedora 41 sshd not starting with ...

2024-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/24 5:09 PM, old sixpack13 wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: ... The Fedora Test list is preferable for unreleased software. poc Meine Fresse :-( What's your problem? It was a completely valid comment. If you're having an issue with a not released Fedora version, you should

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Oct 20, 2024, at 20:30, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > (Fedora 41 is called Rawhide at the moment until it is released. See > ). Fedora Linux 41 was branched from rawhide in August of this year. Rawhide is now tracking 42. https://fedorapeop

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Oct 20, 2024, at 19:25, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > On 10/20/24 13:55, Samuel Sieb wrote: >>> On 10/20/24 7:27 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >>> I just upgraded to 41. But dnf still loads 39's repos. >>> And "rpm -qa" shows 39 on everything. >> How did you upgrade? > > # rpm --re

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/24 4:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/20/24 13:55, Samuel Sieb wrote: How did you upgrade? # rpm --rebuilddb # rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest   if anything is too new, do a     # dnf downgrade offender(s) # dnf update --refresh # reboot   and repeat the above update unt

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 8:18 PM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > On 10/20/24 17:09, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 10/20/24 4:34 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > >> More info: > >> > >> # dnf install fedora-beta-repo > > > > I don't know what you're expecting that to do. That package doesn't > > s

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/20/24 17:09, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/20/24 4:34 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: More info: # dnf install fedora-beta-repo I don't know what you're expecting that to do.  That package doesn't seem to exist anywhere in Fedora.  Where did you see that? Pesky AI's ! https://search

Re: Fedora 41 sshd not starting with ...

2024-10-20 Thread old sixpack13
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: ... > > The Fedora Test list is preferable for unreleased software. > poc Meine Fresse :-( -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fed

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/24 4:34 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: More info: # dnf install fedora-beta-repo I don't know what you're expecting that to do. That package doesn't seem to exist anywhere in Fedora. Where did you see that? -- ___ users mailing list

Re: Fedora 41 Install: Black Screen

2024-10-20 Thread John Mellor
On 2024-10-20 17:23, Barry wrote: On 20 Oct 2024, at 13:53, John Mellor wrote: I have an older Fedora 40 machine that I tried to install Fedora 41 on, and got a surprise. For a first attempt, I tried the as-documented dnf system-upgrade steps on a fully working and stock Fedora 40. Upon reb

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/20/24 16:25, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/20/24 13:55, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/20/24 7:27 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I just upgraded to 41.  But dnf still loads 39's repos. And "rpm -qa" shows 39 on everything. How did you upgrade? # rpm --rebuilddb # rpm -Va --nofiles

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/20/24 13:55, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/20/24 7:27 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I just upgraded to 41.  But dnf still loads 39's repos. And "rpm -qa" shows 39 on everything. How did you upgrade? # rpm --rebuilddb # rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest if anything is too new, do a

xscreensaver blank screen

2024-10-20 Thread Geoffrey Leach
After installing 6.11.3-200.fc40.x86_64 (full upgrade) and rebooting, xscreensaver produces a blank screen. Configuration unchanged Settings preview produces the correct display (several choices) Xfce4 environment, so X11 Other sources of display (mplayer, eg) work as expected The author of xscree

Re: Fedora 41 Install: Black Screen

2024-10-20 Thread Barry
> On 20 Oct 2024, at 13:53, John Mellor wrote: > > I have an older Fedora 40 machine that I tried to install Fedora 41 on, and > got a surprise. > > For a first attempt, I tried the as-documented dnf system-upgrade steps on a > fully working and stock Fedora 40. Upon reboot to actually do

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/24 7:27 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I just upgraded to 41.  But dnf still loads 39's repos. And "rpm -qa" shows 39 on everything. How did you upgrade? What did you upgrade from? # cat /etc/redhat-release Fedora release 41 (Forty One) # rpm -qa gcc gcc-13.3.1-3.fc39.x86_64 rp

Re: Is 41 on rc yet?

2024-10-20 Thread Andre Robatino
BTW, you can see the 41 Final blockers and freeze exceptions at https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/41/final/buglist . The 41 RC composes happen at https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/41/ and get synced to https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/ . -- __

Re: why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/20/24 07:27, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I just upgraded to 41.  But dnf still loads 39's repos. And "rpm -qa" shows 39 on everything. # cat /etc/redhat-release Fedora release 41 (Forty One) # rpm -qa gcc gcc-13.3.1-3.fc39.x86_64 What the heck -T # cat /etc/os-release

Re: dnf upgrade conflicts

2024-10-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-10-20 at 05:46 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > # dnf upgrade > ... > Transaction failed: Rpm transaction failed. >    - file /etc/dnf/dnf.conf from install of > libdnf5-5.2.6.2-1.fc41.x86_64 conflicts with file from package > dnf-data-4.21.1-1.fc39.noarch >    - file /usr/shar

why am I still on 39?

2024-10-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, I just upgraded to 41. But dnf still loads 39's repos. And "rpm -qa" shows 39 on everything. # cat /etc/redhat-release Fedora release 41 (Forty One) # rpm -qa gcc gcc-13.3.1-3.fc39.x86_64 What the heck -T -- ~~ Computers are like air condition

Fedora 41 Install: Black Screen

2024-10-20 Thread John Mellor
I have an older Fedora 40 machine that I tried to install Fedora 41 on, and got a surprise. For a first attempt, I tried the as-documented dnf system-upgrade steps on a fully working and stock Fedora 40.  Upon reboot to actually do the install steps, a black screen is presented and everything

dnf upgrade conflicts

2024-10-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, ? # dnf upgrade ... Transaction failed: Rpm transaction failed. - file /etc/dnf/dnf.conf from install of libdnf5-5.2.6.2-1.fc41.x86_64 conflicts with file from package dnf-data-4.21.1-1.fc39.noarch - file /usr/share/man/man5/dnf.conf.5.gz from install of dnf5-5.2.6.2-1.fc41.x8

Re: Nvidia Drivers from Akmods not Working at KDE/Gnome Startup

2024-10-20 Thread Barry
> On 20 Oct 2024, at 11:07, Stephen Morris wrote: > > The nvidia driver for kernel 6.10.12 has stopped working again as the signing > keys for some reason have been knocked out again, Wild guess. Do you need to replace the motherboard battery? Is your nvram losing its content maybe? Barry

Re: version numbers - rpmfusion nvidia driver and kernel.

2024-10-20 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Oct 19, 2024, at 20:52, Bob Marčan via users wrote: > A kind of windows registry and systemd are a good example of this. > And don't apologize systemd for how much the boot time has shortened. > How often does the system need start or restart? > Not to mention that it looks like systemd will r