Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-25 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2024-08-25 at 08:51 +0100, Barry wrote: > The RTC wake powers on the system. But a suspended system is > already powered up and kernel is in charge. I wouldn't say so. It's barely powered up, and you're relying on firmware to control waking it up. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119

Re: Can't ssh into fedora container (lxc): redux

2024-08-25 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Aug 25, 2024 at 11:30 PM Mike Wright wrote: > > Now that sshd is working as a service I tried to ssh in and got bounced > out. Trying again with ssh -v FED ( container's name ) yields: > > debug1: Server accepts key: /home/mike/... > > journalctl -xeu sshd shows: > > FED unix_chkpwd[881]:

Re: Reboot timeout

2024-08-25 Thread Tim via users
Fulko Hew: > > But 'shutdown' provided all the housekeeping work such as: > > - disabling logins > > - sending out messages to users screen warning them of the impending > > doom > > - providing grace time > > - unmounted file systems > > - killed the system Patrick O'Callaghan: > Same here. Howev

Can't ssh into fedora container (lxc): redux

2024-08-25 Thread Mike Wright
Hi all, Now that sshd is working as a service I tried to ssh in and got bounced out. Trying again with ssh -v FED ( container's name ) yields: debug1: Server accepts key: /home/mike/... journalctl -xeu sshd shows: FED unix_chkpwd[881]: could not obtain user info (mike) FED sshd[735]: fatal:

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-25 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 8/25/24 12:51 AM, Barry wrote: On 24 Aug 2024, at 12:18, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: If the RTC can wake the system from hibernation, why can't it wake it from suspension? The RTC wake powers on the system. But a suspended system is already powered up and kernel is in charge. Sort of.

can't ssh into fedora lxc-container

2024-08-25 Thread Mike Wright
Hi gurus, I've installed f40 as an lxc container named FED. Default image comes without an ssh server so I "dnf install openssh-server -y" followed by "systemctl start sshd". It fails. journalctl -xeu sshd shows this: "FED (sshd)[636]: sshd.service: Referenced but unset environment variab

Re: Strange laptop behavior #2

2024-08-25 Thread Paolo Galtieri
I did and everything worked.  But my apcupsd.conf file has NOLOGON disabled so the file should never have been created, or at least so I thought. Paolo On 8/25/24 11:36, Garry T. Williams wrote: On Friday, August 23, 2024 5:53:53 PM EDT Paolo Galtieri wrote: I previously sent a message reg

Re: Reboot timeout

2024-08-25 Thread Andy Paterson via users
And most importantly sending all running processes a hangup signal to allow them to save things that were volatile (like open files) then (if they were still alive) after the “timeout” had expired sending them a -9 signal to kill them, that was in the days of the “init” daemon, i assume systemd doe

Re: Fedora 40: the last three kernels fail

2024-08-25 Thread Barry Scott
> On 25 Aug 2024, at 11:43, Walter H. via users > wrote: > > or the kernels later than 6.10.3 are buggy and this need to be fixed(!) > > I tried the VM with latest VMware Wkstn. - same problem As I said VMware has a history of breaking on new kernels. Their hypervisor appears to "know" about

Re: Reboot timeout

2024-08-25 Thread Barry Scott
> On 25 Aug 2024, at 15:17, Fulko Hew wrote: > > Back in time, there was only 'shutdown'. And it had a default > timeout of 5 minutes to allow Yeah back 15 or more years ago... That 5 mins is the delay before starting the shutdown. What POC want to avoid is the slow progress of shutdown onc

Re: Strange laptop behavior #2

2024-08-25 Thread Garry T. Williams
On Friday, August 23, 2024 5:53:53 PM EDT Paolo Galtieri wrote: > I previously sent a message regarding my laptop powering off > unexpectedly. Here is an update. Power came back on, but I cannot > login to my laptop. When I try to login to the mate gui it replies > with power failure and aut

Re: Reboot timeout

2024-08-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-08-25 at 16:48 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2024-08-25 at 11:14 -0400, Fulko Hew wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 25, 2024 at 11:08 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > > > > wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 2024-08-25 at 10:48 -0400, Fulko Hew wrote: > > > > > Same here. However these are reasonab

Re: Reboot timeout

2024-08-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-08-25 at 11:14 -0400, Fulko Hew wrote: > On Sun, Aug 25, 2024 at 11:08 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > > wrote: > > > On Sun, 2024-08-25 at 10:48 -0400, Fulko Hew wrote: > > > > Same here. However these are reasonable measures on a multi- > > > > user > > > > system. On a single-user deskto

Re: Reboot timeout

2024-08-25 Thread Fulko Hew
On Sun, Aug 25, 2024 at 11:08 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2024-08-25 at 10:48 -0400, Fulko Hew wrote: > > > Same here. However these are reasonable measures on a multi-user > > > system. On a single-user desktop they just get in the way, > > > especially with journal-based filesystems

Re: Reboot timeout

2024-08-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-08-25 at 10:48 -0400, Fulko Hew wrote: > > Same here. However these are reasonable measures on a multi-user > > system. On a single-user desktop they just get in the way, > > especially with journal-based filesystems. > > > > Then you can simply use 'shutdown now'. I don't want to s

Re: Reboot timeout

2024-08-25 Thread Fulko Hew
On Sun, Aug 25, 2024 at 10:40 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2024-08-25 at 10:17 -0400, Fulko Hew wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 1:36 AM Tim via users > > > > wrote: > > > > > Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > > > > I find it highly improbable that there is a "delay reboot for X > > > > >

Re: Reboot timeout

2024-08-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-08-25 at 10:17 -0400, Fulko Hew wrote: > On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 1:36 AM Tim via users > > wrote: > > > Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > > > I find it highly improbable that there is a "delay reboot for X > > > > minutes for no reason whatsoever" setting somewhere, that > > > > simply > >

Re: Reboot timeout

2024-08-25 Thread Fulko Hew
On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 1:36 AM Tim via users wrote: > Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > > I find it highly improbable that there is a "delay reboot for X > > > minutes for no reason whatsoever" setting somewhere, that simply > > > needs to be changed. As Mr. Spock would say: "this is not logical". > >

Re: Fedora 40: the last three kernels fail

2024-08-25 Thread Walter H. via users
On 25.08.2024 09:53, Barry wrote: On 25 Aug 2024, at 08:50, Walter H. via users wrote: I have not used vmware for a long time, but when I did it was sometimes necessary to wait for vmware to fix something before a new kernel would work. I have nothing installed from vmware, the vmware tool

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-08-25 at 11:13 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > Doug Herr: > > > I also enabled the "Magic" check box for the Network Manager > > > config > > > for my Ethernet port. > > Patrick O'Callaghan: > > Not sure what that is. I don't see any such box. > > > In the Network Manager open up the

Re: Waking from suspend - SOLVED

2024-08-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2024-08-24 at 12:17 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Having failed to get hibernation working (see recent posts about > Secure > Boot getting in the way), I tried to fall back to suspending the > system > overnight. That works of course. > > What doesn't work is waking it up automatical

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-08-25 at 08:51 +0100, Barry wrote: > > > > On 24 Aug 2024, at 12:18, Patrick O'Callaghan > > wrote: > > > > If the RTC can wake > > the system from hibernation, why can't it wake it from suspension? > > The RTC wake powers on the system. But a suspended system is > already powered

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2024-08-24 at 20:22 -0700, Doug Herr wrote: > On Sat, Aug 24, 2024, at 2:23 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I use UEFI mode and don't want to change it. I'm pretty sure the > > UEFI > > settings have toggles for WOL but I'll need to check. The Android > > app I > > have is called WolOn a

Re: KVM image fails to resume after f38->40 upgrade [closed]

2024-08-25 Thread fedora
On 13/7/24 3:07 pm, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: Following an upgrade of the host (38->40) I could not start the vm. The VM was running f40 for a while just fine. It was "virsh save"d a few days ago. $ sudo virsh save e4 /data1/VMs/libvirt/images/e4.saved Normally I actually stop it but forgot

Re: Fedora 40: the last three kernels fail

2024-08-25 Thread Barry
> On 25 Aug 2024, at 08:50, Walter H. via users > wrote: > >> I have not used vmware for a long time, but when I did it was >> sometimes necessary to wait for vmware to fix something before a new >> kernel would work. > > I have nothing installed from vmware, the vmware tools It’s the vmware

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-25 Thread Barry
> On 24 Aug 2024, at 12:18, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > If the RTC can wake > the system from hibernation, why can't it wake it from suspension? The RTC wake powers on the system. But a suspended system is already powered up and kernel is in charge. You need to use a systemd timer to sched

Re: Fedora 40: the last three kernels fail

2024-08-25 Thread Walter H. via users
On 25.08.2024 09:37, Barry wrote: On 24 Aug 2024, at 14:47, Walter H. via users wrote: it is a VMware Guest I have not used vmware for a long time, but when I did it was sometimes necessary to wait for vmware to fix something before a new kernel would work. I have nothing installed from v

Re: Fedora 40: the last three kernels fail

2024-08-25 Thread Barry
> On 24 Aug 2024, at 14:47, Walter H. via users > wrote: > > it is a VMware Guest I have not used vmware for a long time, but when I did it was sometimes necessary to wait for vmware to fix something before a new kernel would work. Suspect you need to install a 6.9 kernel and test that. Bar