from my exprience, fedora xfce spin is a good choice for old hardware, and
I'm using fedora+xfce for desktop 10yrs+.
I
Mike Wright 于2024年4月18日周四 10:07写道:
> On 4/17/24 17:37, Mike Wright wrote:
>
> > From what I read X11 suffered from mission creep and a lot of features
> > that should have been
On 4/17/24 17:37, Mike Wright wrote:
From what I read X11 suffered from mission creep and a lot of features
that should have been in the
windowmanagers
ended up in X11 and will never
be in Wayland.
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Jeffrey Walton writes:
Wayland is still pretty immature when compared to X11. It would be nice if
Wayland was more mature before we are forced to switch to it.
The question on everyone's mind is: well, here's a video card that works
fine with X. It's 5-10 years old, one of mine is even old
On 4/17/24 12:30, Go Canes wrote:
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 1:48 PM John Mellor wrote:
With X being a completely unmaintainable mess, all new and bugfix
development stopped about 2 years ago. Most disturbing is that for the
last 2 years there have been essentially no security fixes as a result.
On 04/17/2024 05:09 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
There are:
https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/wayland_roadmap
basically, the plan is to have prelim support in the next release (4.20)
and refine/improve it after that.
Excellent! Thanx for bringing that to my attention.
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On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 19:36:45 -0400
Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> Wayland is still pretty immature when compared to X11. It would be nice if
> Wayland was more mature before we are forced to switch to it.
That seems to be the standard linux "improvement" path. Get rid of something
everyone uses, replace
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 2:14 PM Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:56:44 -0600
> Joe Zeff wrote:
>
> > And so will I along with everybody using Xfce as I don't know if there
> > are even any plans yet to make it Wayland compatible.
>
> Has Wayland (or the compositor, or whatever they ima
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 03:30:32PM GMT, Go Canes wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 1:48 PM John Mellor wrote:
> >
> > With X being a completely unmaintainable mess, all new and bugfix
> > development stopped about 2 years ago. Most disturbing is that for the
> > last 2 years there have been essent
On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 07:27:21AM GMT, Tim via users wrote:
> On Wed, 2024-04-17 at 13:47 -0400, John Mellor wrote:
> > However, given that absolutely everyone today has compute power
> > on their desk and everyone has a gpu for things like compositing instead
> > of what was available back when
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 11:56:44AM GMT, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 04/17/2024 11:08 AM, t_...@tiscali.it wrote:
> > I'm on fedora since years.
> > If they'll completely drop X11, I need to change distro.
> > Any suggestion on which distro is good for continuing to
> > use the "VERY OLD" X11/Mwm ?
> > Tha
On Wed, 2024-04-17 at 13:47 -0400, John Mellor wrote:
> However, given that absolutely everyone today has compute power
> on their desk and everyone has a gpu for things like compositing instead
> of what was available back when X was designed
Bullshit!
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On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 1:48 PM John Mellor wrote:
>
> With X being a completely unmaintainable mess, all new and bugfix
> development stopped about 2 years ago. Most disturbing is that for the
> last 2 years there have been essentially no security fixes as a result.
I have heard that there have
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 12:42 PM Klaus-Peter Schrage via users
wrote:
> I faintly remembered the dracut thing, so I tried that first - but it
> didn't help.
If the other problems aren't resolved, rebuilding initramfs probably won't help.
> I will look into the UUID stuff tomorrow, although I had
On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:56:44 -0600
Joe Zeff wrote:
> And so will I along with everybody using Xfce as I don't know if there
> are even any plans yet to make it Wayland compatible.
Has Wayland (or the compositor, or whatever they imagine is responsible)
got the ability yet to remap keyboard keys,
On 04/17/2024 11:08 AM, t_...@tiscali.it wrote:
I'm on fedora since years.
If they'll completely drop X11, I need to change distro.
Any suggestion on which distro is good for continuing to
use the "VERY OLD" X11/Mwm ?
Thanks
And so will I along with everybody using Xfce as I don't know if there
With X being a completely unmaintainable mess, all new and bugfix
development stopped about 2 years ago. Most disturbing is that for the
last 2 years there have been essentially no security fixes as a result.
A couple of distros have done some critical bugfixes to try to keep the
dead horse a
On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 14:00:00 +0200
Dario Lesca wrote:
> Ok my notebook I work with Fedora from Core 1 with Gnome on Xorg-x11
>
> I would like to continue to work with Gnome on Xorg-x11 ... even after
> version 40
>
> What is the best way to do that without change distro?
>
> Many thanks
>
I'
Klaus-Peter Schrage via users composed on 2024-04-17 16:48 (UTC+0200):
> After many years of maintaing dual boot setups (Fedora/Windows) my
> harddisk layout got a bit confusing: Linux and Windows partition were
> scattered on mainly two harddisks (all gpt). I was able to free a third
> harddisk (
Thanks for your quick reply!
I faintly remembered the dracut thing, so I tried that first - but it
didn't help.
I will look into the UUID stuff tomorrow, although I had already checked
that gparted really did not change UUIDs when moving partitions around.
And as I said, I can get into Fedora a
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 11:38 AM Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:
> As I understand it, X11 will still be installable, though I don't know
> how long that will last.
I think the only long-term hope for those of us that require
capabilities that X11 provides (and Wayland does not) is that either
Red Hat
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 10:48 AM Klaus-Peter Schrage via users
wrote:
> But rebooting still gets me to the dreaded grub>.
> So what am I missing?
> BTW, I did NOT use the grub2-install command which shoud not be used on
> UEFI systems.
I recently had similar problems. These are the things to che
On Wed, 2024-04-17 at 14:00 +0200, Dario Lesca wrote:
> Ok my notebook I work with Fedora from Core 1 with Gnome on Xorg-x11
>
> I would like to continue to work with Gnome on Xorg-x11 ... even
> after
> version 40
>
> What is the best way to do that without change distro?
As I understand it, X1
After many years of maintaing dual boot setups (Fedora/Windows) my
harddisk layout got a bit confusing: Linux and Windows partition were
scattered on mainly two harddisks (all gpt). I was able to free a third
harddisk (ssd) and copied the linux partitions boot, root and home over
to the new disk,
On Apr 16, 2024, at 15:22, Don Marti wrote:
>
> I have some old shell functions that use xte to fake some keyboard input.
> For example, this is a function to run its argument(s) in a new
> gnome-terminal tab.
>
> run_in_tab ()
> {
>xte 'keydown Control_L' 'keydown Shift_L' 'key t' 'keyu
Ok my notebook I work with Fedora from Core 1 with Gnome on Xorg-x11
I would like to continue to work with Gnome on Xorg-x11 ... even after
version 40
What is the best way to do that without change distro?
Many thanks
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(Inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 39 Workstation)
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