Re: Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-22 Thread Ed Greshko
And you may also want to run nmap, as root, from your fedora system nmap -sS -6 The-IPV6-address-here and just to be sure of IPv4 nmap -sS The-IPV4-address-here FWIW, [root@meimei ~]#  nmap -sS -6 -p 2049 2001:b030:112f:2::53 Starting Nmap 7.80 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2021-06-23 14:51 C

Re: packagekitd Hogging CPU

2021-06-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 6/22/21 9:59 PM, Tim via users wrote: One of my peeves about Ubuntu (years ago, but may still apply), was that their forums were full of Windows escapees, still carrying on in the same way. Not knowing what they were doing, yet giving (bad) cargo cult advice, and carrying on in a Windows mann

Re: Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 6/22/21 8:55 PM, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On 6/21/21 11:41 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 6/21/21 6:17 AM, Robert McBroom via users wrote: @RobertPC ~]# mount -v -t nfs [fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1]:/mnt/HD/HD_a2/mcstuffy /mnt/mcstuffy mount.nfs: timeout set for Mon Jun 21 06:42:25 2021 mount.

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 4:05 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > One other data point and I'll leave it unless anything else turns up: I > switched the two drives in the dock and got this from dmesg: > > [Tue Jun 22 10:52:03 2021] usb 4-3: USB disconnect, device number 2 > [Tue Jun 22 10:52:03 2021]

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 4:10 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > There is a single dock with two slots and no other type of enclosure. > The disks are internal SATA units inserted directly into the slots. The > dock has a single dedicated USB-3 connection direct to the system > motherboard with no in

Re: packagekitd Hogging CPU

2021-06-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 11:24 AM Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote: > I don't know a lot about Packagekit, or anything else really. > But I will take this chance to complain again. When rebooting or shutting > down my laptop, many times the process is delayed (up to 1.5 minutes) and it > displays its

Re: Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 23/06/2021 11:55, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On 6/21/21 11:41 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 6/21/21 6:17 AM, Robert McBroom via users wrote: @RobertPC ~]# mount -v -t nfs [fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1]:/mnt/HD/HD_a2/mcstuffy /mnt/mcstuffy mount.nfs: timeout set for Mon Jun 21 06:42:25 2021 mount

Re: packagekitd Hogging CPU

2021-06-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 10:58 AM Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 6/22/21 10:29 AM, George N. White III wrote: > > The Gnome software manager has the added advantages > > that it a) forces a reboot and b) offers flatpak versions of major > > applications. > > The forced reboot is only an advantage if some o

Re: packagekitd Hogging CPU

2021-06-22 Thread Tim via users
George N. White III: > The forums for some of the mission critical applications have seen > cases where users were told to install an updated distro package. > User then reports that the update had no effect (because the old > library is still being used) and proceeds to run wild reinstalling > th

Re: Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-22 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 6/21/21 11:41 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 6/21/21 6:17 AM, Robert McBroom via users wrote: @RobertPC ~]# mount -v -t nfs [fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1]:/mnt/HD/HD_a2/mcstuffy /mnt/mcstuffy mount.nfs: timeout set for Mon Jun 21 06:42:25 2021 mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'vers=4.2,addr=fd2e:c

Re: packagekitd Hogging CPU

2021-06-22 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2021-06-22 at 12:24 -0500, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote: > I don't know a lot about Packagekit, or anything else really. > But I will take this chance to complain again. When rebooting or > shutting down my laptop, many times the process is delayed (up to 1.5 > minutes) and it displays its w

Re: packagekitd Hogging CPU

2021-06-22 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Long ago I gave up helping such users by no- >> longer continually fixing their broken Windows... Joe Zeff: > "Sorry, I don't do Windows." Exactly! I still get asked if I can recommend anti-virus software, and I reply that I haven't touched Windows in years, I don't need it on my comput

Re: pjsua and audio

2021-06-22 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2021-06-22 9:46 a.m., Wade Hampton wrote: I am on Fedora 33 and am trying to get pjsua working with my Asterisk server. Each time I try to make a call, I get an error about the audio device. Is it trying to use pulseaudio or alsa by default?  I saw one other post with the same error from Fe

Re: packagekitd Hogging CPU

2021-06-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 14:29:33 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: > And that's why I suggest some form of Ubuntu to people like that. I use ubuntu on the little computer I have running my 3D printer so I can run the LTS release and not worry about upgrading every 6 months. I just had a problem with the latest k

Re: Questions about Fedora andsounds

2021-06-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 6/22/21 2:04 PM, Cisco Tissera wrote: The questions, in more detail, are these: is there a way on Fedora 34 to play a sound of my choosing at startup or log in? If yes, how? You can use aplay even when nobody is logged in. Supported formats are voc, wav, raw or au, with wav as the default

Re: packagekitd Hogging CPU

2021-06-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 6/22/21 12:57 PM, George N. White III wrote: As long as the Gnome software manager doesn't get in the way of doing updates with DNF, you should be able to leave it to the users who insist on doing everything with GUI's. *Shrug!* If they really want to do everything through a point and droo

Re: packagekitd Hogging CPU

2021-06-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 6/22/21 11:02 AM, Tim via users wrote: Long ago I gave up helping such users by no- longer continually fixing their broken Windows... "Sorry, I don't do Windows." ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Questions about Fedora andsounds

2021-06-22 Thread Cisco Tissera
Hello everyone, The questions, in more detail, are these: is there a way on Fedora 34 to play a sound of my choosing at startup or log in? If yes, how? Does anyone here use a different sound theme than the default one? Thanks for any answer. Best regards. Francisco. _

Re: packagekitd Hogging CPU

2021-06-22 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 at 14:00, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 6/22/21 10:29 AM, George N. White III wrote: > > The Gnome software manager has the added advantages > > that it a) forces a reboot and b) offers flatpak versions of major > > applications. > > The forced reboot is only an advantage if some of th

Re: packagekitd Hogging CPU

2021-06-22 Thread Anil Felipe Duggirala
On Tue, Jun 22, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Tim Evans wrote: > On 6/21/21 4:52 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > PackageKit and dnf keep separate metadata in /var/cache and they > > update periodically. PackageKit seems to do this on login, but I've > > also noticed it trigger an update when I switch networks.

Re: packagekitd Hogging CPU

2021-06-22 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2021-06-22 at 13:29 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > Many of the younger linux users I encounter came to linux from > Windows because a mission critical application requires linux. Some > have only used the command line after Google told them to run "sudo > " resulting in a badly broken

Re: packagekitd Hogging CPU

2021-06-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 6/22/21 10:29 AM, George N. White III wrote: The Gnome software manager has the added advantages that it a) forces a reboot and b) offers flatpak versions of major applications. The forced reboot is only an advantage if some of the upgrades require a reboot to get them started. Most upgra

pjsua and audio

2021-06-22 Thread Wade Hampton
I am on Fedora 33 and am trying to get pjsua working with my Asterisk server. Each time I try to make a call, I get an error about the audio device. Is it trying to use pulseaudio or alsa by default? I saw one other post with the same error from Fedora 27, with no answer... The package is: pjsu

Re: packagekitd Hogging CPU

2021-06-22 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 at 12:25, Tim Evans wrote: > On 6/21/21 4:52 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > PackageKit and dnf keep separate metadata in /var/cache and they > > update periodically. PackageKit seems to do this on login, but I've > > also noticed it trigger an update when I switch networks. And

Re: packagekitd Hogging CPU

2021-06-22 Thread Tim Evans
On 6/21/21 4:52 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: PackageKit and dnf keep separate metadata in /var/cache and they update periodically. PackageKit seems to do this on login, but I've also noticed it trigger an update when I switch networks. And dnf is on a timer. Either of them can use a lot of cpu, it ju

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2021-06-22 at 18:17 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 22/06/2021 18:04, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Well, I'm grateful to everyone who's chipped in, especially you and > > Chris, but don't feel in any way obliged. > > That's good.  As well you shouldn't.  I only just thought about that > in

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 22/06/2021 18:04, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Well, I'm grateful to everyone who's chipped in, especially you and Chris, but don't feel in any way obliged. That's good.  As well you shouldn't.  I only just thought about that in connection with the time I spent on my NFS mounts happening at b

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 22/06/2021 18:09, George N. White III wrote: On Mon, 21 Jun 2021 at 21:45, Ed Greshko mailto:ed.gres...@greshko.com>> wrote: I do wonder how many brain-seconds have collectively been used in search of a solution.  :-) :-) A lot more than goes into the design of cheap docks sold on Ama

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-22 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, 21 Jun 2021 at 21:45, Ed Greshko wrote: > > I do wonder how many brain-seconds have collectively been used in search > of a solution. :-) :-) > A lot more than goes into the design of cheap docks sold on Amazon, but the search has educational value. -- George N. White III

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2021-06-22 at 08:42 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 22/06/2021 05:41, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 21:18 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > On 21/06/2021 20:31, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 20:02 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > > > > > I thought

Re: No Swap Allocation in FSTAB

2021-06-22 Thread Stephen Morris
On 22/6/21 11:06, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-21 4:29 p.m., Stephen Morris wrote: On 20/6/21 02:22, Ed Greshko wrote: On 19/06/2021 21:44, Stephen Morris wrote: My system has been upgraded from versions without ZRAM.  That is the reason my system has a defined swap partition on disk. I don