Re: FC34 broke my bind

2021-06-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 6/12/21 11:09 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Sat, 2021-06-12 at 22:50 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: So why am I getting "file not found" in the following? If your files are at the expected paths, check SELinux. It's a common cause of unexpected and unexplained "file not found" errors.

Re: FC34 broke my bind

2021-06-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Oh poop! Figured it out! # systemctl status named-chroot.service ● named-chroot.service - Berkeley Internet Name Domain (DNS) Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/named-chroot.service; enabled; vendor preset: disabled) Active: active (running) since Sat 2021-06-12 14:49:05 PDT; 8h

Re: FC34 broke my bind

2021-06-12 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2021-06-12 at 22:50 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > So why am I getting "file not found" in the following? If your files are at the expected paths, check SELinux. It's a common cause of unexpected and unexplained "file not found" errors. -- uname -rsvp Linux 5.11.21-100.fc32.x

Re: FC34 broke my bind

2021-06-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 6/12/21 4:39 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Just upgraded from FC33 to FC34. # rpm -aq bind\* bind-export-libs-9.11.11-1.fc30.x86_64 bind-license-9.16.16-1.fc34.noarch bind-dnssec-doc-9.16.16-1.fc34.noarch bind-libs-9.16.16-1.fc34.x86_64 bind-utils-9.16.16-1.fc34.x86_64 bind-dnss

How to move panel/menu to bottom on gnome4?

2021-06-12 Thread Alex
Hi, I just upgraded to f34 and now my menus are against the top of the screen and the apps are along the bottom. How do I move them all to the bottom? I've updated all the extensions that I could at extensions.gnome.org, but I don't recall which extensions perform which functions, and it appears

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 13/06/2021 08:41, Samuel Sieb wrote: So that gave me the clue that led to the real problem.  The service is included in the initrd and masking it on the system doesn't change that.  Even re-creating the initrd with dracut after masking didn't change anything. And also the nm-initrd.service

Re: FC34 broke my bind

2021-06-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 6/12/21 5:13 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: Hi, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Just upgraded from FC33 to FC34. FC34 broke my bind. Here are "some" of the repeating errors: Bind was updated from 9.11 to 9.16 in Fedora 34: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BIND9.16 You'll ne

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2021-06-12 4:59 p.m., Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/06/2021 07:36, Samuel Sieb wrote: Yes, but I would think there is still a period of time associated with calling the service, discovering the link to /dev/null and then understanding the service has completed. It isn't as if the service file n

Re: FC34 broke my bind

2021-06-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 6/12/21 5:26 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 16:39:45 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Please note this all worked perfectly under FC33 Named completely ceased working for me under f34 as well (I just run a server for my local LAN). Apparently some setting in the new config f

Re: FC34 broke my bind

2021-06-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 16:39:45 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Please note this all worked perfectly under FC33 Named completely ceased working for me under f34 as well (I just run a server for my local LAN). Apparently some setting in the new config files screwed something up. Rather than t

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Joe Zeff
On 6/12/21 5:14 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Since it is being "pulled in" by other services I think you may expect to see this. That would be true if it were only disabled. Once it's masked it can't be started by systemd until it's been unmasked. ___ u

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Joe Zeff
On 6/12/21 4:46 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I've masked it and rebooted. Makes no difference to boot time in my case. Have you checked with systend-analyze blame again to see what else might be delaying your boot? ___ users mailing list -- users@

Re: FC34 broke my bind

2021-06-12 Thread Todd Zullinger
Hi, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > Just upgraded from FC33 to FC34. > > FC34 broke my bind. Here are "some" of the repeating errors: Bind was updated from 9.11 to 9.16 in Fedora 34: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BIND9.16 You'll need to review the upstream documentati

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 13/06/2021 07:36, Samuel Sieb wrote: Yes, but I would think there is still a period of time associated with calling the service, discovering the link to /dev/null and then understanding the service has completed. It isn't as if the service file no longer exits. "impossible to start them

FC34 broke my bind

2021-06-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, Just upgraded from FC33 to FC34. FC34 broke my bind. Here are "some" of the repeating errors: # named-checkzone -t /var/named/chroot/var/named/slaves xyz xyz.hosts xyz.hosts:3: ignoring out-of-zone data (xyz.local) xyz.hosts:15: ignoring out-of-zone data (DeadStick.xyz.local) 1

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 6/12/21 4:29 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/06/2021 07:22, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-12 4:14 p.m., Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/06/2021 07:06, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-12 3:46 p.m., Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2021-06-12 at 14:43 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-12 10:19 a.m.,

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 13/06/2021 07:22, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-12 4:14 p.m., Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/06/2021 07:06, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-12 3:46 p.m., Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2021-06-12 at 14:43 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-12 10:19 a.m., Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 12 Jun 202

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2021-06-12 4:14 p.m., Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/06/2021 07:06, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-12 3:46 p.m., Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2021-06-12 at 14:43 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-12 10:19 a.m., Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:44:19 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: Accord

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 13/06/2021 07:06, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-12 3:46 p.m., Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2021-06-12 at 14:43 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-12 10:19 a.m., Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:44:19 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: According to https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 13/06/2021 06:57, Ed Greshko wrote: But, does your plot show a difference? Speaking of your plot. Don't you think the time between sys-devices-pci:00-:00:1a.0-usb1-1\x2d1-1\x2d1.6-1\x2d1.6.2.device and dev-disk-by\x2dpath-pci\x2d:00:14.0\x2dusb\x2d0:3:1.0\x2dscsi\x2d0:0:0:1

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2021-06-12 3:46 p.m., Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2021-06-12 at 14:43 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-12 10:19 a.m., Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:44:19 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: According to https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/10891 has been depricated since last yea

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 13/06/2021 06:46, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2021-06-12 at 14:43 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-12 10:19 a.m., Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:44:19 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: According to https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/10891 has been depricated since last year. 

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2021-06-12 at 14:43 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 2021-06-12 10:19 a.m., Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:44:19 -0600 > > Joe Zeff wrote: > > > > > According to https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/10891 has been > > > depricated since last year.  Disable and mask it and tha

Re: upgrate fedora34 from fedora32

2021-06-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2021-06-12 2:15 p.m., Patrick Dupre wrote: dnf system-upgrade download --refresh --releasever=34 provides all these errors, How can I avoid to demove all these packages? Error: Problem 1: package perl-Geometry-Primitive-0.24-1.fc32.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.30.2), but none o

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2021-06-12 10:19 a.m., Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:44:19 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: According to https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/10891 has been depricated since last year. Disable and mask it and that should fix your issue. It is listed as a "static" service on my system. C

upgrate fedora34 from fedora32

2021-06-12 Thread Patrick Dupre
dnf system-upgrade download --refresh --releasever=34 provides all these errors, How can I avoid to demove all these packages? Error: Problem 1: package perl-Geometry-Primitive-0.24-1.fc32.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.30.2), but none of the providers can be installed - perl-libs-4

Re: IP-routing fails after upgrade F33->F34

2021-06-12 Thread Tim Evans
On 5/29/21 12:54 PM, Tim Evans wrote: On 5/4/21 8:33 AM, Jouk Jansen wrote: Hi All, I'm using one of my Fedora machines as a router between 2 networks. The two network devices on the machine are called enp0s25 and tun0. On F33 it worked as expected. However, after an upgrade to F34 It looks l

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Joe Zeff
On 6/12/21 11:54 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Not my case. I don't have systemd-udev-settle.service. This is a fresh install of F34. Ok, you can still use systemd-analyze blame to find out what's causing the delay. ___ users mailing list -- users@

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2021-06-12 at 18:54 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2021-06-12 at 11:31 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > > I found and fixed the problem. The key was in my systemd log. > > > >   1.825245] udevadm[363]: systemd-udev-settle.service is deprecated. > > Please fix nm-initrd.service

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2021-06-12 at 11:31 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > I found and fixed the problem. The key was in my systemd log. > >   1.825245] udevadm[363]: systemd-udev-settle.service is deprecated. > Please fix nm-initrd.service not to pull it in > > > Personally I think this should be spread more

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2021-06-12 at 07:25 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > Both problems need logs. It's quite a bit over kill but these boot > parameters will help provide enough info. > > systemd.log_level=debug udev.log-priority=​debug > rd.debug x-systemd.timeout=180 > > The debug options are resource inventiv

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:44:19 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: > According to https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/10891 has been > depricated since last year. Disable and mask it and that should fix > your issue. It is listed as a "static" service on my system. Can those be disabled or masked? _

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Joe Zeff
On 6/12/21 6:32 AM, Frank McCormick wrote: Systemd-analyze blame pinpoints "systemd-udev-settle.service" more than a 2 minute wait!! According to https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/10891 has been depricated since last year. Disable and mask it and that should fix your issue.

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Greg Woods
On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 9:32 AM Frank McCormick wrote: > I found and fixed the problem. The key was in my systemd log. > > 1.825245] udevadm[363]: systemd-udev-settle.service is deprecated. > Please fix nm-initrd.service not to pull it in > Interesting; on my F34 system, the message mentions n

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Frank McCormick
I found and fixed the problem. The key was in my systemd log. 1.825245] udevadm[363]: systemd-udev-settle.service is deprecated. Please fix nm-initrd.service not to pull it in Personally I think this should be spread more...it seems there are quite a few with this problem ___

Re: Xorg Scaling Issues (Solved)

2021-06-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/06/2021 21:45, Stephen Morris wrote: The problem I have is Gnome scales when the windows size changes, but KDE does not, which is why I put the modelines in the conf file, and then KDE does scale. I think it is going to be "difficult" to track down the actual culprit.  I say that becaus

Re: Xorg Scaling Issues (Solved)

2021-06-12 Thread Stephen Morris
On 12/6/21 14:29, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-11 6:46 p.m., Stephen Morris wrote: Below are the modelines that I had to add into the config over and above what xrandr provided as the supported resolutions, coincidentally the supported resolutions that xrandr displayed also happened to match

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Chris Murphy
Both problems need logs. It's quite a bit over kill but these boot parameters will help provide enough info. systemd.log_level=debug udev.log-priority=​debug rd.debug x-systemd.timeout=180 The debug options are resource inventive and slow down boot by allot. The point of the timeout is hopefully

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Frank McCormick
Systemd-analyze blame pinpoints "systemd-udev-settle.service" more than a 2 minute wait!! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2021-06-11 at 20:26 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 6/11/21 8:16 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: > > > > The boot is interrupted for a longtime (2 minutes) while > > a start job runs for wait for udev to complete initialization. > > > > The timeout is three minutes and it almost reaches that point