Re: X Org Server is abandonware

2020-10-26 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2020-10-26 at 08:46 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > One of the motivations for Wayland was that the X.Org was becoming > unmaintainable and suffered from design choices that are no longer > relevant. Is it really unmaintainable, or is it that programmers just cannot be arsed to learn h

Re: systemd-resolved switching DNS servers

2020-10-26 Thread Tom Seewald
> So, outside of classic Unix/Linux /etc/resolv.conf... most software does > not treat a list of multiple DNS servers as explicitly "primary" and > "secondary" (and so on). Both network manager and systemd-resolved ostensibly support ordering of DNS servers. I'm not sure why you have decided to

Re: systemd-resolved switching DNS servers

2020-10-26 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Tom Seewald said: > Yeah I'm not very happy that systemd-resolved seemingly does this silently > and that I have to just restart the service for it to try again. My server is > just a consumer router running OpenWRT which uses Dnsmasq. So, outside of classic Unix/Linux /etc/re

Re: systemd-resolved switching DNS servers

2020-10-26 Thread Tom Seewald
I could just disable it, but given that systemd-resolved is now a default of Fedora I thought I'd bring this up as this is having a negative impact on my experience with Fedora 33. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe s

Re: X Org Server is abandonware

2020-10-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik
George N. White III writes: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=XServer- Abandonware>It's Time To Admit It: The X.Org Server Is Abandonware - Phoronix I'm subscribed to the x.org mailing list. It's getting a steady trickle of mailing list traffic, and, from the looks of it, p

Re: systemd-resolved switching DNS servers

2020-10-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 20:30:31 - Tom Seewald wrote: > Yeah I'm not very happy that systemd-resolved seemingly does this silently > and that I have to just restart the service for it to try again. You could just disable that service, then systemd wouldn't try to cache dns. There are about a doz

Re: systemd-resolved switching DNS servers

2020-10-26 Thread Tom Seewald
Yeah I'm not very happy that systemd-resolved seemingly does this silently and that I have to just restart the service for it to try again. My server is just a consumer router running OpenWRT which uses Dnsmasq. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fed

Re: X Org Server is abandonware

2020-10-26 Thread stan via users
On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 08:46:00 -0300 "George N. White III" wrote: > One of the motivations for Wayland was that the X.Org was becoming > unmaintainable and suffered from design choices that are no longer > relevant. What this means is that there were 30+ years of corner cases handled in the code.

Re: An "arp ... pub" replacement?

2020-10-26 Thread ITwrx
On 10/26/20 12:02 PM, Steve Hill wrote: > However, I'm finding that for managed routers, ISPs are increasingly > unwilling to set up custom routing. but can they not put the router into bridge mode and let your fw handle it from there? ___ users mailing

Re: X Org Server is abandonware

2020-10-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/26/20 10:10 AM, Matti Pulkkinen wrote: But there's a chance that, over time, the ecosystem will change around Xorg, and gradually fewer and fewer things will work on Xorg, while more and more things will require the use of Wayland. And that's not even to mention that it seems unlikely for

An "arp ... pub" replacement?

2020-10-26 Thread Steve Hill
I'm looking for advice on best practice for setting up a Fedora / CentOS firewall in the following situation: LAN (10.0.0.0/24) | | | (10.0.0.1) Firewall | (198.51.100.2/27) | | (198.51.100.1/27) ISP's Router | | | Internet

Re: Add repo?

2020-10-26 Thread Beartooth
On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 13:47:41 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 17:40:08 - (UTC) > Beartooth wrote: > >> I've just discovered that dnf on one of my machines (a Thinkpad, >> but I've forgotten where it keeps its model number) is lacking >> rpmfusion; >> and I can't seem to fi

Re: X Org Server is abandonware

2020-10-26 Thread Matti Pulkkinen
Matti Pulkkinen kirjoitti 26.10.2020 klo 18.10: But there's a chance that, over time, the ecosystem will change around Xorg, and gradually fewer and fewer things will work on Xorg, while more and more things will require the use of Wayland. And that's not even to mention that it seems unlikely

Re: X Org Server is abandonware

2020-10-26 Thread Matti Pulkkinen
Tom Horsley kirjoitti 26.10.2020 klo 16.03: On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 15:42:09 +0200 Matti Pulkkinen wrote: Sad if true. Nah, look at it this way: If it is abandoned, it won't be getting scads of gratuitous changes for no reason like everything else in linux gets all the time :-). But there's a c

firewalld

2020-10-26 Thread Michael J. Baars
Hi, I'm writing a client and server program for cluster computation. I noticed that nmap sees a specific port as open on Fedora Server and as filtered on Fedora Workstation when the server is running and sees this port as closed on Fedora Server and as filtered on Fedora Workstation when the ser

Re: X Org Server is abandonware

2020-10-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 15:42:09 +0200 Matti Pulkkinen wrote: > Sad if true. Nah, look at it this way: If it is abandoned, it won't be getting scads of gratuitous changes for no reason like everything else in linux gets all the time :-). The last time I checked, I couldn't do things like map buttons

Re: X Org Server is abandonware

2020-10-26 Thread Matti Pulkkinen
George N. White III kirjoitti 26.10.2020 klo 13.46: It's Time To Admit It: The X.Org Server Is Abandonware - Phoronix ... > Wayland has been around for a while and still many drivers (Wacom professional drawing tablets) re

X Org Server is abandonware

2020-10-26 Thread George N. White III
It's Time To Admit It: The X.Org Server Is Abandonware - Phoronix "The last major release of the X.Org Server was in May 2018 but don't expect the long-awaited X.Org Server 1.21

Re: systemd-resolved switching DNS servers

2020-10-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 26/10/2020 18:09, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: At the risk of beating a dead horse, I'll be "that guy" again and point out that F33 is as yet unreleased and any issues should be sent to the Fedora Test list until it is released. Well, since F33 is a GO for release on Tuesday the 27th, I think

boxes keyboard locking to VM

2020-10-26 Thread Frederic Muller
Hi! Virtualbox doesn't seem to run anymore (or not without spending too much time troubleshooting). I've started a VM in GNOME Boxes but selected not to get the keyboard/mouse locked at one point. Now using the VM with the mouse is hell as the mouse seems to leave the screen before it reaches

Re: systemd-resolved switching DNS servers

2020-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2020-10-26 at 02:30 +, Tom Seewald wrote: > After upgrading to F33 I've noticed that sometimes my current DNS server > switches to 1.1.1.1 instead of my local DNS (192.168.1.1). This has happened > both immediately after system boot, and once after several hours of use. For > my conn

Re: Strange gpg-agent processes with Fedora 32

2020-10-26 Thread Richard Hughes
On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 at 14:24, Jonathan Billings wrote: > I'm running f33beta, bu I have also seen these, they're owned by the > packagekit systemd service (confirm by running 'cat /proc/2512/cgroup' > in your example). PackageKit doesn't use gpg itself, but it's highly likely libdnf is doing some

Re: systemd-resolved switching DNS servers

2020-10-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 26/10/2020 10:30, Tom Seewald wrote: After upgrading to F33 I've noticed that sometimes my current DNS server switches to 1.1.1.1 instead of my local DNS (192.168.1.1). This has happened both immediately after system boot, and once after several hours of use. For my connection in Network Man