Re: how can I use a live usb to update ?

2019-11-23 Thread Francis . Montagnac
Hi. I haven't read all this thread. Just a remark about grub. See below. On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 21:37:42 -0700 stan via users wrote: ... ran grub2-mkconfig. No entries again in output. It can't find the f29 and f30 in /boot. ... >> The problem is that installing or reinstalling an f30 k

Re: system clock out of sync after a reboot

2019-11-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2019-11-24 12:22, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Louis Lagendijk writes: > >> On Sat, 2019-11-23 at 10:09 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> >> > So, hwclock must be getting synced. But I don't see where hwclock >> > would be >> > getting called from. grepping /lib/systemd/system finds nothing. >> > hwc

Re: system clock out of sync after a reboot

2019-11-23 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2019-11-23 at 08:59 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I have chrony running and pointing to my ISP's time server, not the > Fedora pool, so it's always the same NTP server. > > This box is up 24/7, and I just rebooted it. And I get this, after a > reboot: > > Nov 23 08:53:10 shorty chronyd[

Re: how can I use a live usb to update ?

2019-11-23 Thread stan via users
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 17:03:19 -0500 sean darcy wrote: > On 11/23/19 10:36 AM, stan via users wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 17:15:58 -0500 > > sean darcy wrote: > > > >> So I chroot'd into the old installation. BIOs boot, not EFI. No > >> entries at all in grub.cfg. > > > > Are you trying t

Re: system clock out of sync after a reboot

2019-11-23 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Louis Lagendijk writes: On Sat, 2019-11-23 at 10:09 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > So, hwclock must be getting synced. But I don't see where hwclock > would be > getting called from. grepping /lib/systemd/system finds nothing. > hwclock > itself comes from util-linux, which doesn't install any

Re: system clock out of sync after a reboot

2019-11-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2019-11-23 21:59, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Anyone know where to investigate this further? Suggest you keep an eye on the drift by doing something like date +%Y-%m-%d\ %H:%M:%S.%N > tdiff ; hwclock -r >> tdiff on a periodic basis. I would think it would be a good idea to do it just before a

Re: Keyboard Shortcuts

2019-11-23 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 at 17:19, Simon Colston wrote: > > > On 23/11/2019 19:15, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 11/22/19 12:25 AM, Simon Colston wrote: > >> So my question is, how can I disable these unwanted keyboard shortcuts? > > > > I don't think you can. They appear to be hardcoded in gnome-shell o

Re: how can I use a live usb to update ?

2019-11-23 Thread sean darcy
On 11/23/19 10:36 AM, stan via users wrote: On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 17:15:58 -0500 sean darcy wrote: So I chroot'd into the old installation. BIOs boot, not EFI. No entries at all in grub.cfg. Are you trying to convert from bios/mbr boot to uefi boot on the upgrade? I think if you already have

Re: Keyboard Shortcuts

2019-11-23 Thread Simon Colston
On 23/11/2019 19:15, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/22/19 12:25 AM, Simon Colston wrote: So my question is, how can I disable these unwanted keyboard shortcuts? I don't think you can.  They appear to be hardcoded in gnome-shell or mutter.  Can you change the IME shortcut? If they are hard-coded

Re: Keyboard Shortcuts

2019-11-23 Thread Simon Colston
On 23/11/2019 15:12, stan via users wrote: On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 08:25:29 + Simon Colston wrote: Fedora Workstation 31 GNOME So my question is, how can I disable these unwanted keyboard shortcuts? From your description, it sounds like an application is grabbing these keys, and that the

Re: Prevent turning off external monitor when playing audio though HDMI

2019-11-23 Thread Robert Mihaly
On Sat, 2019-11-23 at 12:39 -0700, stan via users wrote: > No, I meant the setting in the screensaver itself. It separates > into > three timers under 'Display Power Management': > Standby after xxx minutes > Suspend after xxx minutes > Off after xxx minutes > > But, I see now that it is Xsc

Re: Prevent turning off external monitor when playing audio though HDMI

2019-11-23 Thread stan via users
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 16:40:48 +0100 Robert Mihaly wrote: > I think you mean this setting: > > $ gsettings describe org.gnome.desktop.session idle-delay > The number of seconds of inactivity before the session is considered > idle. > > Yeah, I guess I could use that to disable the screen saver, b

Re: Keyboard Shortcuts

2019-11-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/22/19 12:25 AM, Simon Colston wrote: My installation has a default of English (UK) but occasionally I use Japanese so I installed Japanese language support. When using the Japanese IME one of the keyboard shortcuts is Alt+`.  However, when I use this it brings up an application switch scr

Re: google cloud print ending

2019-11-23 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 at 10:33, Neal Becker wrote: > So what to do now? On my android device, I installed a mopria app, and it > finds my brother laser printer just fine. But to print from my linux > desktop, I've never setup a system printer, just depended on printing to > google cloud via chrom

Re: system clock out of sync after a reboot

2019-11-23 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Sat, 2019-11-23 at 10:09 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Tom Horsley writes: > > > On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 08:59:02 -0500 > > Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > > > > Anyone know where to investigate this further? > > > > The linux app that syncs to the hardware is "hwclock" (which > > has various obscur

Re: Prevent turning off external monitor when playing audio though HDMI

2019-11-23 Thread Robert Mihaly
On Sat, 2019-11-23 at 08:00 -0700, stan via users wrote: > I notice in the screensaver preferences, the advanced tab, that a > timeout can be set for turning off the power to the device. Perhaps > you could use that? I haven't tried this, so don't know if it will > work. I think you mean this se

Re: how can I use a live usb to update ?

2019-11-23 Thread stan via users
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 17:15:58 -0500 sean darcy wrote: > So I chroot'd into the old installation. BIOs boot, not EFI. No > entries at all in grub.cfg. Are you trying to convert from bios/mbr boot to uefi boot on the upgrade? I think if you already have a bios/mbr boot system, it would be better t

Re: Prevent turning off external monitor when playing audio though HDMI

2019-11-23 Thread Robert Mihaly
On Sat, 2019-11-23 at 09:26 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: > What application are you using to play audio? I am using Spotify from Flathub, couldn't find anything in the application settings. Is there perhaps another spotify client that supports the inhibit power-management functionality? Or do other mu

Re: Prevent turning off external monitor when playing audio though HDMI

2019-11-23 Thread Rex Dieter
Robert Mihaly wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have an external monitor connected via HDMI which has better sounding > speakers than the internal ones. Sometimes I leave the machine idle while > keep playing audio on it, but shortly after the lock screen kicks the > external monitor is turned off (pow

Re: Keyboard Shortcuts

2019-11-23 Thread stan via users
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 08:25:29 + Simon Colston wrote: > Fedora Workstation 31 GNOME > > My installation has a default of English (UK) but occasionally I use > Japanese so I installed Japanese language support. When using the > Japanese IME one of the keyboard shortcuts is Alt+`. However, when

Re: system clock out of sync after a reboot

2019-11-23 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tom Horsley writes: On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 08:59:02 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Anyone know where to investigate this further? The linux app that syncs to the hardware is "hwclock" (which has various obscure parameters described in the man page). You could make a script to sync with hwclock t

Re: system clock out of sync after a reboot

2019-11-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2019-11-23 22:33, Ed Greshko wrote: > Maybe add an ExecStop= Sorry, that should have been ExecStopPost= -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: Prevent turning off external monitor when playing audio though HDMI

2019-11-23 Thread stan via users
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 14:03:45 - "Robert Mihaly" wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have an external monitor connected via HDMI which has better > sounding speakers than the internal ones. Sometimes I leave the > machine idle while keep playing audio on it, but shortly after the > lock screen kicks t

Re: system clock out of sync after a reboot

2019-11-23 Thread Michael Thompson via users
CMOs battery on the motherboard? > On 23 Nov 2019, at 14:00, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > I have chrony running and pointing to my ISP's time server, not the Fedora > pool, so it's always the same NTP server. > > This box is up 24/7, and I just rebooted it. And I get this, after a reboot: > >

Re: system clock out of sync after a reboot

2019-11-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2019-11-23 22:22, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 08:59:02 -0500 > Sam Varshavchik wrote: > >> Anyone know where to investigate this further? > The linux app that syncs to the hardware is "hwclock" (which > has various obscure parameters described in the man page). > > You could make a

google cloud print ending

2019-11-23 Thread Neal Becker
So what to do now?  On my android device, I installed a mopria app, and it  finds my brother laser printer just fine.  But to print from my linux  desktop, I've never setup a system printer, just depended on printing to  google cloud via chrome. From what info I found via google search, cups shoul

Re: system clock out of sync after a reboot

2019-11-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 08:59:02 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Anyone know where to investigate this further? The linux app that syncs to the hardware is "hwclock" (which has various obscure parameters described in the man page). You could make a script to sync with hwclock then reboot and see if t

Prevent turning off external monitor when playing audio though HDMI

2019-11-23 Thread Robert Mihaly
Hi everyone, I have an external monitor connected via HDMI which has better sounding speakers than the internal ones. Sometimes I leave the machine idle while keep playing audio on it, but shortly after the lock screen kicks the external monitor is turned off (power saving I guess) and the audi

system clock out of sync after a reboot

2019-11-23 Thread Sam Varshavchik
I have chrony running and pointing to my ISP's time server, not the Fedora pool, so it's always the same NTP server. This box is up 24/7, and I just rebooted it. And I get this, after a reboot: Nov 23 08:53:10 shorty chronyd[992]: System clock TAI offset set to 37 seconds Nov 23 08:53:10 short