Re: Xfce 4.14?

2019-03-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 4/1/19 1:03 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 3/31/19 9:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 4/1/19 12:03 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >>> Do you know if 4.14 be in Fedora 30? >> >> Well, if you download the latest F30 Xfce Live image you'd find out it is >> still 4.13. >> Also, I see no si

Re: Xfce 4.14?

2019-03-31 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 3/31/19 9:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 4/1/19 12:03 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Do you know if 4.14 be in Fedora 30? Well, if you download the latest F30 Xfce Live image you'd find out it is still 4.13. Also, I see no sign of 4.14 in Koji. Where did you find 30? ___

Re: Xfce 4.14?

2019-03-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 4/1/19 12:03 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Do you know if 4.14 be in Fedora 30? Well, if you download the latest F30 Xfce Live image you'd find out it is still 4.13.  Also, I see no sign of 4.14 in Koji. -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the defaul

Re: Xfce 4.14?

2019-03-31 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 3/31/19 4:58 PM, David Dusanic wrote: Sam Varshavchik: The only bug I'm aware of is the cursor pointer flickering, which is not even xfce's fault, but buggy Gnome code. xfce 4.13 has been fine for me. I understand the frustrations. There are indeed some bugs with Xfce 4.13 as it is not

Re: Need a statement on Fedora's purpose

2019-03-31 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 3/31/19 4:51 PM, David Dusanic wrote: Fedora is bleeding edge Not really. It is the next thing that is stable after the bleeding edge. Think LibreOffice and Firefox and the kernel. Are the repo's on the latest version? They are not. Just the one behind it usually. I look at Fedroa as up-

Re: Need a statement on Fedora's purpose

2019-03-31 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 3/31/19 4:51 PM, David Dusanic wrote: Fedora is 'unstable' in the sense of changing versions and adding new features on top of the latest release. CentOS/RHEL stays on fixed versions for a long time period giving you that kind of stability without change that enterprises want. I think the

Re: Need a statement on Fedora's purpose

2019-03-31 Thread David Dusanic
ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Anything on Fedora's relationship to Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) and the assertion that Fedora only exists as a test platform for testing RHEL? Some people say that and Fedora is the future, how RHEL will look like. Fedora is a community project sponsored by

Re: Xfce 4.14?

2019-03-31 Thread David Dusanic
Sam Varshavchik: The only bug I'm aware of is the cursor pointer flickering, which is not even xfce's fault, but buggy Gnome code. xfce 4.13 has been fine for me. I understand the frustrations. There are indeed some bugs with Xfce 4.13 as it is not really a stable release as is 4.12. I al

Re: Need a statement on Fedora's purpose

2019-03-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 01 Apr 2019 10:11:47 +1030 Tim via users wrote: > In that case, then Fedora is a useful debugging tool that helps them > predict the changes that they'll need to make for their product > continue to work with RHEL, CentOS, etc. That is absolutely the reason I run fedora on my desktop at w

Re: Need a statement on Fedora's purpose

2019-03-31 Thread David Dusanic
ToddAndMargo via users: Hi All,    I just had a vendor tell me they do not support Fedora Server because the the developers of Fedora had stated that it is not a stable release and is used only as a testing ground for Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL).  And as such, they only supported RHEL and C

Re: Need a statement on Fedora's purpose

2019-03-31 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2019-03-31 at 15:04 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > It means they have a problem in their code and don't feel > like fixing it. It is a different culture than open source. In that case, then Fedora is a useful debugging tool that helps them predict the changes that they'll need to

Re: Need a statement on Fedora's purpose

2019-03-31 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 3/31/19 2:49 AM, Tim via users wrote: On Fri, 2019-03-29 at 15:20 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I just had a vendor tell me they do not support Fedora Server because the the developers of Fedora had stated that it is not a stable release and is used only as a testing ground for Red Hat

Re: Need a statement on Fedora's purpose

2019-03-31 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2019-03-29 at 15:20 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > I just had a vendor tell me they do not support Fedora Server > because the the developers of Fedora had stated that it is not > a stable release and is used only as a testing ground for Red > Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL). And as su

Re: Firefox does not connect to a secure page

2019-03-31 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2019-03-30 at 23:46 +, Enrique Artal wrote: > Done! When replying via HyperKitty, please remember to quote some of the context. HK doesn't do this by default, leading to posts which are meaningless without looking back in the thread. Better still, use a real mail client instead of HK.