Re: booting and NVME on older motherboards

2018-10-24 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/24/18 3:55 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 10/24/18 2:11 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Is copying the /boot and /boot/efi partitions to the sata drive and editing /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg to point the /dev/sda instead of /dev/nvme0n1 all that needs doing?  No hidden firmare on the boo

Re: Networkmanager Wait Online Failing at Boot Time

2018-10-24 Thread Ed Greshko
FWIW As I mentioned earlier, my fstab contains ds6:/volume1/syntegra /syntegra   nfs4  rw,soft,bg,x-systemd.automount 0 0 The ping time between the client and server is about 288 ms.  After reboot when I first connect to the client system... [egreshko@acer ~]$ df Filesystem

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-24 Thread Dave Stevens
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:04:37 + Rick Stevens wrote: > Ah, the S-100 bus! Altair! IMSAI! Poly-88s! Vector Graphics! TDL! don't forget Godno Electronics! d -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My boo

Re: booting and NVME on older motherboards

2018-10-24 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 10/24/18 2:11 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Is copying the /boot and /boot/efi partitions to the sata drive and editing /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg to point the /dev/sda instead of /dev/nvme0n1 all that needs doing? No hidden firmare on the bootable drive like in the bios days? Is there

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:04:37 + Rick Stevens wrote: > Ah, the S-100 bus! Altair! IMSAI! Poly-88s! Vector Graphics! TDL! And never forget the switches on cards where you could select which interrupt to use instead of being forced to try every possible card in every possible slot to find the com

Re: Networkmanager Wait Online Failing at Boot Time

2018-10-24 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/25/18 5:42 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > I may or may not be having the rc.local issue as I don't appear to have one. You have to create it yourself. See /lib/systemd/system/rc-local.service    for details. FWIW, I used to use the method described by Tom but found it a pain to implemen

Re: Networkmanager Wait Online Failing at Boot Time

2018-10-24 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/25/18 5:25 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > I tried the x-systemd.automount parameter by adding it to the fstab entry and > then > trying 'ls /mnt/nfs' which doesn't automount the partition. Either the change > requires a > reboot to take effect (I've left it present to see what happens after ne

Re: Networkmanager Wait Online Failing at Boot Time

2018-10-24 Thread Stephen Morris
On 23/10/18 9:44 am, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:06:28 +1100 Stephen Morris wrote: My Nas Devices are failing to mount at boot time I've never see any indication that the wait online service works to achieve anything remotely useful. There have been threads in this list with huge

Re: Networkmanager Wait Online Failing at Boot Time

2018-10-24 Thread Stephen Morris
On 23/10/18 9:17 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/23/18 5:57 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 23/10/18 8:06 am, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi,     My Nas Devices are failing to mount at boot time because the Networkmanager Wait Online Service is failing at boot time. The following is the output from syst

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-24 Thread stan
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:42:44 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I am using Discourse with Nethserver.  It **DOES** have an email > interface!  I receive an email for each posting tagged in the subject > for which sub-forum it is associated with.  I CAN respond directly > via email, but it does tak

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-24 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 06:56:09PM -0700, stan wrote: Silverblue is the new name, only recently changed, for atomic host, Fedora's containerized OS. My understanding is that this is mostly for cloud usage. I don't think so:: "By F30, the Atomic variant will be the preferred Workstation of

booting and NVME on older motherboards

2018-10-24 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Has anyone gone through the exercise of setting up the boot environment for booting fedora on a system with an NVME drive where the motherboard UEFI code doesn't understand NVME disks? I did a clean install of fedora to the nvme and let anacondia do its thing. The only non-default item was using

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-24 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/24/18 10:55 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:49:39 + > Rick Stevens wrote: > >> The nastiest issues on any mobo still tend to be video- or wireless- >> related. Sometimes ACPI is a problem as well. > > My nastiest issue is always BIOS update. I'll follow the > instruction

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:49:39 + Rick Stevens wrote: > The nastiest issues on any mobo still tend to be video- or wireless- > related. Sometimes ACPI is a problem as well. My nastiest issue is always BIOS update. I'll follow the instructions to the letter and wind up with a bricked board and ha

Re: Excessive dependency

2018-10-24 Thread Bob Goodwin
CLOSE Dave wrote: After upgrading FC27 to FC28 (x86_64), Thunderbird became very unreliable and useful extensions stopped working. I decided to take the easy solution and just downgrade Thunderbird back to what I had with FC27. But for some reason, DNF thinks OpenOffice is dependent on Thunderbir

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-24 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/23/18 11:46 PM, lejeczek via users wrote: > > > On 23/10/2018 21:13, lejeczek via users wrote: >> Would you have a mobo you could recommend? > > I see I might have been a bit vague when asking about "mobo" - not for > the Lenovo(nor any laptop), but just a "regular" ATX mobo for desktop.

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-24 Thread Fred Smith
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 07:52:52AM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: >On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 3:31 AM Germano Massullo ><[1]germano.massu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > In my opinion Gigabyte makes the best desktop motherboards > >I agree. They are not always the highest rated but my current

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-24 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 3:31 AM Germano Massullo wrote: > In my opinion Gigabyte makes the best desktop motherboards > I agree. They are not always the highest rated but my current mb took a lightning surge through the ethernet port and killed it. While the primary BIOS was killed, the backup (D

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-24 Thread Robert Moskowitz
My $0.02 tossed into the fire I have not followed this thread and do not know if I will read everything that has occurred since this first post and now. I started on email in '92 with mcimail to interact with the IETF to work on the TN3270E project.  Got my domain name in '95.  Loved Eudo

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-24 Thread Bob Marcan
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:49:38 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2018-10-23 at 07:28 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > Discourse has very good RSS support and I've been testing the feeds for > > several weeks now. That feature > > works quite well - and keeps you from cluttering your inbox

Re: Font utopia in xournal

2018-10-24 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/24/18 5:44 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > How can I get the utopia font in xournal? > I tried several things, but none worked till now. What have you tried? Was one of the things installing the xorg-x11-fonts-Type1 package? -- Cardinal Rule of Presentations: "Tell them what you are going to t

Font utopia in xournal

2018-10-24 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, How can I get the utopia font in xournal? I tried several things, but none worked till now. Thank. === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmos

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-24 Thread Germano Massullo
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