can "more" and "less" be used effectively interchangeably?

2018-02-17 Thread Robert P. J. Day
currently perusing some linux courseware i'll be delivering later this month, and i'm fascinated by the early claim that the "more" and "less" commands can be used interchangeably. i don't recall that *ever* being the case, given that more is part of util-linux, and less is a separate package, a

Re: Dual screen

2018-02-17 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 18 February 2018 at 02:07, fred roller wrote: [...] > Normally, any PC to Monitor adjustments will be in the Display settings or > some such. Someone more knowledgeable could even tell you some of the > advance stuff in config files, monitor profile, and such. The monitor > itself should have

Re: Dual screen

2018-02-17 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 17 February 2018, stan sent: > Using monitors with different resolutions and dot pitches > at the same time must play havoc with font selection. Modern monitors (LCDs, etc), only work at one resolution, their native ones. If you don't drive the pixels with a 1:1 ratio of gr

Re: Dual screen

2018-02-17 Thread stan
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 17:18:59 -0800 Joe Zeff wrote: > Do you happen to remember the program's name? If so, it would be a > great help to anybody who needs it. In thinking about this a little more, I wonder if fred doesn't have the right of it. Using monitors with different resolutions and dot

Re: Dual screen

2018-02-17 Thread stan
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 17:18:59 -0800 Joe Zeff wrote: > Do you happen to remember the program's name? If so, it would be a > great help to anybody who needs it. It's a package, not a program, and it turns out to be freetype. They switched default font rendering, and turned off hinting. Here is

Re: Hardware errors

2018-02-17 Thread Rami Rosen
Hi, Anne, I have a question: does the boot completes and you reach the login screen ? ( or terminal if you are in non x mode) ? Or are you dropped to some sort of dracut or a maintenace mode ? Generally, as one of the replies mentions, there are sometimes errors messages that you can ignore. Rega

Re: Dual screen

2018-02-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/17/2018 04:06 PM, stan wrote: There was a conversation here about 6 months ago about the introduction of a different level of font hinting and a different font optimizer that many people found problematic. That is probably where your problem, and your solution, lies. Do you happen to rem

Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update

2018-02-17 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 14:58:22 -0800 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/17/2018 02:51 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > It is going to be in a log file.  So, you look or don't look.  Up > > to you.  Go to /var/log and see how many other logs are generated > > that you never look at and contain stuff most people won't

Re: Dual screen

2018-02-17 Thread fred roller
| The Hardware of the PC does not let me access to any monitor configuration. | It seems that every thing is automatic (It is a recent Asus Motherboard). Normally, any PC to Monitor adjustments will be in the Display settings or some such. Someone more knowledgeable could even tell you some of th

Re: Dual screen

2018-02-17 Thread stan
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 22:25:19 +0100 "Patrick Dupre" wrote: > The Hardware of the PC does not let me access to any monitor > configuration. It seems that every thing is automatic (It is a recent > Asus Motherboard). This doesn't seem right. Have you checked on their website? > The new monitor sa

Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update

2018-02-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/17/2018 02:51 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: It is going to be in a log file.  So, you look or don't look.  Up to you.  Go to /var/log and see how many other logs are generated that you never look at and contain stuff most people won't understand. I'm not saying that it shouldn't be done, just th

Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update

2018-02-17 Thread Todd Zullinger
Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/17/2018 02:32 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: >> If that's accepted, I or someone else can work on adding the >> same V=1 to the make command for the other nvidia-*-kmod >> packages. > > The question is, how many people would want to see the extra output or know > what to do with

Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update

2018-02-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/18/18 06:41, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/17/2018 02:32 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: >> If that's accepted, I or someone else can work on adding the >> same V=1 to the make command for the other nvidia-*-kmod >> packages. > > The question is, how many people would want to see the extra output or know

Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update

2018-02-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/17/2018 02:32 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: If that's accepted, I or someone else can work on adding the same V=1 to the make command for the other nvidia-*-kmod packages. The question is, how many people would want to see the extra output or know what to do with it? I know people who'd hav

Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update

2018-02-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/18/18 06:32, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Thanks for sending me on a fun hunt Ed. I sure am glad you did it.  I was too lazy.  Figured it works for vbox it "must" be the same for nVidia.  :-) :-) -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital si

Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update

2018-02-17 Thread Todd Zullinger
Ed Greshko wrote: > On 02/18/18 05:12, François Patte wrote: >> Le 17/02/2018 à 20:31, Ed Greshko a écrit : >>> On 02/18/18 02:10, François Patte wrote: returns that virtualbox drivers (vboxdrv, vboxnetflt, vboxnetadp, vboxpci) and nvidia driver were not compiled with a retpoline compiler

Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update

2018-02-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/17/18 23:48, François Patte wrote: >> Do you have any modules, such as a Wifi driver, that you've built yourself? > No! Well, vbox and nVidia do qualify.  :-)    See my other response. -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update

2018-02-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/18/18 05:12, François Patte wrote: > Le 17/02/2018 à 20:31, Ed Greshko a écrit : >> On 02/18/18 02:10, François Patte wrote: >>> returns that virtualbox drivers (vboxdrv, vboxnetflt, vboxnetadp, >>> vboxpci) and nvidia driver were not compiled with a retpoline compiler >>> >>> As these mo

Re: Dual screen

2018-02-17 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello,   The Hardware of the PC does not let me access to any monitor configuration. It seems that every thing is automatic (It is a recent Asus Motherboard).   The new monitor says that it is running with a resolution 1920x1080@60Hz. I guess that it may be correct if I check on the pictures,

Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update

2018-02-17 Thread François Patte
Le 17/02/2018 à 20:31, Ed Greshko a écrit : > On 02/18/18 02:10, François Patte wrote: >> returns that virtualbox drivers (vboxdrv, vboxnetflt, vboxnetadp, >> vboxpci) and nvidia driver were not compiled with a retpoline compiler >> >> As these modules are compiled on board with gcc using akmod

Re: Please help me with samba or my brain will explode.

2018-02-17 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Илья Коскин wrote: > Hello everybody. Here is my problem. I have two computers, both with fedora > workstation 27, both with selinux disabled, both fully updated. Both have the > same configuration of samba: > [global] > usershare max shares = 5 >

Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update

2018-02-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/18/18 02:10, François Patte wrote: > returns that virtualbox drivers (vboxdrv, vboxnetflt, vboxnetadp, > vboxpci) and nvidia driver were not compiled with a retpoline compiler > > As these modules are compiled on board with gcc using akmod, I suppose > that gcc is not a retpoline compiler

Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update

2018-02-17 Thread François Patte
Le 17/02/2018 à 18:11, Wolfgang Pfeiffer a écrit : > On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 13:25:06 +0100 > François Patte wrote: > >> Le 17/02/2018 à 12:59, Ed Greshko a écrit : >>> On 02/17/18 18:12, François Patte wrote: I just updated f27 and the new installed kernel (4.15.3-300.fc27.x86_64), sends

Re: Hardware errors

2018-02-17 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 13:00:23 + Anne Wilson wrote: > Hi. After a long time away from Linux I'll be asking some newby-type > questions, so I'll apologise from the start. > > I have just installed the KDE Spin of FC27 to a four-year-old Lenovo > G510 laptop, with a 120GB drive installed. Drin

Re: Hardware Errors

2018-02-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-02-17 at 17:33 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > On 17/02/2018, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Try 'journalctl -k -b' to see kernel > > messages since the most recent boot > > (Fabricated quote, as I never received your message in TBird. Sorted > now, I think.) > > Hi, Patrick. Tried tha

Re: Hardware Errors

2018-02-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On 17/02/2018, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Try 'journalctl -k -b' to see kernel > messages since the most recent boot (Fabricated quote, as I never received your message in TBird. Sorted now, I think.) Hi, Patrick. Tried that, resulting: mce: [Hardware Error]: CPU 0: M mce: [Hardware Error]:

Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update

2018-02-17 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 13:25:06 +0100 François Patte wrote: > Le 17/02/2018 à 12:59, Ed Greshko a écrit : > > On 02/17/18 18:12, François Patte wrote: > >> I just updated f27 and the new installed kernel > >> (4.15.3-300.fc27.x86_64), sends these messages at boot time: > >> > >> kernel: Spectre V2

Re: Dual screen

2018-02-17 Thread fred roller
... also, look to the Accessibility settings of the OS. Tell it you are hard of sight, this will help with global settings across the OS and should make most of the adjustments you are looking for in the rest of your software. ___ users mailing list -- u

Re: Dual screen

2018-02-17 Thread fred roller
On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 9:37 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > > > === > Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com > Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | > Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | > Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23

Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update

2018-02-17 Thread François Patte
Le 17/02/2018 à 14:32, Ed Greshko a écrit : > On 02/17/18 20:25, François Patte wrote: >>> [egreshko@acer vulnerabilities]$ cat spectre_v2 >>> Mitigation: Full generic retpoline >> this one gives: >> >> Mitigation: Full generic retpoline - vulnerable module loaded >> >> But does not give the module

Re: Dual screen

2018-02-17 Thread Patrick Dupre
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Re: Hardware errors

2018-02-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-02-17 at 13:00 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > Hi. After a long time away from Linux I'll be asking some newby-type > questions, so I'll apologise from the start. > > I have just installed the KDE Spin of FC27 to a four-year-old Lenovo > G510 laptop, with a 120GB drive installed. Dring

Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update

2018-02-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/17/18 20:25, François Patte wrote: >> [egreshko@acer vulnerabilities]$ cat spectre_v2 >> Mitigation: Full generic retpoline > this one gives: > > Mitigation: Full generic retpoline - vulnerable module loaded > > But does not give the module name!! Do you have any modules, such as a Wifi dri

Re: Dual screen

2018-02-17 Thread fred roller
I run dual screen on my laptop. If memory serves; 3 things may have an impact. First set your new monitor to 1600 x 1200 and see if it clears up, I seem to remember something about the ratio having an affect on resolution 1.33:1 vs 1.5:1 respectively for your monitors. If this is the case then t

Hardware errors

2018-02-17 Thread Anne Wilson
Hi. After a long time away from Linux I'll be asking some newby-type questions, so I'll apologise from the start. I have just installed the KDE Spin of FC27 to a four-year-old Lenovo G510 laptop, with a 120GB drive installed. Dring bootup I'm seeing messages about hardware failures. They don't

Dual screen

2018-02-17 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, I have 2 monitors (Samsung) One is old (11 years) with a resolution 1600 x 1200 (primary) and the other one, I just bought it, resolution 1920 x 1080 (secondary) But they look very different. The old one, display very sharp characters, the new one display very rough characters. This effect

Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update

2018-02-17 Thread François Patte
Le 17/02/2018 à 12:59, Ed Greshko a écrit : > On 02/17/18 18:12, François Patte wrote: >> I just updated f27 and the new installed kernel >> (4.15.3-300.fc27.x86_64), sends these messages at boot time: >> >> kernel: Spectre V2 : Mitigation: Full generic retpoline >> kernel: Spectre V2 : System may

Re: warning about spectre with last kernel update

2018-02-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/17/18 18:12, François Patte wrote: > I just updated f27 and the new installed kernel > (4.15.3-300.fc27.x86_64), sends these messages at boot time: > > kernel: Spectre V2 : Mitigation: Full generic retpoline > kernel: Spectre V2 : System may be vulnerable to spectre v2 > > What do they mean a

warning about spectre with last kernel update

2018-02-17 Thread François Patte
Bonjour, I just updated f27 and the new installed kernel (4.15.3-300.fc27.x86_64), sends these messages at boot time: kernel: Spectre V2 : Mitigation: Full generic retpoline kernel: Spectre V2 : System may be vulnerable to spectre v2 What do they mean and what to do? Waiting for next kernel upda