Re: installing updates not in the background on F26? reboot giving me a 15 min delay...

On 09/09/2017 05:24 PM, Peter Teuben wrote: Installed Fedora-26, which was fast and a snap... now doing the first reboot, since it wanted to install updates. I've been sitting here for literally 15 minutes watching a useless black screen... much like how windows does this.. Is that just an u

Re: Possible to "dnf upgrade" in a Fedora Gnome without the need to reboot?

Patrick O'Callaghan writes: In case it wasn't clear, I'm agreeing with you. However I still would like to know how to restart those services which don't come with a unit file, other than rebooting of course. The problem is that each case is different and many are not reliably documented. Right

installing updates not in the background on F26? reboot giving me a 15 min delay...

I'm coming back to trying out Fedora, because so far I've not liked the new Gnome3 implementation in Ubuntu 17.10 Installed Fedora-26, which was fast and a snap... now doing the first reboot, since it wanted to install updates. I've been sitting here for literally 15 minutes watching a useles

Re: ip forwarding/masquerading and dhcpd

On 09/09/2017 06:12 PM, Robert Nichols wrote: On 09/06/2017 02:46 PM, JD wrote: Hi, My em1 is config'ed as: ifconfig em1 inet 10.10.10.1 up netmask 0xff00 The wifi is connected to and internet and working OK. em1 is the lan. I have the following /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf file DHCPDARGS=em1

Re: ip forwarding/masquerading and dhcpd

On 09/06/2017 02:46 PM, JD wrote: Hi, My em1 is config'ed as: ifconfig em1 inet 10.10.10.1 up netmask 0xff00 The wifi is connected to and internet and working OK. em1 is the lan. I have the following /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf  file DHCPDARGS=em1; ddns-update-style interim; subnet 10.10.10.0 ne

Re: ip forwarding/masquerading and dhcpd

On 09/09/2017 01:03 PM, Bill Shirley wrote: If you're unable to get an IP address, there's no use concerning yourself about firewalling/forwarding. First get an address and then look at forwarding. If your DHCP is running, you should have messages in the log file. You can test your config

Re: ip forwarding/masquerading and dhcpd

If you're unable to get an IP address, there's no use concerning yourself about firewalling/forwarding.  First get an address and then look at forwarding. If your DHCP is running, you should have messages in the log file. You can test your config with: dhcpd -t Check that dhcp is running with: [

Re: ip forwarding/masquerading and dhcpd

On 09/08/2017 03:49 PM, Pete Travis wrote: On Sep 8, 2017 3:47 PM, "JD" > wrote: On 09/08/2017 01:27 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 09/07/2017 07:15 PM, JD wrote: On 09/07/2017 01:31 PM, Bill Shirley wrote: Look in your log fi

Re: Possible to "dnf upgrade" in a Fedora Gnome without the need to reboot?

On Sat, 2017-09-09 at 09:34 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan writes: > > > NB: "replace" means "unlink the old one and create the new one with the > > same name", e.g. using "mv". Overwriting the old file with new data is > > different and in the case of executables or libraries

Re: Possible to "dnf upgrade" in a Fedora Gnome without the need to reboot?

On Sat, Sep 09, 2017 at 09:34:00AM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > In short, there is no valid, technical, fundamental reason why a dnf > upgrade should leave the system in an unstable state, or somehow > interfere with any running daemon; and why a running daemon has to > intentionally go out of i

Re: Possible to "dnf upgrade" in a Fedora Gnome without the need to reboot?

On Thu, 07 Sep 2017 11:00:06 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: > I highly recommend using tmux or screen, Or simply use nohup and "dnf -y". For example like this: nohup dnf -y upgrade >& /var/tmp/dnf-upgrade.log & -- francis.montag...@inria.fr ___ users

Re: Possible to "dnf upgrade" in a Fedora Gnome without the need to reboot?

Patrick O'Callaghan writes: NB: "replace" means "unlink the old one and create the new one with the same name", e.g. using "mv". Overwriting the old file with new data is different and in the case of executables or libraries will almost certainly cause problems. Which is why rpm does not insta

Re: Possible to "dnf upgrade" in a Fedora Gnome without the need to reboot?

On Sat, 2017-09-09 at 14:16 +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > If this were actually true, I would not be > > able to build and link with the new C++ library, and its changed ABI, and I > > > > would get immediate runtime segfaults after linking with the new library, > > but still loading t

Re: Possible to "dnf upgrade" in a Fedora Gnome without the need to reboot?

On Fri, 2017-09-08 at 18:06 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Sam: Thanks for all your effort: The following paragraph seems to be a crucial part of what you are trying to explain - but there are a few instances where I don't understand what is what. What you were writing about seems to be one of th