Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread g
On 08/20/15 21:50, Ed Greshko wrote: <<>> > Oh, this may be the "real" POP3 solution you're needing > > https://support.google.com/mail/answer/47948?hl=en > . good info link Ed. thank you for posting. made changes to tower. now to let some emails build, then pull and check to see what happen

Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/21/15 10:14, jd1008 wrote: > > Phew!!! THAT WAS IT!!! > Oh, this may be the "real" POP3 solution you're needing https://support.google.com/mail/answer/47948?hl=en -- It seems most people that say they are "done talking about it" never really are until given the last word. -- users

Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/21/15 10:14, jd1008 wrote: > Phew!!! THAT WAS IT!!! While that will "fix" the issue initially it probably will introduce a new "issue". Doing that process multiple times on a given client will probably result in that client getting multiple copies of the same messages as there is no way

Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread g
On 08/20/15 21:14, g wrote: <<>> > that is because gmail is gmail is gmail. therefore, gmail is not like > real email servers. if _any_ email is read, it is marked as read no > matter who reads it. > > best thing for your friend to do is get an account with a real mail > server and have that ser

Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread jd1008
On 08/20/2015 08:05 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/21/15 07:06, jd1008 wrote: A friend came to me asking for help I was not able to figure out. He has multiple laptops, at different geographical locations. On all of them, he uses fedora and TB. What he has bot been able to achieve is that all l

Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread g
On 08/20/15 19:37, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 08/20/2015 06:29 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 08/20/2015 05:12 PM, jd1008 wrote: >>> I thought the the option to leave messages on server applies >>> only to the POP3 accounts, since POP3 actually downloads >>> all new messages. >> >> Sorry; I was under th

Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/21/15 07:06, jd1008 wrote: > > A friend came to me asking for help I was not able to > figure out. > > He has multiple laptops, at different geographical locations. > On all of them, he uses fedora and TB. > > What he has bot been able to achieve is that all laptops > download the same messag

Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread jd1008
On 08/20/2015 07:21 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 19:10:06 -0600 jd1008 wrote: So, I am puzzled why the next TB client is not downloading his new messages. Mail clients can explicitly delete messages, which would render any google server setting useless if TB is doing that. Perh

Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 19:10:06 -0600 jd1008 wrote: > So, I am puzzled why the next TB client is not downloading > his new messages. Mail clients can explicitly delete messages, which would render any google server setting useless if TB is doing that. Perhaps there is a TB account setting that can b

Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread jd1008
On 08/20/2015 06:52 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/20/2015 05:42 PM, jd1008 wrote: But, once downloaded by one of his TB clients, he is not able to download them on the other TB client. This is the issue. I am sure you read my reply to Joe Zeff. I think it IS the gmail server that is doing this, bu

Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/20/2015 05:42 PM, jd1008 wrote: But, once downloaded by one of his TB clients, he is not able to download them on the other TB client. This is the issue. I am sure you read my reply to Joe Zeff. I think it IS the gmail server that is doing this, but none of the settings betray how it is don

Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread jd1008
On 08/20/2015 06:37 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 18:34:55 -0600 jd1008 wrote: Keep GMail's copy in the Inbox Which is do nothing. It is already in the inbox, it stays in the inbox. But, once downloaded by one of his TB clients, he is not able to download them on the other TB c

Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread jd1008
On 08/20/2015 06:29 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/20/2015 05:12 PM, jd1008 wrote: I thought the the option to leave messages on server applies only to the POP3 accounts, since POP3 actually downloads all new messages. Sorry; I was under the impression that you were using POP3. My mistake. Too

Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 18:34:55 -0600 jd1008 wrote: > Keep GMail's copy in the Inbox Which is do nothing. It is already in the inbox, it stays in the inbox. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/lis

Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread jd1008
On 08/20/2015 06:23 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 18:12:25 -0600 jd1008 wrote: Does gmail server keep a flag that the messages were already downloaded?? If so, how can a user prevent that flag from being set on the gmail server? Go to your gmail account settings and look at the

Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/20/2015 05:12 PM, jd1008 wrote: I thought the the option to leave messages on server applies only to the POP3 accounts, since POP3 actually downloads all new messages. Sorry; I was under the impression that you were using POP3. My mistake. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.

Re: Removing old kernels using dnf leaves files in /boot

2015-08-20 Thread Martin Cigorraga
Hello Clemens, Adding to what Germán already said you might be interested in checking the dnf configuration file, /etc/dnf/dnf.conf -- and look for this paramenter: installonly_limit=2 To learn about it: $ man dnf.conf Cheers On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 4:00 PM Clemens Eisserer wrote: > > Because

Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 18:12:25 -0600 jd1008 wrote: > Does gmail server keep a flag that the messages were already downloaded?? > If so, how can a user prevent that flag from being set on the gmail server? Go to your gmail account settings and look at the pop/imap tab. There is a setting for what th

Re: how do i pick up the new rpms in updates-testing?

2015-08-20 Thread Martin Cigorraga
Try refreshing your local cache: # dnf clean metadata expire-cache. If that doesn't work, a # dnf clean all should do it. If you still doesn't see the packages you're looking for then you'll have to wait for your mirrors to sync up. On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 6:31 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, 20

Re: This is what I was talking about

2015-08-20 Thread Martin Cigorraga
What!? Is this a part of another thread or what? On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 8:38 PM Sylvia Sánchez wrote: > Because every one of them are pulling the rope in the direction of its > own way and benefit. > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread jd1008
On 08/20/2015 06:06 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/20/2015 04:06 PM, jd1008 wrote: How can he config TB to always download messages that have not been downloaded? Are all copies set to leave the messages on the server? I believe so. Is that what prevents TB from auto-downloading all messages if

Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/20/2015 04:06 PM, jd1008 wrote: How can he config TB to always download messages that have not been downloaded? Are all copies set to leave the messages on the server? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedorapr

Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/20/2015 04:06 PM, jd1008 wrote: I have seen a solution that advises the use of IMAP instead of pop3. But that is not what he wants, because sometimes he does not have access to the web, and would still like to read messages he has not read yet, so he needs them to be on the laptops. So

Re: This is what I was talking about

2015-08-20 Thread Sylvia Sánchez
Because every one of them are pulling the rope in the direction of its own way and benefit. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/cod

Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread jd1008
A friend came to me asking for help I was not able to figure out. He has multiple laptops, at different geographical locations. On all of them, he uses fedora and TB. What he has bot been able to achieve is that all laptops download the same messages from gmail. But what happens is that if lap

Re: how do i pick up the new rpms in updates-testing?

2015-08-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 17:25:25 -0400 (EDT) "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: > no, my updates-testing repo *is* enabled ... i'm asking about an > obvious time lag from the time i see those rpms in the repo, and when > my local dnf command finally sees them. So, if you look at: http://dl.fedoraproject.

Re: bad update info

2015-08-20 Thread Frank McCormick
On 20/08/15 05:23 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 17:18:33 -0400 Frank McCormick wrote: I still use Yum to update my Fedora 21 install...and today got this: Update notice FEDORA-2015-13197 (from updates-testing) is broken, or a bad duplicate, skipping. You should report this proble

Re: how do i pick up the new rpms in updates-testing?

2015-08-20 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015, Zach Villers wrote: > sudo dnf config-manager --set-enabled updates-testing > should enable the repo you need. no, my updates-testing repo *is* enabled ... i'm asking about an obvious time lag from the time i see those rpms in the repo, and when my local dnf command finally

Re: bad update info

2015-08-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 17:18:33 -0400 Frank McCormick wrote: > I still use Yum to update my Fedora 21 install...and today > got this: > > Update notice FEDORA-2015-13197 (from updates-testing) is broken, or > a bad duplicate, skipping. > You should report this problem to the owner of the updates-te

bad update info

2015-08-20 Thread Frank McCormick
I still use Yum to update my Fedora 21 install...and today got this: Update notice FEDORA-2015-13197 (from updates-testing) is broken, or a bad duplicate, skipping. You should report this problem to the owner of the updates-testing repository. Update notice FEDORA-2015-12912 (from updates-testi

Re: how do i pick up the new rpms in updates-testing?

2015-08-20 Thread Zach Villers
sudo dnf config-manager --set-enabled updates-testingshould enable the repo you need. On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 16:41:32 -0400 Robert P. J. Day almost certainly a stupid question, but how do i force "dnf update" to consult the latest mirrors to see the new packages no

how do i pick up the new rpms in updates-testing?

2015-08-20 Thread Robert P. J. Day
almost certainly a stupid question, but how do i force "dnf update" to consult the latest mirrors to see the new packages now available? i can *see* here: http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/22/x86_64/n/ the new NetworkManager rpm that solves a particular problem i'

HP CP3525dn Printer Doesn't Work with Fedora 22

2015-08-20 Thread thraex
Hi, I upgraded to Fedora 22 (MATE desktop) on an HP Pavillion p6-2310ef and it's connected to an HP Color Laserjet CP3525dn printer via USB. The problem is that although in previous versions of Fedora everything was working fine, since Fedora 20 or 21 the printer silently ignores all print re

Re: Removing old kernels using dnf leaves files in /boot

2015-08-20 Thread Clemens Eisserer
> Because those files belong to the package kernel-core. kernel is a meta > package and contains no files. A that explains it, thanks a lot :) Best regards, Clemens -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/

Re: Removing old kernels using dnf leaves files in /boot

2015-08-20 Thread Germán Racca
On 08/20/2015 12:02 PM, Clemens Eisserer wrote: Hi, Because I run my linux installation on "real" hardware as well as using VirtualBox I need manual control when old kernels (which have vbox extensions) are removed. Recently I tried to remove old kernel packages with dnf ("dnf remove kernel-4.1.

Removing old kernels using dnf leaves files in /boot

2015-08-20 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi, Because I run my linux installation on "real" hardware as well as using VirtualBox I need manual control when old kernels (which have vbox extensions) are removed. Recently I tried to remove old kernel packages with dnf ("dnf remove kernel-4.1.3-201.fc22"), yet the files contained in this pack

Re: dnf: not found deltainfo and updateinfo

2015-08-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 08/20/2015 09:46 AM, Jan Zelený wrote: On 20. 8. 2015 at 08:42:31, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I used the -v option and saw all these messages for all of my repos (Fedora, Fedora-update, Adobe, rpmfusion free and non-free). I kind of get the no deltainfo message. I did not download the delta r

Re: dnf: not found deltainfo and updateinfo

2015-08-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 08/20/2015 09:46 AM, Jon Ingason wrote: Den 2015-08-20 kl. 15:29, skrev Robert Moskowitz: On 08/20/2015 09:09 AM, Jon Ingason wrote: Den 2015-08-20 kl. 14:42, skrev Robert Moskowitz: I used the -v option and saw all these messages for all of my repos (Fedora, Fedora-update, Adobe, rpmfus

Re: dnf: not found deltainfo and updateinfo

2015-08-20 Thread Jan Zelený
On 20. 8. 2015 at 08:42:31, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I used the -v option and saw all these messages for all of my repos > (Fedora, Fedora-update, Adobe, rpmfusion free and non-free). I kind of > get the no deltainfo message. I did not download the delta rpms to my > local repos for Fedora and Fe

Re: doing docker build, "SELinux is preventing /usr/libexec/abrt-hook-ccpp from using the sigchld access on a process.", kills wireless

2015-08-20 Thread Daniel J Walsh
You have a bad label on /etc/resolv.conf. restorecon -v /etc/resolv.conf I have no idea how this is getting mislabeled. Are you doing anything special with /etc/resolv.conf? Also turn on the cups_execmem boolean setsebool -P cups_execmem 1 On 08/19/2015 10:10 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On

Re: dnf: not found deltainfo and updateinfo

2015-08-20 Thread Jon Ingason
Den 2015-08-20 kl. 15:29, skrev Robert Moskowitz: > > > On 08/20/2015 09:09 AM, Jon Ingason wrote: >> Den 2015-08-20 kl. 14:42, skrev Robert Moskowitz: >>> I used the -v option and saw all these messages for all of my repos >>> (Fedora, Fedora-update, Adobe, rpmfusion free and non-free). I kind o

Re: dnf: not found deltainfo and updateinfo

2015-08-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 08/20/2015 09:09 AM, Jon Ingason wrote: Den 2015-08-20 kl. 14:42, skrev Robert Moskowitz: I used the -v option and saw all these messages for all of my repos (Fedora, Fedora-update, Adobe, rpmfusion free and non-free). I kind of get the no deltainfo message. I did not download the delta rp

Re: dnf: not found deltainfo and updateinfo

2015-08-20 Thread Jon Ingason
Den 2015-08-20 kl. 14:42, skrev Robert Moskowitz: > I used the -v option and saw all these messages for all of my repos > (Fedora, Fedora-update, Adobe, rpmfusion free and non-free). I kind of > get the no deltainfo message. I did not download the delta rpms to my > local repos for Fedora and Fedo

dnf: not found deltainfo and updateinfo

2015-08-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I used the -v option and saw all these messages for all of my repos (Fedora, Fedora-update, Adobe, rpmfusion free and non-free). I kind of get the no deltainfo message. I did not download the delta rpms to my local repos for Fedora and Fedora-update, and not supprised the others don't have. I