On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Tim wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-03-17 at 21:22 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> Sounds like a UI bug.
>
> Agreed. And, it would appear, that becomes a "don't really care about
> fixing it" issue, as sound still works, even if the controls are
> backwards.
>
>> Are you tal
On 17Mar2015 14:51, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 03/14/2015 04:17 PM, jd1008 wrote:
$ lsof | grep Sent
thunderbi 3165 jd 37u REG 8,19 3107745
62260168 /sdb3/home/jd/.thunderbird/jd1008/Mail/pop.googlemail.com/Sent.msf
Gecko_IOT 3165 3192 jd 37u REG 8
On 03/18/15 12:42, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 03/17/2015 08:22 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> 2. how to provide useful debugging info - if the user will not test a
>> non-tainted kernel I see no possible way for an automated system to
>> know where to file the bug
>
> You are assuming that it's practical (or
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:42 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 03/17/2015 08:22 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>> 2. how to provide useful debugging info - if the user will not test a
>> non-tainted kernel I see no possible way for an automated system to
>> know where to file the bug
>
>
> You are assuming th
On Tue, 2015-03-17 at 21:22 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Sounds like a UI bug.
Agreed. And, it would appear, that becomes a "don't really care about
fixing it" issue, as sound still works, even if the controls are
backwards.
> Are you talking about tainted kernels (3rd party, out of tree kernel
On 03/17/2015 08:22 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
2. how to provide useful debugging info - if the user will not test a
non-tainted kernel I see no possible way for an automated system to
know where to file the bug
You are assuming that it's practical (or even possible) to run without a
tainted kern
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Tim wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-03-17 at 14:51 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> If you know the site already, why not just file the bug directly on
>> that bugzilla? Why does it need to be automated?
>
> As a general response, I'd say that:
>
> People are more likely to mak
Hello
I am having a problem with umountint an ntfs-3g mounted filesystem
This is the output I get from the commands
[siirfe@010121 ~]$ mount /mnt/mac/
[siirfe@010121 ~]$ mount |grep mac
/dev/sdb1 on /mnt/mac type fuseblk
(rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,user_id=1002,group_id=1002,allow_other,blk
On Tue, 2015-03-17 at 14:51 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> If you know the site already, why not just file the bug directly on
> that bugzilla? Why does it need to be automated?
As a general response, I'd say that:
People are more likely to make a bug report if it's not a protracted
exercise for th
On 03/17/2015 06:45 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 03/17/2015 04:23 PM, jd1008 wrote:
On this old dell (dual pentium), connecting the external
drive (a seagate 2TB external 2.5" "backup plus" drive.
When I got the drive, I connected it after booting into fedora.
Partition 1 contained some window
On 03/17/2015 06:43 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
No bootloader code.
It has no partition 1 or 2 entry, they're in 3 and 4.
Ooosp! Right.
They are indeed.
there are no other partitions.
I guess you already saw my response to Joe Zeff??
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On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
> It's pretty common for the BIOS to, by default, try to boot external
> media (CD ROM, USB, eSATA and such) BEFORE booting a local hard disk.
If it's common, it's a good reason to consider parted's behavior a bug
these days, because it guaran
On 03/17/2015 04:23 PM, jd1008 wrote:
On this old dell (dual pentium), connecting the external
drive (a seagate 2TB external 2.5" "backup plus" drive.
When I got the drive, I connected it after booting into fedora.
Partition 1 contained some windows related stuff for backup.
I backed it up to a
On 03/17/2015 08:38 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 03/17/2015 05:23 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
This is really a problem that I have had since I installed F21. It was
a clean install, not an update.
Anyway, when I connect to various servers that are setup for user/paswd
login, it is a while befo
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 6:28 PM, jd1008 wrote:
>
>
> On 03/17/2015 06:19 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>> dd if=/dev/sdX count=1 2>/dev/null | hexdump -C
>
> # dd if=/dev/sdb bs=440 count=1 2>/dev/null | hexdump -C
> 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> ||
>
On 03/17/2015 06:31 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 03/17/2015 05:04 PM, jd1008 wrote:
Sorry, my bad!!
I meant partition 1 as ext4.
Thank you; that seems much more reasonable.
Well, I just rebooted. I looked into the bios, and the boot order
was to boot from
1. cd/dvd
2. usb drive
3. internal drive
On 03/17/2015 08:23 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
This is really a problem that I have had since I installed F21. It
was a clean install, not an update.
Anyway, when I connect to various servers that are setup for
user/paswd login, it is a while before I see the password prompt.
After worki
On 03/17/2015 05:23 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
This is really a problem that I have had since I installed F21. It was
a clean install, not an update.
Anyway, when I connect to various servers that are setup for user/paswd
login, it is a while before I see the password prompt.
After working on
On 03/17/2015 05:04 PM, jd1008 wrote:
Sorry, my bad!!
I meant partition 1 as ext4.
Thank you; that seems much more reasonable.
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On 03/17/2015 06:19 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
dd if=/dev/sdX count=1 2>/dev/null | hexdump -C
# dd if=/dev/sdb bs=440 count=1 2>/dev/null | hexdump -C
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
||
*
01b0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 17:23:30 -0600
jd1008 wrote:
> Now, if I power up with this external drive connected (usb3),
> all I get is a cursor at upper left corner.
Sounds to me like the bios is trying to boot from that
drive and can't handle it gracefully. I'd see if you
can change the BIOS boot setti
This is really a problem that I have had since I installed F21. It was
a clean install, not an update.
Anyway, when I connect to various servers that are setup for user/paswd
login, it is a while before I see the password prompt.
After working on the system for a while, the session is sudden
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 6:08 PM, jd1008 wrote:
>
>
> On 03/17/2015 05:58 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>> The solution is to go to firmware setup and define a different drive
>> as primary. Or zero the first 440 bytes of the external drive e.g. dd
>> if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=440 count=1
>
> Intere
On 03/18/15 08:05, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 03/16/15 21:13, Tom Horsley wrote:
>> according to http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia you now need
>> something absurd like:"kernel-devel-uname-r == $(uname -r)"
>> added to the yum command.
> I don't think that is anything new under the sun. On the initial
On 03/17/2015 05:58 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 5:23 PM, jd1008 wrote:
Partition 2 is 8GB swap partition.
I formatted partition 2 ext4.
I'm confused because this seems like partition 2 is swap and ext4.
Now, if I power up with this external drive connected (usb3),
all
On 03/17/2015 05:58 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
The solution is to go to firmware setup and define a different drive
as primary. Or zero the first 440 bytes of the external drive e.g. dd
if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=440 count=1
Interesting.
I used fdisk.
I guess fdisk does not clear those first 440
On 03/16/15 21:13, Tom Horsley wrote:
> according to http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia you now need
> something absurd like:"kernel-devel-uname-r == $(uname -r)"
> added to the yum command.
I don't think that is anything new under the sun. On the initial install that
is just ensuring you're inst
On 03/17/2015 05:56 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 03/17/2015 04:23 PM, jd1008 wrote:
Partition 2 is 8GB swap partition.
I formatted partition 2 ext4.
Why, and how? I don't think I've ever seen anaconda ask how a swap
partition is to be formatted, because the kernel doesn't use a
filesystem when
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 5:23 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> Partition 2 is 8GB swap partition.
> I formatted partition 2 ext4.
I'm confused because this seems like partition 2 is swap and ext4.
> Now, if I power up with this external drive connected (usb3),
> all I get is a cursor at upper left corner.
On 03/17/2015 04:23 PM, jd1008 wrote:
Partition 2 is 8GB swap partition.
I formatted partition 2 ext4.
Why, and how? I don't think I've ever seen anaconda ask how a swap
partition is to be formatted, because the kernel doesn't use a
filesystem when reading/writing swap so the partition is le
On 03/17/2015 04:06 PM, jd1008 wrote:
If that's not what you want, then select your Name-Removed-by-me
account, make sure that the option to "Place a copy" of your sent mail
is checked, and then select whatever folder you want to store mail for
that account.
You misunderstood.
I meant that accou
On this old dell (dual pentium), connecting the external
drive (a seagate 2TB external 2.5" "backup plus" drive.
When I got the drive, I connected it after booting into fedora.
Partition 1 contained some windows related stuff for backup.
I backed it up to another drive.
I partitioned the drive
On 03/17/2015 03:58 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 03/14/2015 03:45 PM, jd1008 wrote:
All of the items under copies and folders (sent, archives, drafts and
templates),
are being saved in
@gmail.com
so are those in the account jd1008.
It gets very hard to interpret support requests when you re
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 03:29:55PM -0600, jd1008 wrote:
> Also, how about abrt CREATE the full report, and let the user
> save it in a file, and submit it to anyone s/he desires?
> Is THAT too much to ask for???
Well, you can _ask_ for anything. It is definitely too much to expect
someone else to
On Mar 17, 2015 3:30 PM, "jd1008" wrote:
>
> Because the user is not provided with an easy
> way to generate the crash report with a full stack dump
> of all the CPUS, the full contents of RAM and the full
> kernel binary - so that the dev (who would work on the report)
> can do a reasonable sta
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 02:46:15PM -0600, jd1008 wrote:
> >Why bother with this infrastructure if no one is going to look at
> >the reports or do anything about them?
> They are bugzilla servers, and follow the same protocol of bug
> submission as the fedora and the redhat report submission protoco
On 03/14/2015 03:45 PM, jd1008 wrote:
All of the items under copies and folders (sent, archives, drafts and
templates),
are being saved in
@gmail.com
so are those in the account jd1008.
It gets very hard to interpret support requests when you redact the
pertinent information.
If all of the
On 03/14/2015 04:17 PM, jd1008 wrote:
$ lsof | grep Sent
thunderbi 3165 jd 37u REG 8,19 3107745
62260168 /sdb3/home/jd/.thunderbird/jd1008/Mail/pop.googlemail.com/Sent.msf
Gecko_IOT 3165 3192 jd 37u REG 8,19 3107745
62260168 /sdb3/home/jd/.thunde
On 03/17/2015 02:51 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 03/17/2015 01:26 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
If the kernel aborts and abrt determines it's a tainted
kernel, then it could pop up this list of additional sites and let the
user report the crash to
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> On 17.03.2015, stan wrote:
>>
>> I think cgroups are integrated into Fedora, and so the CFS with
>> cgroup is required. Thus, BFS will probably not work in Fedora,
>> as it has no support for cgroups.
>
> CFS is not required at all, and so are
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
> On 03/17/2015 01:26 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> a. It actually has to communicate with a server, so whose hosting this
>> "other" bugzilla?
>
>
> I think the point here is that a user could configure ADDITIONAL
> bugzilla sites.
Do you have e
On 03/17/2015 02:41 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 03/17/2015 01:26 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:15 PM, jd1008 wrote:
On 03/16/2015 02:58 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 03/16/2015 12:37 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
Just because the crash doesn't occur in an out of tree module,
do
On 03/17/2015 02:26 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:15 PM, jd1008 wrote:
On 03/16/2015 02:58 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 03/16/2015 12:37 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
Just because the crash doesn't occur in an out of tree module, doesn't
mean that the out of tree module isn't inst
On 03/17/2015 01:26 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:15 PM, jd1008 wrote:
On 03/16/2015 02:58 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 03/16/2015 12:37 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
Just because the crash doesn't occur in an out of tree module, doesn't
mean that the out of tree module isn't ins
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 03/17/2015 01:26 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>> Why bother with this infrastructure if no one is going to look at the
>> reports or do anything about them?
>
>
> Why do you assume that nobody's going to pay attention to those bug reports?
Becau
On 03/17/2015 01:26 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
Why bother with this infrastructure if no one is going to look at the
reports or do anything about them?
Why do you assume that nobody's going to pay attention to those bug reports?
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On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:15 PM, jd1008 wrote:
>
>
> On 03/16/2015 02:58 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>>
>> On 03/16/2015 12:37 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Just because the crash doesn't occur in an out of tree module, doesn't
>>> mean that the out of tree module isn't instigating the problem thoug
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:11 PM, jd1008 wrote:
>
>
> On 03/16/2015 01:37 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:44 AM, jd1008 wrote:
>>
>>> Since none of the crashes occur in the modules
>>> inserted via akmods, why is the fedora abrt not
>>> allowing thes ending of such reports
On 03/16/2015 05:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
cat /proc/sys/kernel/tainted
Ed, even that is no help.
MY kernel is tainted by mods from rpmfusion. yet:
$ cat /proc/sys/kernel/tainted
0
So, what does that leave the user?
abrt says it is tainted, which is correct.
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On 03/16/2015 02:58 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 03/16/2015 12:37 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
Just because the crash doesn't occur in an out of tree module, doesn't
mean that the out of tree module isn't instigating the problem though.
Agreed. That's why I suggested trying to duplicate the crash wit
On 03/16/2015 02:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:44:16AM -0600, jd1008 wrote:
Since none of the crashes occur in the modules
inserted via akmods, why is the fedora abrt not
allowing thes ending of such reports?
Kernel modules can pretty much do whatever they like once
On 03/16/2015 01:37 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:44 AM, jd1008 wrote:
Since none of the crashes occur in the modules
inserted via akmods, why is the fedora abrt not
allowing thes ending of such reports?
I think this question needs to go to the Fedora devel@ list, or ma
On 17.03.2015, stan wrote:
> I think cgroups are integrated into Fedora, and so the CFS with
> cgroup is required. Thus, BFS will probably not work in Fedora,
> as it has no support for cgroups.
CFS is not required at all, and so are cgroups. Any kernel with the BFS patch
applied will run just
On 17.03.2015, stan wrote:
> Lucky you!
Lucky? The machine was fully unusable.
> Are you using F21? Which kernel?
Yes, this machine is on F21.
[htd@chiara ~]$ uname -a
Linux chiara.fritha.org 3.19.2-rc1-bfq #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Mar 16 16:16:07 CET
2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
It's a c
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 20:56:37 +0100
Heinz Diehl wrote:
> http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/3.0/3.18/3.18-sched-bfs-460.patch
> (BFS is designed with latency in mind, not throughput).
By significant workaround and patching in kernel/sched, I was able to
compile a kernel without FAIR_CGROUP_SCHED ac
On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 16:05:37 +0100
Heinz Diehl wrote:
> On 09.03.2015, Martin Cigorraga wrote:
>
> > Just a minor clarification: when compiling, the -j flag should
> > point to a unit above your available cores in order to fully
> > utilize all of them.
>
> Curious what would happen, I remembe
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 08:08:04AM +0100, Niels Weber wrote:
> Is there any way that I missed so far? Or is it simply not possible?
Please try:
$ loginctl list-sessions
$ loginctl lock-session $ID
$ loginctl unlock-session $ID
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Am Dienstag, den 17.03.2015, 15:49 +0800 schrieb Ed Greshko:
> On 03/17/15 15:08, Niels Weber wrote:
> > I'm experimenting around with blueproximity (on F21). The default
> > commands it uses to lock and unlock the screen use the
> > gnome-screensaver-command tool, that doesn't exist any more. I al
On 03/17/15 15:08, Niels Weber wrote:
> I'm experimenting around with blueproximity (on F21). The default
> commands it uses to lock and unlock the screen use the
> gnome-screensaver-command tool, that doesn't exist any more. I already
> found out that I can lock the screen by sending a dbus comman
Hi,
I'm experimenting around with blueproximity (on F21). The default
commands it uses to lock and unlock the screen use the
gnome-screensaver-command tool, that doesn't exist any more. I already
found out that I can lock the screen by sending a dbus command:
dbus-send --type=method_call --dest=o
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