installing fedora on HEWLETT PACKARD pavilion 500

2015-03-14 Thread Angelo Moreschini
Hi Chris, I send you again this message I followed your suggestion: I tried efibootmgr -v and I got this output: *"efibootmgr: EFI variables are not supported on this system."* because this message I though the installation is not good and found this link: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questi

Re: installing fedora on HEWLETT PACKARD pavilion 500

2015-03-14 Thread Angelo Moreschini
Hi Chris, I send you again this message I followed your suggestion: I tried efibootmgr -v and I got this output: *"efibootmgr: EFI variables are not supported on this system."* because this message I though the installation is not good and found this link: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questi

Re: Is SMART really that dumb?

2015-03-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7pVI_DKcKbySURleHpJSXdpZWs/view?usp=sharing Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical It's a 512e AF drive. Whether using dd or badblocks to do this, the block size needs to be 4096 (bytes) to wri

Re: Is SMART really that dumb?

2015-03-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 19:33:13 -0600 Chris Murphy wrote: > This is consistent with a single sector on a 512e AF drive. If it's > unreadable, somewhere in the journal or messages is a read error or > link reset. You could search for "media error" and "hard resetting > link". The logs go back to apri

Re: Is SMART really that dumb?

2015-03-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 16:42:37 -0600 > Chris Murphy wrote: > >> If there's a definite latent sector error, this shows up with a >> 'smarctl -t long' which will be aborted at the first error found. The >> LBA for this shows up under LBA_of_first_e

Re: autoconnect bluetooth mouse?

2015-03-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 17:45 -0600, jd1008 wrote: > > On 03/14/2015 05:40 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 13:39 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > >> Just got a logitech bt m557 mouse. Using it on F21 (kde). > >> > >> One annoyance, it does not automatically connect when the mach

Re: Is SMART really that dumb?

2015-03-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:18:37 -0700 Joe Zeff wrote: > As long as the drive keeps working and the number of bad > sectors doesn't increase, you don't need to do anything unusual. Except make more space for /var/log/messages as it spews the same dadgum errors over and over again :-). -- users mail

Re: Is SMART really that dumb?

2015-03-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/14/2015 04:56 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: It seems to be telling me there is nothing wrong and something wrong at the same time. It looks to me as though it's not telling you that the drive is perfect but that the number of errors are is small enough that there's no reason to worry. As long

Re: Is SMART really that dumb?

2015-03-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 16:42:37 -0600 Chris Murphy wrote: > If there's a definite latent sector error, this shows up with a > 'smarctl -t long' which will be aborted at the first error found. The > LBA for this shows up under LBA_of_first_error. I actually ran one of those when I first started seein

Re: Is SMART really that dumb?

2015-03-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:13:15 -0600 > Chris Murphy wrote: > >> The top post here is a good example of a URE due to media error. >> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1034762.html > > Yep, that the sort of thing I was looking for in the

Re: autoconnect bluetooth mouse?

2015-03-14 Thread jd1008
On 03/14/2015 05:40 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 13:39 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: Just got a logitech bt m557 mouse. Using it on F21 (kde). One annoyance, it does not automatically connect when the machine wakes. To connect, I have to go to the bluetooth icon on my pa

Re: autoconnect bluetooth mouse?

2015-03-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 13:39 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > Just got a logitech bt m557 mouse. Using it on F21 (kde). > > One annoyance, it does not automatically connect when the machine wakes. To > connect, I have to go to the bluetooth icon on my panel (without a mouse) > and select the mouse,

Re: Is SMART really that dumb?

2015-03-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 17:13:15 -0600 Chris Murphy wrote: > The top post here is a good example of a URE due to media error. > http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1034762.html Yep, that the sort of thing I was looking for in the logs, but there are no ata yadda-yadda complaints anywhere, jus

Could someone explain why thunderbird creates so many processes per folder

2015-03-14 Thread jd1008
For example: $ lsof | grep Sent thunderbi 3165 jd 37u REG 8,19 3107745 62260168 /sdb3/home/jd/.thunderbird/jd1008/Mail/pop.googlemail.com/Sent.msf Gecko_IOT 3165 3192 jd 37u REG 8,19 3107745 62260168 /sdb3/home/jd/.thunderbird/jd1008/Mail/p

Re: Is SMART really that dumb?

2015-03-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 16:53:15 -0500 > Roger Heflin wrote: > >> Also usually the errors are found by linux doing a read against it, so >> there should be error messages on the reads in the messages file when >> it happened, that is usually what I

Re: Question about TB

2015-03-14 Thread jd1008
On 03/14/2015 06:22 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2015-03-13 at 19:19 -0400, Doug wrote: On 03/13/2015 02:11 PM, jd1008 wrote: Hi all TB users, I have 2 gmail accounts. One for mailing lists, online transactions, ...etc, and one for family members to send me email to. On the account

Re: Question about TB

2015-03-14 Thread jd1008
On 03/13/2015 01:16 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/13/2015 11:11 AM, jd1008 wrote: On the account used for family, I send emails to someone, and then I check in the Sent folder. I do not see the message I just sent. Go to Edit->Account Settings. Select the account and look at Copies and Folders

Re: Is SMART really that dumb?

2015-03-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > So, SMART reports it has N pending sectors. This must mean > it knows exactly which sectors those are, but nothing in > the SMART interface is willing to tell you what sectors it > is talking about? If there's a definite latent sector error, t

Re: Is SMART really that dumb?

2015-03-14 Thread Roger Heflin
That would imply the disk itself found the errors on one of its scans. You could do a "dd if=/dev/sdx of=/dev/null conv=noerror bs=1M" that should mean the dd will continue on when it hits the error and you will get the list of bad sectors in the messages file. You would have to use fsdebugger o

Re: Is SMART really that dumb?

2015-03-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 16:53:15 -0500 Roger Heflin wrote: > Also usually the errors are found by linux doing a read against it, so > there should be error messages on the reads in the messages file when > it happened, that is usually what I use to determine what sectors are > getting the error. Yea,

Re: Raid vs rsync -

2015-03-14 Thread Martin Cigorraga
TL;DR (at least not the entire thread) If you go with Rsync you may find incron an useful add-on as well as with it you can monitor a variety of events on any given file or directory, like OPEN_READ, CREATE, CLOSE, CLOSE_WRITE, etc - and this way backup your data in real time whenever a condition

Re: Is SMART really that dumb?

2015-03-14 Thread Roger Heflin
I have never found a way to get smart to report what specific sectors is pending. You can do a smartctl -l long against the device and generally it will stop when it hits that sector. Also usually the errors are found by linux doing a read against it, so there should be error messages on the read

Is SMART really that dumb?

2015-03-14 Thread Tom Horsley
So, SMART reports it has N pending sectors. This must mean it knows exactly which sectors those are, but nothing in the SMART interface is willing to tell you what sectors it is talking about? You could maybe correlate them with the filesystem structures and find out what files they might be affec

autoconnect bluetooth mouse?

2015-03-14 Thread Neal Becker
Just got a logitech bt m557 mouse. Using it on F21 (kde). One annoyance, it does not automatically connect when the machine wakes. To connect, I have to go to the bluetooth icon on my panel (without a mouse) and select the mouse, and click 'connect'. Any ideas? -- Those who fail to understa

Re: installing fedora on HEWLETT PACKARD pavilion 500

2015-03-14 Thread Angelo Moreschini
Hi Chris, I followed your suggestion: I tried efibootmgr -v and I got this output: *"efibootmgr: EFI variables are not supported on this system."* thinking that the installation is not good, I found this link: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/91620/arch-linux-grub-install-efi-variables-

Re: Question about TB

2015-03-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2015-03-13 at 19:19 -0400, Doug wrote: > On 03/13/2015 02:11 PM, jd1008 wrote: > > Hi all TB users, > > I have 2 gmail accounts. > > One for mailing lists, online transactions, ...etc, > > and one for family members to send me email to. > > > > On the account used for family, I send emails