On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Fred Smith
wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 09:36:48PM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Fred Smith
>> wrote:
>> > I tried "yum reinstall" for all the kernel bits of the latest (non-
>> > working) kernel, and it said "not available" f
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Jean Jacques wrote:
> which version have you updated to?
OK you keep replying to me, but I'm not the original poster, and
you're not being clear with your question: version of what? I have no
idea what you're referring to. The other thing making this confusing
is
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 09:36:48PM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Fred Smith
> wrote:
> > I tried "yum reinstall" for all the kernel bits of the latest (non-
> > working) kernel, and it said "not available" for all but (I think
> > it was) headers. What does "not ava
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:39:01PM +0800, Jean Jacques wrote:
>what version?
the original posting said: 3.14.27-100
>
>2015-01-22 12:36 GMT+08:00 Chris Murphy <[1]li...@colorremedies.com>:
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Fred Smith
> <[2]fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us> wrot
which version have you updated to?
2015-01-22 12:46 GMT+08:00 Chris Murphy :
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:39 PM, Jean Jacques wrote:
> > what version?
>
> I don't understand your question.
>
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On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:39 PM, Jean Jacques wrote:
> what version?
I don't understand your question.
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what version?
2015-01-22 12:36 GMT+08:00 Chris Murphy :
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Fred Smith
> wrote:
> > I tried "yum reinstall" for all the kernel bits of the latest (non-
> > working) kernel, and it said "not available" for all but (I think
> > it was) headers. What does "not availab
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Fred Smith
wrote:
> I tried "yum reinstall" for all the kernel bits of the latest (non-
> working) kernel, and it said "not available" for all but (I think
> it was) headers. What does "not available" mean here? I mean, it had
> just downloaded for installation a l
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Hmm well it's not the same problem probably if you're still getting a
> hang with nomodeset. It'd be nice to know for sure this is not some
> Btrfs regression though, but the fact that it's hanging the console
> make this difficult to troubles
Maybe this holds some glimmer of hope?
https://forums.kali.org/showthread.php?4936-Disable-sleep-when-laptop-lid-is-closed
On 01/21/2015 05:12 PM, Gilles-Philippe Morin wrote:
> These are the "detailed" system settings. The default GNOME system
> settings do not give any option about lid closur
Hi all!
something went awry during a yum update a little whuile ago. It's
my netbook, still on F19 (yes, I know it's now officially EOL, it
should get an upgrade Real Soon Now, I'm just trying to make-do
for a little while).
So, I did a "yum update", and it found a bazillion packages to update,
On 01/22/15 08:01, CS DBA wrote:
> How do I open ports & allow ssh / scp to a fedora 21 workstation ?
>
> I added port 22 to the public area but no luck
>
>
If you are using a newly installed F21/Gnome system the command "firewall-cmd
--get-default-zone" will probably return "FedoraWorkstation" a
Hi All;
How do I open ports & allow ssh / scp to a fedora 21 workstation ?
I added port 22 to the public area but no luck
thanks in advance
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I was looking at the update notice on the announce list and saw that the
tuned description says " Currently only ethernet
network and ATA harddisk devices are implemented."
As I have a SATA disk and a WiFi connection, is there any benefit from
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On Wed, 2015-01-21 at 10:26 -0700, jd1008 wrote:
> I honestly do not see any reason to make so much noise about it.
> Where are 16 bit OS'es today? Does anyone want to go back to them?
> Not me.
> So, I think it is inevitable that support for 32 bit OS'es will come to
> an end.
Of course it wil
On 21.01.2015 23:05, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>
> On 01/21/2015 05:01 PM, poma wrote:
>> On 21.01.2015 22:36, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>> On 01/21/2015 01:20 PM, poma wrote:
http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/dncp.htm
Maybe it's too complicated to discuss here.
>>> You had so
On 01/21/2015 05:01 PM, poma wrote:
On 21.01.2015 22:36, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 01/21/2015 01:20 PM, poma wrote:
http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/dncp.htm
Maybe it's too complicated to discuss here.
You had some fun, and I am use to people having fun with my malaprops.
In the
On 21.01.2015 22:36, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>
> On 01/21/2015 01:20 PM, poma wrote:
>> http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/dncp.htm
>>
>> Maybe it's too complicated to discuss here.
>
> You had some fun, and I am use to people having fun with my malaprops.
In the context of jokes all peo
On 01/22/15 05:36, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>
> On 01/21/2015 01:20 PM, poma wrote:
>> http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/dncp.htm
>>
>> Maybe it's too complicated to discuss here.
>
> You had some fun, and I am use to people having fun with my malaprops.
>
> But I just came back from a semi
On 01/22/15 03:32, CLOSE Dave wrote:
> Ed Greshko wrote:
>
>> You probably will want to follow this procedure in F21
>> https://access.redhat.com/solutions/1166283
> Thanks. That works perfectly in F20.
>
> So we appear to have confirmed that the default installation is broken
> in SysV versio
On 01/21/2015 01:20 PM, poma wrote:
http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/dncp.htm
Maybe it's too complicated to discuss here.
You had some fun, and I am use to people having fun with my malaprops.
But I just came back from a seminar and took the machine in question out
of suspension a
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
> We do need more info other than "the clone operation failed". I have
> cloned a large number of machines using Clonezilla using virgin drives
> (CentOS, Fedora, Ubuntu, Winblows). Many had the target drives larger
> than the original. I will s
On 01/21/2015 12:22 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Angelo Moreschini
wrote:
Hi,
I already used successfully clonezilla to backup my OS (fedora).
I did this (only for exercise til now) restoring the OS on the original disk
from which I had take the clone.
Now I wan
On 01/21/2015 01:39 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
On 01/21/2015 01:33 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 01/21/2015 10:20 AM, poma wrote:
http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/dncp.htm
Maybe it's too complicated to discuss here.
Really? DECnet phase IV? You want to discuss that here? That is at
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
> Chris Murphy wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
>>> Chris Murphy wrote:
>>>
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
> Nice tip. Unfortunately, btrfs --version says 3.18. I suppose that is
Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
>> Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
Nice tip. Unfortunately, btrfs --version says 3.18. I suppose that is not
sufficient.
>>>
>>> 3.18 is fine. 3.18.1 pulled in sm
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
> Thanks, I installed kernel 3.18.3, and followed your instructions to run btrfs
> check --repair from initramfs.
BTW did it say it fixed stuff? With a healthy fs you still get about
15 lines of stuff, the only real indicator of no problems is
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
> Chris Murphy wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
>>> Nice tip. Unfortunately, btrfs --version says 3.18. I suppose that is not
>>> sufficient.
>>
>> 3.18 is fine. 3.18.1 pulled in small fixes.
>>
>>
>>> I like th
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Angelo Moreschini
wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> I already used successfully clonezilla to backup my OS (fedora).
>
> I did this (only for exercise til now) restoring the OS on the original disk
> from which I had take the clone.
>
> Now I wanted to use my clone to restore fe
Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
>> Nice tip. Unfortunately, btrfs --version says 3.18. I suppose that is not
>> sufficient.
>
> 3.18 is fine. 3.18.1 pulled in small fixes.
>
>
>> I like this procedure, it sounds simple. Any way to fix it? I guess
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
> Nice tip. Unfortunately, btrfs --version says 3.18. I suppose that is not
> sufficient.
3.18 is fine. 3.18.1 pulled in small fixes.
> I like this procedure, it sounds simple. Any way to fix it? I guess the
> btrfs
> was from initramfs,
Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Chris Murphy
> wrote:
>
>> Next you should reboot from Fedora 21 live media, and 'dnf upgrade
>> btrfs-progs' so that you have btrfs-progs 3.18.1, which is stable. And
>> use 'btrfs check --repair' in case there are any missing files, this
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
>> You should do three things: if the fs is still mounted, update your
>> backup; then install kernel 3.18.3 from updates-testing repo; then use
>> btrfs check --repair using btrfs-progs 3.18.
>>
>
> This is on root fs, btrfs check --repair can
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Next you should reboot from Fedora 21 live media, and 'dnf upgrade
> btrfs-progs' so that you have btrfs-progs 3.18.1, which is stable. And
> use 'btrfs check --repair' in case there are any missing files, this
> should find it. After this,
Ed Greshko wrote:
> You probably will want to follow this procedure in F21
> https://access.redhat.com/solutions/1166283
Thanks. That works perfectly in F20.
So we appear to have confirmed that the default installation is broken
in SysV versions (mine are F13). The linked page points to ano
Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Neal Becker wrote:
>
>> Jan 21 11:32:17 nbecker1 kernel: [ 96.851478] WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 1749 at
>> fs/btrfs/delayed-inode.c:1410 btrfs_assert_delayed_root_empty+0x39/0x40
>> [btrfs]
>
> Looks like this:
> http://www.spinics.net/lists/l
On 21.01.2015 20:10, Fernando Lozano wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
>> The proposal is being considered because there really isn't
> anyone
>> testing stuff on i686 machines,
>
> No one tunning atom (32-bit
> only) netbooks?
>
Above is nothing but pure speculation - also false.
> I guess most tests c
Hi,
> The proposal is being considered because there really isn't
anyone
> testing stuff on i686 machines,
No one tunning atom (32-bit
only) netbooks?
I guess most tests could use a 64-bit hardware but
32-bit kernel etc. Few issues would show up only on real 32-bits only
hardware.
But if a
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Neal Becker wrote:
> Jan 21 11:32:17 nbecker1 kernel: [ 96.851478] WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 1749 at
> fs/btrfs/delayed-inode.c:1410 btrfs_assert_delayed_root_empty+0x39/0x40
> [btrfs]
Looks like this:
http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-btrfs/msg40858.html
https://
On 01/21/2015 10:39 AM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
On 01/21/2015 01:33 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 01/21/2015 10:20 AM, poma wrote:
http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/dncp.htm
Maybe it's too complicated to discuss here.
Really? DECnet phase IV? You want to discuss that here? That is at
On 01/21/2015 11:08 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 01/21/2015 06:26 PM, jd1008 wrote:
I honestly do not see any reason to make so much noise about it.
I think I am not shouting loud enough. But I understand free speech is
not welcome here.
False! There are only a few knuckleheads who flare up
On 01/21/2015 01:33 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
> On 01/21/2015 10:20 AM, poma wrote:
>> http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/dncp.htm
>>
>> Maybe it's too complicated to discuss here.
>
> Really? DECnet phase IV? You want to discuss that here? That is at
> least 20 years old and pretty much dou
On 01/21/2015 10:20 AM, poma wrote:
http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/dncp.htm
Maybe it's too complicated to discuss here.
Really? DECnet phase IV? You want to discuss that here? That is at
least 20 years old and pretty much doubt anyone still uses it. I hated
it and I used to manage
On 21.01.2015 19:24, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> The proposal is being considered because there really isn't anyone
> testing stuff on i686 machines, and problems that affect those machines
Please do not speak in the name of other people!
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On 01/21/2015 03:39 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:
Ralf Corsepius wrote:
and ignores the fact the i386 is
a multilibbed/~arched archecture of the x86_64.
Good point, the multilib part of the issue is interesting... and an
important one too.
Not really. The proposal, if it were made and accepted, ne
http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/dncp.htm
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On 21.01.2015 16:58, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 10:22:21 +0100
> poma wrote:
>
>> The same goes for you as for Kevin Fenzi,
>> are you the official representatives of the Red Hat,
>> is this the official Red Hat statement?
>
> I'm not Rahul, but I'll note that he currently does not
On 01/21/2015 06:26 PM, jd1008 wrote:
I honestly do not see any reason to make so much noise about it.
I think I am not shouting loud enough. But I understand free speech is
not welcome here.
Where are 16 bit OS'es today? Does anyone want to go back to them?
Apples and Oranges
Not me.
So,
There is this "thing" called common sense. ;)
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On 21.01.2015 18:26, jd1008 wrote:
>
> On 01/21/2015 03:40 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> On 01/21/2015 10:46 AM, poma wrote:
>>
>>> You know that popular saying,
>>> Open source does not necessarily mean the open mind.
>> I am in vehement disagreement with this and repeatedly expressed it
>> befor
On 01/21/2015 03:40 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 01/21/2015 10:46 AM, poma wrote:
You know that popular saying,
Open source does not necessarily mean the open mind.
I am in vehement disagreement with this and repeatedly expressed it
before: "OpenSource needs open minds".
BTW Ralf, are you
my /var/log/messages is being filled with:
Jan 21 11:32:17 nbecker1 kernel: [ 96.776612] CPU: 0 PID: 577 Comm: auditd
Tainted: PW OE 3.17.8-300.fc21.x86_64
#1
Jan 21 11:32:17 nbecker1 kernel: [ 96.776614] Hardware name: Hewlett-Packard
HP Pavilion dv9500 Notebook PC/30CB, BIO
On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 05:06:54 PM poma wrote:
> First you recommend something that is questionable faster, moreover you can
> not confirm or explain. And it's a total failure to recommend someone a
> product which requires VT-x or AMD-V, and that someone is in the absence of
> this functio
On 21.01.2015 15:52, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 03:25:05 PM poma wrote:
>> Of course when you take marketing seriously when says that something is
>> faster.
>>
>
> They are marketing a good product. There is nothing wrong with that. I don't
> know what's your experien
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 10:22:21 +0100
poma wrote:
> The same goes for you as for Kevin Fenzi,
> are you the official representatives of the Red Hat,
> is this the official Red Hat statement?
I'm not Rahul, but I'll note that he currently does not work for Red
Hat, he was simply providing his take o
I am using ethernet to connect to a firewall I am configuring. My
initial connection did not have any dhcp config info (because I had not
configured the server) like DNS servers and the like. I have since
configed the firewall, but cannot get this information to my system. I
tried:
ifdown
On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 03:25:05 PM poma wrote:
> Of course when you take marketing seriously when says that something is
> faster.
>
They are marketing a good product. There is nothing wrong with that. I don't
know what's your experience been with Android emulator and Genymotion but
Gen
On 01/18/2015 04:58 PM, Pete Stieber wrote:
> I received an answer that worked on the fedora forums.
>
> 1. Edit the file
> /etc/selinux/targeted/modules/active/file_contexts.local and
> comment/fix the wrong contexts.
>
> In my case this meant changing httpd_mediawiki_rw_content_t to
> mediawiki_
On 01/16/2015 03:45 PM, poma wrote:
> On 16.01.2015 20:35, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>> On 01/16/2015 01:57 PM, poma wrote:
>>> On 16.01.2015 19:47, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
On 01/16/2015 07:47 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2015-01-16 at 08:28 +0100, Heinz Diehl wrote:
>> On 16.01
On 21.01.2015 15:16, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 02:40:40 PM poma wrote:
>> What makes it faster than stock emu?
>> http://developer.android.com/tools/devices/emulator.html
>
> I don't know of the technical reasons. Earlier versions of Android emulators
> were seriously
On 21 January 2015 at 16:22, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
> If your system doesn't support hardware visualization then kvm won't be
> able
> to do anything.
>
Just because starting x86 android emulator craches with error 'no /dev/kvm
found'.
>
> Generally, Genymotion [1] is faster than stock Android e
On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 02:40:40 PM poma wrote:
> What makes it faster than stock emu?
> http://developer.android.com/tools/devices/emulator.html
I don't know of the technical reasons. Earlier versions of Android emulators
were seriously bad. The recent versions are good as long as you use
On 21.01.2015 14:22, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
> If your system doesn't support hardware visualization then kvm won't be able
> to do anything.
>
> Generally, Genymotion [1] is faster than stock Android emulator. And it will
> save you configuration headaches. You should give it a try.
>
> [1] ht
On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 01:42:23 PM Hiisi wrote:
> Need some help here installing kvm. I'm following instructions at [1]. Seems
> that my system does not support hardware virtualization.
If your system doesn't support hardware visualization then kvm won't be able
to do anything.
Generally
On 21.01.2015 11:40, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 01/21/2015 10:46 AM, poma wrote:
>
>> You know that popular saying,
>> Open source does not necessarily mean the open mind.
> I am in vehement disagreement with this and repeatedly expressed it
> before: "OpenSource needs open minds".
>
These two
Tim:
>> Likewise. And I'm not keen on having one of the several hundred watt
>> monster room heating PCs, either.
Gordon Messmer:
> I'm not sure what you mean. Modern PCs tend to use a lot less power
> than older ones did. Upgrading almost always means running quieter,
> cooler, and using les
On 01/20/2015 09:36 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:19 PM, Dan Irwin wrote:
>
> Personally, I'm somewhat amused.
>
> So the iptables scripts were broken. We all know that.
>
> Instead of fixing them, let's make a whole new firewalld thing!
>
>
> You misunde
Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> IMO, this is a nonsensical proposal.
>
> The ix86 family definitely is much wider used than any other secondary
> architecture Fedora has been supporting and ignores the fact the i386 is
> a multilibbed/~arched archecture of the x86_64.
Good point, the multilib part of th
On 01/21/2015 10:46 AM, poma wrote:
You know that popular saying,
Open source does not necessarily mean the open mind.
I am in vehement disagreement with this and repeatedly expressed it
before: "OpenSource needs open minds".
BTW Ralf, are you prepared for incoming inevitable Fedora debacle,
On 20.01.2015 18:51, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 01/20/2015 06:19 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
>
>> Is it the introduction of requiring sse2?
>
> Yes, this would definitely be death of Fedora on my PIII and would force
> me to escape to a non-redhat distribution.
>
>
> I would also consider this to be
Hi!
Need some help here installing kvm. I'm following instructions at [1].
Seems that my system does not support hardware virtualization.
$ egrep '^flags.*(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo
Command above reveals nothing. Anyway, I would like to use it for android
x86 emulator only.
All necessary packages are
On 20.01.2015 18:19, Rex Dieter wrote:
> poma wrote:
>
>> On 20.01.2015 03:12, Bill Oliver wrote:
>>>
>>> I recently read an interesting article recently that suggested that
>>> Fedora 23 might be 64-bit only:
>>>
>>
>> Rather read this:
>>
>> Changes/Modernise GCC Flags
>> https://fedoraproject.o
On 21.01.2015 03:41, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Dave Ihnat wrote:
>
>>
>> It may seriously be time for Redhat to consider splitting Fedora into two
>> distros--one tracking RHEL and continuing the role as testbed for RHEL, and
>> the other taking up the role
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