Hi,
I already used successfully clonezilla to backup my OS (fedora).
I did this (only for exercise til now) *restoring the OS on the original
disk from which I had **take** the clone*.
Now I wanted to use my clone to restore fedora on a virgin HD. (for
security reasons, I did not want restore t
On 01/21/15 10:01, CLOSE Dave wrote:
> I'll try F21 soon.
You probably will want to follow this procedure in F21
https://access.redhat.com/solutions/1166283
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On 01/21/15 10:01, CLOSE Dave wrote:
> I have tried it. At least on an earlier Fedora with SysV.
FWIW, the problem you're having with sshd and SysV has to do with how the init
scripts are constructed.
They source /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions which includes the functions
pidfileofproc and killproc
Quoting Doug :
On 01/20/2015 08:28 PM, Kevin Cummings wrote:
On 01/20/2015 07:40 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:
I need to use my notebook keyboard to insert a divide symbol, the kind
with two dots and a horizontal line, it's ascii character 43 decimal. I
According to *my* ASCII table, character 43
On 01/21/2015 01:14 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 01/20/2015 01:43 PM, Temlakos wrote:
But I have one or two 32-bit applications, that need 32-bit libraries. I
would like to know these would still be available
Yes. If the 32 bit platform became a secondary arch, those apps would
still run on t
On 01/20/2015 10:38 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 01/20/2015 10:52 AM, Temlakos wrote:
Does this mean Skype will no longer be available in this platform?
No. There hasn't been a proposal to remove 32 bit support from the 64
bit release. The proposal, which is still hypothetical, would be to
m
On 01/20/2015 08:28 PM, Kevin Cummings wrote:
On 01/20/2015 07:40 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:
I need to use my notebook keyboard to insert a divide symbol, the kind
with two dots and a horizontal line, it's ascii character 43 decimal. I
According to *my* ASCII table, character 43 (decimal number 4
Hi
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Dave Ihnat wrote:
>
> It may seriously be time for Redhat to consider splitting Fedora into two
> distros--one tracking RHEL and continuing the role as testbed for RHEL, and
> the other taking up the role as an enthusiast's distro, and continuing to
> support
On 01/21/15 10:34, CLOSE Dave wrote:
> Ed Greshko wrote:
>
>> Well, I don't "seem" to be telling you. I'm actually showing you.
>> :-) :-)
> Yes, and thank you. But you didn't explicitly mention the version. In my
> original note, I said I'd only tried SysV. Before I make the effort to
> do it on
Hi
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:19 PM, Dan Irwin wrote:
> Personally, I'm somewhat amused.
>
> So the iptables scripts were broken. We all know that.
>
> Instead of fixing them, let's make a whole new firewalld thing!
>
You misunderstood. It is not the scripts that were broken. It is just a
basi
Ed Greshko wrote:
> Well, I don't "seem" to be telling you. I'm actually showing you.
> :-) :-)
Yes, and thank you. But you didn't explicitly mention the version. In my
original note, I said I'd only tried SysV. Before I make the effort to
do it on systemd, I thought it would be worth asking for
Quoting Fred Smith :
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 04:40:11PM -0800, Dave Stevens wrote:
I need to use my notebook keyboard to insert a divide symbol, the
kind with two dots and a horizontal line, it's ascii character 43
decimal. I installed gedit-plugins and character table is enabled in
preferences
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 04:40:11PM -0800, Dave Stevens wrote:
> I need to use my notebook keyboard to insert a divide symbol, the
> kind with two dots and a horizontal line, it's ascii character 43
> decimal. I installed gedit-plugins and character table is enabled in
> preferences but I don't see
On 01/21/15 10:01, CLOSE Dave wrote:
> Ed Greshko wrote:
>
>>> But if you read the SSHD man page and the /etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd script,
>>> you'll find that the PID is always recorded at /var/run/sshd.pid and the
>>> PidFile variable is only used for reporting status.
>> And if you tried it?
>>
>> [
Ed Greshko wrote:
>> But if you read the SSHD man page and the /etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd script,
>> you'll find that the PID is always recorded at /var/run/sshd.pid and the
>> PidFile variable is only used for reporting status.
> And if you tried it?
>
> [root@meimei run]# grep pid /etc/ssh/sshd_conf
On 01/21/15 09:06, CLOSE Dave wrote:
> Ian Pilcher and others wrote:
>
>> There is a "PidFile" option in the config file that can be used to
>> control this.
> But if you read the SSHD man page and the /etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd script,
> you'll find that the PID is always recorded at /var/run/sshd.pid
Quoting Kevin Cummings :
On 01/20/2015 07:40 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:
I need to use my notebook keyboard to insert a divide symbol, the kind
with two dots and a horizontal line, it's ascii character 43 decimal. I
According to *my* ASCII table, character 43 (decimal number 43) is a '+'
sign
On 01/20/2015 07:40 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:
> I need to use my notebook keyboard to insert a divide symbol, the kind
> with two dots and a horizontal line, it's ascii character 43 decimal. I
According to *my* ASCII table, character 43 (decimal number 43) is a '+'
sign
Are you asking about the
On 01/20/2015 06:12 PM, EGO-II.1 wrote:
On 01/20/2015 07:15 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 01/20/2015 01:53 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
On 01/20/2015 03:26 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
The 64-bit platform supports 32-bit wine.
You cannot run Win32 PE binaries with 64-bit wine. Wine does not
Personally, I'm somewhat amused.
So the iptables scripts were broken. We all know that.
Instead of fixing them, let's make a whole new firewalld thing!
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 7:56 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 01/19/15 05:32, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> > On 01/18/2015 04:44 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 01/20/2015 07:15 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 01/20/2015 01:53 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
On 01/20/2015 03:26 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
The 64-bit platform supports 32-bit wine.
You cannot run Win32 PE binaries with 64-bit wine. Wine does not emulate
( ;) ) arches.
I know that. 32-
Ian Pilcher and others wrote:
> There is a "PidFile" option in the config file that can be used to
> control this.
But if you read the SSHD man page and the /etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd script,
you'll find that the PID is always recorded at /var/run/sshd.pid and the
PidFile variable is only used for r
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 04:32:40PM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote:
> --
> - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com -
> - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 -
> -
I need to use my notebook keyboard to insert a divide symbol, the kind
with two dots and a horizontal line, it's ascii character 43 decimal.
I installed gedit-plugins and character table is enabled in
preferences but I don't see anywhere in the gedit screen to get into
the table to select c
On 01/20/2015 06:20 PM, CLOSE Dave wrote:
> I'm finding that, although the SSH daemon records its PID in a file,
> that file is not configurable. Consequently, it seems that stopping one
> of the daemons causes the other to also stop. Same for starting one.
There is a "PidFile" option in the con
On 01/21/15 08:20, CLOSE Dave wrote:
> I'm finding that, although the SSH daemon records its PID in a file,
> that file is not configurable. Consequently, it seems that stopping one
> of the daemons causes the other to also stop. Same for starting one.
Look in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and notice
On 01/20/2015 04:20 PM, CLOSE Dave wrote:
I'd like to run two SSH daemons on the same machine. They will listen on
different ports and have other differences in their configuration. I
want these two daemons to be independent of each other: either can run
while the other is stopped. I need to do t
I'd like to run two SSH daemons on the same machine. They will listen on
different ports and have other differences in their configuration. I
want these two daemons to be independent of each other: either can run
while the other is stopped. I need to do this for recent (systemd)
machines and fo
On 01/20/2015 01:53 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
On 01/20/2015 03:26 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
The 64-bit platform supports 32-bit wine.
You cannot run Win32 PE binaries with 64-bit wine. Wine does not emulate
( ;) ) arches.
I know that. 32-bit Wine is available on the 64-bit Fedora
plat
On 01/20/2015 01:43 PM, Temlakos wrote:
But I have one or two 32-bit applications, that need 32-bit libraries. I
would like to know these would still be available
Yes. If the 32 bit platform became a secondary arch, those apps would
still run on the 64 bit release, just like they do now. The
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 01:19:56PM -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> I'm not sure what you mean. Modern PCs tend to use a lot less power
> than older ones did. Upgrading almost always means running quieter,
> cooler, and using less power.
Yes, and no. Towers/desktops in use with SMBs, maybe. The
On 01/20/2015 03:26 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
The 64-bit platform supports 32-bit wine.
You cannot run Win32 PE binaries with 64-bit wine. Wine does not emulate ( ;) )
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On 01/20/2015 04:38 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 01/20/2015 10:52 AM, Temlakos wrote:
Does this mean Skype will no longer be available in this platform?
No. There hasn't been a proposal to remove 32 bit support from the 64
bit release. The proposal, which is still hypothetical, would be to
On 01/20/2015 10:52 AM, Temlakos wrote:
Does this mean Skype will no longer be available in this platform?
No. There hasn't been a proposal to remove 32 bit support from the 64
bit release. The proposal, which is still hypothetical, would be to
make the 32 bit platform (the release with a 3
On 01/19/2015 10:50 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
To further back up Kevin a 32-bit environment must stay around, if not
for Linux apps, but for Windows apps.
The 64-bit platform supports 32-bit wine.
And for that matter, the person proposing the change isn't proposing
that no 32-bit platfo
On 01/20/2015 01:42 AM, Tim wrote:
Likewise. And I'm not keen on having one of the several hundred watt
monster room heating PCs, either.
I'm not sure what you mean. Modern PCs tend to use a lot less power
than older ones did. Upgrading almost always means running quieter,
cooler, and usin
Once upon a time, CS DBA said:
> When I activate the physical internet (enp0s25) I get an address of
> 192.168.0.100
> this I cannot connect to any other servers due to the subnet difference.
Have you checked your network to make sure you don't have another
(rogue) DHCP server? Has somebody plug
On 1/20/15 1:06 PM, CS DBA wrote:
Hi All;
I have a laptop with a new Fedora 21 install, Our firewall is set to
serve up (DHCP) addresses from 192.168.2.100 - 192.168.2.250
When I activate the physical internet (enp0s25) I get an address of
192.168.0.100
this I cannot connect to any other s
Hi All;
I have a laptop with a new Fedora 21 install, Our firewall is set to
serve up (DHCP) addresses from 192.168.2.100 - 192.168.2.250
When I activate the physical internet (enp0s25) I get an address of
192.168.0.100
this I cannot connect to any other servers due to the subnet difference.
On 01/20/2015 11:33 AM, Alex Regan wrote:
Hi,
I have a fedora21 box and periodically the display stops responding. The
display on the monitor is blank, and trying to wake it again with the
mouse or keyboard is not successful.
I can VNC into the system, and while the screensaver is on with the
Hi,
On 01/20/2015 01:34 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 18:00:29 -0500, Alex Regan wrote:
Hi,
I have a fedora21 workstation install with gnome3, and trying to replace
the desktop with Cinnamon.
Running 'yum groupinstall "Cinnamon Desktop"' results in the following
# yum group
Hi,
I have a fedora21 box and periodically the display stops responding. The
display on the monitor is blank, and trying to wake it again with the
mouse or keyboard is not successful.
I can VNC into the system, and while the screensaver is on with the
clock in the center, the clock does continu
On 01/20/2015 09:56 AM, Alex Regan wrote:
Hi,
I have a fedora21 box and periodically the display stops responding. The
display on the monitor is blank, and trying to wake it again with the
mouse or keyboard is not successful.
I can VNC into the system, and while the screensaver is on with the
cl
On 01/20/2015 10:50 AM, poma wrote:
On 20.01.2015 16:42, poma wrote:
On 20.01.2015 03:12, Bill Oliver wrote:
I recently read an interesting article recently that suggested that
Fedora 23 might be 64-bit only:
Rather read this:
Changes/Modernise GCC Flags
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Change
On 01/20/2015 06:48 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
Bill Oliver wrote:
I recently read an interesting article recently that suggested that
Fedora 23 might be 64-bit only:
See:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-23-64-bit-Proposal
Thread summary is incorrect (or at least mislea
Hi,
I have a fedora21 box and periodically the display stops responding. The
display on the monitor is blank, and trying to wake it again with the
mouse or keyboard is not successful.
I can VNC into the system, and while the screensaver is on with the
clock in the center, the clock does conti
On 01/20/2015 06:19 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
Is it the introduction of requiring sse2?
Yes, this would definitely be death of Fedora on my PIII and would force
me to escape to a non-redhat distribution.
I would also consider this to be an unfriendly act against those users,
who are keeping s
Bill Oliver wrote:
>
> I recently read an interesting article recently that suggested that
> Fedora 23 might be 64-bit only:
>
> See:
>
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-23-64-bit-Proposal
Thread summary is incorrect (or at least misleading).
The proposal (so far) is
Jan 18 13:27:49 localhost
org.mate.panel.applet.NotificationAreaAppletFactory:
notification-area-applet: Fatal IO error
11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.
Jan 19 15:34:39 localhost org.freedesktop.Notifications:
mate-notification-daemon: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporari
poma wrote:
> On 20.01.2015 03:12, Bill Oliver wrote:
>>
>> I recently read an interesting article recently that suggested that
>> Fedora 23 might be 64-bit only:
>>
>
> Rather read this:
>
> Changes/Modernise GCC Flags
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Modernise_GCC_Flags
>
> This *is
On 15-01-19 23:00:27, Robin Laing wrote:
...
>> I decided to
>> check my machine with rpm -Va > rpm_verify.txt
...
> I do understand the configure and data files but when lib files are
> all showing that issue as below.
>
> S.?../usr/lib64/libgtk-3.so.0.1400.6
> S.?../usr/lib64/l
Once upon a time, Dave Ihnat said:
> Frankly, simply dropping 32-bit support would be one of the more stu--er,
> ill-considered--moves Redhat could make.
So, since nobody is proposing that, I guess it is good?
This thread started with a Phoronix "summary" of a blog post, not any
actual proposal.
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:22:42AM -0500, Derrik Walker v2.0 wrote:
> If they dropped support for that [Pidora], I'd be more than a little annoyed.
Frankly, simply dropping 32-bit support would be one of the more stu--er,
ill-considered--moves Redhat could make.
Yes, Fedora is the test-bed, as yo
On 1/20/15 11:07, Ian Malone wrote:
So far as I know raspberry pi is also 32bit ARM. While Pidora is a
remix rather than official Fedora dropping that would be similarly
getting rid of a chunk of users. There has been some discussion on the
dev list about 32 bit support in relation to changes t
On Tuesday 20 January 2015 16:20:26 poma wrote:
> On 20.01.2015 15:46, Andrew R Paterson wrote:
> > On Tuesday 20 January 2015 14:31:09 Andrew R Paterson wrote:
> >> On Tuesday 20 January 2015 15:10:15 poma wrote:
> >>> On 20.01.2015 14:44, Andrew R Paterson wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 January 2015
On 20 January 2015 at 15:53, poma wrote:
> On 20.01.2015 03:24, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 02:12:23 + (UTC)
>> Bill Oliver wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I recently read an interesting article recently that suggested that
>>> Fedora 23 might be 64-bit only:
>>>
>>> See:
>>>
>>> http://www.p
On 20.01.2015 03:24, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 02:12:23 + (UTC)
> Bill Oliver wrote:
>
>>
>> I recently read an interesting article recently that suggested that
>> Fedora 23 might be 64-bit only:
>>
>> See:
>>
>> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-23-64-b
On 20.01.2015 16:42, poma wrote:
> On 20.01.2015 03:12, Bill Oliver wrote:
>>
>> I recently read an interesting article recently that suggested that
>> Fedora 23 might be 64-bit only:
>>
>
> Rather read this:
>
> Changes/Modernise GCC Flags
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Modernise_GCC_F
On 20.01.2015 03:12, Bill Oliver wrote:
>
> I recently read an interesting article recently that suggested that
> Fedora 23 might be 64-bit only:
>
Rather read this:
Changes/Modernise GCC Flags
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Modernise_GCC_Flags
This *is* practically 32-bit platform ret
On 20.01.2015 15:46, Andrew R Paterson wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 January 2015 14:31:09 Andrew R Paterson wrote:
>> On Tuesday 20 January 2015 15:10:15 poma wrote:
>>> On 20.01.2015 14:44, Andrew R Paterson wrote:
On Tuesday 20 January 2015 14:31:32 poma wrote:
> On 20.01.2015 12:52, Andrew R
On Tuesday 20 January 2015 14:31:09 Andrew R Paterson wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 January 2015 15:10:15 poma wrote:
> > On 20.01.2015 14:44, Andrew R Paterson wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 20 January 2015 14:31:32 poma wrote:
> > >> On 20.01.2015 12:52, Andrew R Paterson wrote:
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>> I am runnin
On Tuesday 20 January 2015 15:10:15 poma wrote:
> On 20.01.2015 14:44, Andrew R Paterson wrote:
> > On Tuesday 20 January 2015 14:31:32 poma wrote:
> >> On 20.01.2015 12:52, Andrew R Paterson wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> I am running fedora 20 X86_64
> >>>
> >>> I have an Intel Processor:
> >>> Intel(R)
On 20.01.2015 14:44, Andrew R Paterson wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 January 2015 14:31:32 poma wrote:
>> On 20.01.2015 12:52, Andrew R Paterson wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I am running fedora 20 X86_64
>>>
>>> I have an Intel Processor:
>>> Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6700 @ 2.66GHz.
>>>
>>> I have an AMD radeon
On Tuesday 20 January 2015 14:31:32 poma wrote:
> On 20.01.2015 12:52, Andrew R Paterson wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I am running fedora 20 X86_64
> >
> > I have an Intel Processor:
> > Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6700 @ 2.66GHz.
> >
> > I have an AMD radeon based GPU card :
> > Advanced Micro Devices, I
On 20.01.2015 12:52, Andrew R Paterson wrote:
> Hi,
> I am running fedora 20 X86_64
>
> I have an Intel Processor:
> Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6700 @ 2.66GHz.
>
> I have an AMD radeon based GPU card :
> Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV535 [Radeon X1650 PRO] (Secondary)
> (rev 9e)
>
>
Hi,
I am running fedora 20 X86_64
I have an Intel Processor:
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6700 @ 2.66GHz.
I have an AMD radeon based GPU card :
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV535 [Radeon X1650 PRO] (Secondary)
(rev 9e)
I have two monitors :
ACER Technolgies – on DVI-0 (1920x1080)
Views
Tue, 20 Jan 2015 11:16:39 +0100
Who has measured speed difference 64 vs 32 when reading example New
York Times? Any notable difference? :D :D
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On 20.01.2015 04:40, Fred Smith wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 05:41:43PM -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 09:46:20PM +0100, poma wrote:
>>> On 19.01.2015 21:04, Fred Smith wrote:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 08:20:33PM +0100, poma wrote:
> On 19.01.2015 19:41, Rick Stevens
On 01/20/2015 10:56 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On Jan 20 20:12, Tim wrote:
On Mon, 2015-01-19 at 22:26 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
I still have refused to thrown away my old laptops and desktops which
are fine otherwise and do their assigned tasks.
Likewise. And I'm not keen on having one o
On Jan 20 20:12, Tim wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-01-19 at 22:26 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > I still have refused to thrown away my old laptops and desktops which
> > are fine otherwise and do their assigned tasks.
>
> Likewise. And I'm not keen on having one of the several hundred watt
> monster r
On 01/20/2015 10:23 AM, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 09:04:32 AM Ralf Corsepius wrote:
I do not agree with your statement, but believe this to be largely a
matter of _will_.
You may have unlimited will but there will only be 24 hours in a day.
Correct. but supporting th
On Mon, 2015-01-19 at 22:26 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> I still have refused to thrown away my old laptops and desktops which
> are fine otherwise and do their assigned tasks.
Likewise. And I'm not keen on having one of the several hundred watt
monster room heating PCs, either.
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On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 09:04:32 AM Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> I do not agree with your statement, but believe this to be largely a
> matter of _will_.
You may have unlimited will but there will only be 24 hours in a day.
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On 01/20/2015 03:24 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 02:12:23 + (UTC)
Bill Oliver wrote:
It's not a big deal to me -- all of my boxes are fairly modern.
However, I thought one of the big selling points of linux in general
is that you could run it on just about anything, includin
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