Hi Chris
I can not tell you from where comes the "grub prompt", because it came, to
me, by chance.
But if I type "help", then comes a long list of commands, including 'l' ...
However, I can not nor to print this list and even I cannot read it,
because I can not stop the scroll of the screen.
===
On 12/01/2014 05:17 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Then there was good old 'chkconfig' that produced a nice tablular report
of services that can be controlled. I have yet to find anything close
to this with systemd.
systemctl list-unit-files
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On Mon, 2014-12-01 at 20:14 -0600, Dave Ihnat wrote:
> Just to point out how explosive the systemd issue is in the Linux
> community, note that Debian has been forked just beause of this:
>
> https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20141127.212941.f55acc3a.en.html
>
Thanks for the link, not all
Hi
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote:
> Just to point out how explosive the systemd issue is in the Linux
> community, note that Debian has been forked just beause of this:
>
> https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20141127.212941.f55acc3a.en.html
>
> Yes, I know, this isn't Fed
Just to point out how explosive the systemd issue is in the Linux
community, note that Debian has been forked just beause of this:
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20141127.212941.f55acc3a.en.html
Yes, I know, this isn't Fedora. But if it's that controversial that an
enire distro will spl
Hi
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote:
>
> That is intensely needed. I think either new material explaining exactly
> why systemd is needed, and good, is critical. If it already exists,
> collected pointers are just as good (if not better)
There are dozens of references about h
On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 08:45:28PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Well, it was originally meant to be default in Fedora 14 and there were
> many discussions about it. it is been years since that point. Perhaps
> people didn't pay attention to it and didn't realize it but it wasn't snuck
> in when
Hi
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote:
>
> I agree, but I will point out that incorporating systemd is an...extremely
> controversial...decision. And, the entire arena seems to be fraught with
> extreme opinions. Couple that with the fact that many here seem not to
> have known i
HI
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>And the list is hugh compared to what services are really up to user
control. I mean listed items like:
Yes that list is larger because systemd does allow you to control more than
sysvinit does directly. Try it out
> Oh, and that
On 12/01/2014 08:23 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
HI
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Perhaps at some point we will get better tools for using systemd.
Thanks for bringing in something useful to the discussion that I can
address:
I mean compare:
systemctl
On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 08:19:47PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Sure. I wasn't referring to your post. Your effort is appreciated.
Ah; thank you. I really am tired of drama, and try not to contribute.
> I don't disagree with all that. I do disagree that the current approach
> taken in the b
HI
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> Perhaps at some point we will get better tools for using systemd.
Thanks for bringing in something useful to the discussion that I can
address:
I mean compare:
>
> systemctl restart sshd.service
>
> with
>
> service sshd restart
>
>
Hi
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote:
>
> > Ranting about ...
>
> Excuse me; I worked very hard to *not* rant.
Sure. I wasn't referring to your post. Your effort is appreciated.
> It intended to be, and I
> believe was, a reasoned and rational attempt to explain why someone
On 12/01/2014 07:23 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote:
On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 07:00:39PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I would suggest that the thread is off the rails long time back and not
enforcing the list guidelines and keeping the list on topic leads to us,
unable to point our own users to the list fo
On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 07:55:51PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Good thing nobody did that then, right?
Well, that's good.
> With all due respect, you can't argue against your own made up quote.
(Hands up), no arguing.
> Ranting about ...
Excuse me; I worked very hard to *not* rant. It inte
Hi
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 7:23 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote:
> Just telling them to "shut up, out of scope" seems a
> bad idea.
Good thing nobody did that then, right? With all due respect, you can't
argue against your own made up quote. As to the question of response from
Red Hat, in case you hav
On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 07:00:39PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> I would suggest that the thread is off the rails long time back and not
> enforcing the list guidelines and keeping the list on topic leads to us,
> unable to point our own users to the list for help because they have to
> wade throu
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> If the thread goes off the rails and outside of the scope of
> "community assistance, encouragement, and advice" — not to mention the
> Friends foundation — that's a different story.
>
I would suggest that the thread is off the rails long
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Angelo Moreschini
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I tried Clonezilla.
>> I made an image-backup of the disk where Fedora is installed, and after I
>> restored, on the same disk, the image that I backuped .
>> Actually, w
On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 04:32:49PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > I am keen on discussing how new features in systemd (or any other
> > packages used by Fedora for that matter) will affect the users of
> > Fedora. The best place for that is this users list.
> By that account why would rawhide or
Hi
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
> I am keen on discussing how new features in systemd (or any other packages
> used by Fedora for that matter) will affect the users of Fedora. The best
> place for that is this users list.
By that account why would rawhide or test
On 12/01/14 22:13, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
In a similar way, development branches of systemd has its own mailing
list for discussing such functionality called systemd-devel list. Use
that list if you are so keen on discussing development branches of systemd.
I am keen on discussing how new feat
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Angelo Moreschini
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I tried Clonezilla.
> I made an image-backup of the disk where Fedora is installed, and after I
> restored, on the same disk, the image that I backuped .
> Actually, when I boot the disk where there is the restored image,at the
>
Hi
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
> As systemd is (a huge) part of Fedora, and what we discuss is a new
> feature in systemd, it will, eventually,
That is by no means a good assumption but even if you take that assumption
as a given, it is not a good justification. T
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On 12/01/14 21:47, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I will limit my answer to one point to keep it brief. Despite your
insistence, development features that are part of upstream project but
not in any Fedora release *cannot* affect Fedora users by definition
Hence they are offtopic for this list. If you
Hi
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
>
> The issue being discussed in this thread has nothing to do with test
> releases and has because of that nothing to do on the test list. It has
> nothing to do with the development releases (rawhide) and has because of
> that nothing
On 12/01/14 17:27, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
There are several
different components which haven't been adopted nor even proposed
because they are simply not yet ready or not general purpose enough to
be used by default.
Well, if they are not yet ready or not general purpose enough to be used
by de
On 12/01/2014 11:09 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Centos6 port to arm.
http://www.redsleeve.org/
Thank you; live and learn.
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On 12/01/2014 12:47 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 12/01/2014 05:34 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
So I am working on building a replacement for this server. The system
will be a Cubieboard2 running either Redsleeve6 or Fedora21. Would have
been nice to have Centos7 as an option, but still no progress on
On 12/01/2014 05:34 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
So I am working on building a replacement for this server. The system
will be a Cubieboard2 running either Redsleeve6 or Fedora21. Would have
been nice to have Centos7 as an option, but still no progress on the C7
arm beta.
I'm not familiar with
Hi,
I tried Clonezilla.
I made an image-backup of the disk where Fedora is installed, and after I
restored, on the same disk, the image that I backuped .
Actually, when I boot the disk where there is the restored image,at the
begin I get the prompt of the GRUB .
I know that I didn't use Clonezi
Hi
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
> My question was "What part(s) of the systemd suite has not been adopted".
> Note the not part.
Yes. I understood that fine. I was pointing out which parts have been
adopted so you can count the rest as not adopted. There are se
On 12/01/14 15:50, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
What part(s) of the systemd suite has not been adopted by Fedora so
far? What says that this "component" will not be adopted by fedora?
Look up feature pages to understand which component
Hi
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>
> It's possible that your change in DE was responsible. I don't use Gnome,
> but by all reports it's a resource hog, and Xfce is much more light weight,
> and that might make the difference.
It is just a speedup in yumex itself.
Rahul
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On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
> What part(s) of the systemd suite has not been adopted by Fedora so far?
> What says that this "component" will not be adopted by fedora?
Look up feature pages to understand which components have been adopted.
https://fedoraproje
On 12/01/2014 12:08 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 12/01/2014 03:12 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
/dev/sdc: Unknown USB bridge [0x059f:0x1053 (0x006)]
googling for "usb id 0x059f:0x1053" points to
http://www.smartmontools.org/wiki/Supported_USB-Devices
which indicates
LaCie Porsche design Deskt
Dottore are you saying system wide settings doesn't apply to GNOME?
Not sure. Is it normal for locale and localectl to report different
values for LC_TIME?
[mjc@xena ~]$ localectl
System Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_DK.UTF-8
VC Keymap: us
X11 Layout:
On 12/01/14 02:31, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 11/18/14 04:20, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
user mailing list of a distribution which doesn't even use the
component
at all yet.
Well, how long do you think it
Thanks to all of you for responses.
Now I am able to do the required task using "grubby"
Thanks
Santosh
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