Re: Dual boot multiple fedora verions

2014-11-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 18:52:51 + (UTC) Andy Campbell wrote: > Is there an elegant way to install two versions of Fedora at the same > time ? I always use a "stand alone" grub2 that boots from the MBR and has "configfile" entries to boot the different fedora versions I have installed in separat

Re: Yum Repairs?

2014-11-23 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 11-23-14 21:09:36 Heinz Diehl wrote: > AFAIK, CTRL+C is nothing > else than a SIGHUP, SIGINT > so yum should have terminated > correctly. Yes. -- Garry T. Williams -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraprojec

Re: Dual boot multiple fedora verions

2014-11-23 Thread poma
On 23.11.2014 22:05, poma wrote: > On 23.11.2014 21:57, poma wrote: >> On 23.11.2014 21:47, Chris Murphy wrote: >>> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 1:40 PM, poma wrote: >>> Sure, shared single /boot with a extlinux/extlinux.conf >>> >>> That's a good idea also. Single /boot means one grub.cfg or

Re: Dual boot multiple fedora verions

2014-11-23 Thread poma
On 23.11.2014 21:57, poma wrote: > On 23.11.2014 21:47, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 1:40 PM, poma wrote: >> >>> Sure, >>> shared single /boot with a extlinux/extlinux.conf >> >> That's a good idea also. Single /boot means one grub.cfg or >> extlinux.conf. And the kernels each ha

Re: Dual boot multiple fedora verions

2014-11-23 Thread poma
On 23.11.2014 21:47, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 1:40 PM, poma wrote: > >> Sure, >> shared single /boot with a extlinux/extlinux.conf > > That's a good idea also. Single /boot means one grub.cfg or > extlinux.conf. And the kernels each have distinct naming conventions > between

Re: Dual boot multiple fedora verions

2014-11-23 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 1:40 PM, poma wrote: > Sure, > shared single /boot with a extlinux/extlinux.conf That's a good idea also. Single /boot means one grub.cfg or extlinux.conf. And the kernels each have distinct naming conventions between distro versions so no conflicts there. Grubby will upd

Re: Dual boot multiple fedora verions

2014-11-23 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Andy Campbell wrote: > Is there an elegant way to install two versions of Fedora at the same > time ? Not automatically. > p1 boot1 ( F19) > p2 boot2 ( F20) What you end up with in this case, is broken F19 right now because in the F20 install environment, t

Re: Dual boot multiple fedora verions

2014-11-23 Thread poma
On 23.11.2014 19:52, Andy Campbell wrote: > Is there an elegant way to install two versions of Fedora at the same > time ? > > I like to keep the existing version running, while I test/setup new > version, then swap when I'm happy everything is running ok. Previously > I've done with a boot lo

Re: Yum Repairs?

2014-11-23 Thread poma
On 23.11.2014 21:02, Hunter Jozwiak wrote: > Hi guys. I accidentally pressed ctrl+C during the transaction check on > a yum update. Is there a command to rerun the command so that whatever > I stopped can be done again, and hopefully prevent breakage? > Thanks, > Hunter > man 8 yum-complete-trans

Re: XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 23.11.2014, Joe Zeff wrote: > Why shouldn't people like me who know what they need be able to get > it without having to go on-line during the installation to get things? Yes, I agree. This is why I asked. On top of that, it's a big advantage for people with slow internet connections to be a

Re: Yum Repairs?

2014-11-23 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 23.11.2014, Hunter Jozwiak wrote: > Is there a command to rerun the command so that whatever > I stopped can be done again, and hopefully prevent breakage? Just re-run "yum update", this should do it. AFAIK, CTRL+C is nothing else than a SIGHUP, so yum should have terminated correctly. Otherw

Re: XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/23/2014 11:55 AM, bitlord wrote: If you want other desktop you have spins [1], as always, and it was and still is preferred method of installing desktop systems. I've always downloaded the full DVD, customized the installation, and ended up with exactly what I want, not what some dev who

Yum Repairs?

2014-11-23 Thread Hunter Jozwiak
Hi guys. I accidentally pressed ctrl+C during the transaction check on a yum update. Is there a command to rerun the command so that whatever I stopped can be done again, and hopefully prevent breakage? Thanks, Hunter -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change sub

Re: XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 23.11.2014, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Workstation does not have the Xfce packages on the media. Thanks, Kevin. That was what I wanted to know. > You can of course install Workstation, then 'yum groupinstall > xfce-desktop'. Hmm, so I have to install without a desktop environment first, to add

Re: XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread bitlord
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:48:03 -0800 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/23/2014 11:32 AM, poma wrote: > > Alice in Wonderland, I talk about the needs of others, not about > > what I can, pour moi. Throwing DVD is very cheap move by Fedora > > folks. > > In this I agree with you. If there's room on the DVD f

Re: XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/23/2014 11:32 AM, poma wrote: Alice in Wonderland, I talk about the needs of others, not about what I can, pour moi. Throwing DVD is very cheap move by Fedora folks. In this I agree with you. If there's room on the DVD for Gnome, KDE, Xfce and possibly other Desktop Environments, they

Re: XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread poma
On 23.11.2014 19:50, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 19:47:08 +0100 > poma wrote: > >> On 23.11.2014 18:48, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >>> On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:33:29 +0100 >>> Heinz Diehl wrote: >>> Hi, up to F20, I used the respective 4 GB full DVD image to install Fedora

Dual boot multiple fedora verions

2014-11-23 Thread Andy Campbell
Is there an elegant way to install two versions of Fedora at the same time ? I like to keep the existing version running, while I test/setup new version, then swap when I'm happy everything is running ok. Previously I've done with a boot loader like Air-Boot ( http://sourceforge.net/ projects

Re: XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 19:47:08 +0100 poma wrote: > On 23.11.2014 18:48, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:33:29 +0100 > > Heinz Diehl wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> up to F20, I used the respective 4 GB full DVD image to install > >> Fedora, which also contained the XFCE desktop. Now,

Re: debugging sluggish CPU frequency transitions

2014-11-23 Thread Timothy Redmond
However sometimes the computer takes a very long time (20 seconds to -- I think -- 15 minutes or more) to react to a change in the load. I have run commands like "stress --cpu 1" or "stress --cpu 8" and watched i7z. When the governor is powersave it may stay at 800MHz and when the governor

Re: XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread poma
On 23.11.2014 18:48, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:33:29 +0100 > Heinz Diehl wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> up to F20, I used the respective 4 GB full DVD image to install >> Fedora, which also contained the XFCE desktop. Now, with F21, there's >> a desktop and a server edition, and it seems

Re: XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:33:29 +0100 Heinz Diehl wrote: > Hi, > > up to F20, I used the respective 4 GB full DVD image to install > Fedora, which also contained the XFCE desktop. Now, with F21, there's > a desktop and a server edition, and it seems the full DVD is missing. Right. There is no mish

Re: XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread poma
On 23.11.2014 12:16, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/23/14 18:33, Heinz Diehl wrote: >> Hi, >> >> up to F20, I used the respective 4 GB full DVD image to install >> Fedora, which also contained the XFCE desktop. Now, with F21, there's >> a desktop and a server edition, and it seems the full DVD is missin

Re: XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/23/14 18:33, Heinz Diehl wrote: > Hi, > > up to F20, I used the respective 4 GB full DVD image to install > Fedora, which also contained the XFCE desktop. Now, with F21, there's > a desktop and a server edition, and it seems the full DVD is missing. > > Does the desktop edition also contain t

XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread Heinz Diehl
Hi, up to F20, I used the respective 4 GB full DVD image to install Fedora, which also contained the XFCE desktop. Now, with F21, there's a desktop and a server edition, and it seems the full DVD is missing. Does the desktop edition also contain the XFCE desktop, or do I have to use any XFCE spin